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04-20-2016 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by morphingbuildups
Hey, there, as we know Betonline steals focus, so it messes with SaT, on the BOL forum a poster said he had an old AHK scrip I have been using for years that should allow for note taking without focus stealing. So I wondered if this would mean anything for circumventing the focus stealing problem problem in SaT: He posted the code in the BOL 2+2 forum.
I highly doubt he has prevented focus stealing completely. But I'd be happy to take a look at the script to investigate. Do you have a link?

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I found it:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2710

Its a clever trick, but it doesn't prevent focus stealing. What that script does is, it checks if focus was ALREADY stolen, and if so, then it will re-focus the original window and then send the keystrokes ("original window" meaning the window that your mouse is over, which, assuming you clicked on the betbox/chatbox, and didn't move your mouse, then your mouse is over the table you want to type in).

That script overrides all the normal keys in order to do its checks, so it might conflict with other external hotkey programs (such as SaT) and it would also work in non-poker table windows. So if you were chatting in skype, and moved your mouse over a web browser, but didn't click the browser, you would still expect keystrokes to go to the skype chat, but with that script, the keystrokes would go to the browser

Last edited by greg nice; 04-20-2016 at 04:43 PM.
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04-20-2016 , 07:44 PM
can i choose my own sizings in stack and tile for the tables ?
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04-20-2016 , 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecastyles
can i choose my own sizings in stack and tile for the tables ?
Your grid slots size can be whatever you want. If you want a different size than you originally chose during the initial setup, you can simply create a new layout with the menu item File->New Layout, and then it will ask you what size you want for your grid slots. All grid slots will be that same size.
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04-24-2016 , 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
Not automatically unfortunately. You'd have to manually select File->Open Layout. I think this has been requested before, I just don't know of a good way to do it. I will think about it.
Hi Greg, I remember I suggested this thing long time ago but never gave my ideas.

Had some free time and thought about it.
Now You can make lot of different layout options and SaT have table counter so it detects how many tables You have open so I think my idea should not require a lot of development. Not sure tho, as I have no idea about programming



What about something like this?

Basically on left side somewhere in options You need to chose table count and on right side You have your layouts available and You can choose which layout You want for how many tables are open.

Also 1 idea if You implement something like this is to have two options how SaT will change tables.
Automatically - You just check that checkbox.
Manually - have some hotkey like "Check table count and layout"

I added this as maybe You are in some important hands in 3-4 tables and new table pops up and You do not want for SaT to change layout in middle of those hands as it can take 4-5 seconds to change layout and rearranges tables. So You just finish your hands and and press that hotkey for SaT to check if current layout is correct for table count.


What do You and others think about this?
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04-24-2016 , 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Steamy Kangaroo
Hi Greg, I remember I suggested this thing long time ago but never gave my ideas.

Had some free time and thought about it.
Now You can make lot of different layout options and SaT have table counter so it detects how many tables You have open so I think my idea should not require a lot of development. Not sure tho, as I have no idea about programming

https://i.gyazo.com/8bf2f3549fce7e05...330192a7f3.png

What about something like this?

Basically on left side somewhere in options You need to chose table count and on right side You have your layouts available and You can choose which layout You want for how many tables are open.

Also 1 idea if You implement something like this is to have two options how SaT will change tables.
Automatically - You just check that checkbox.
Manually - have some hotkey like "Check table count and layout"

I added this as maybe You are in some important hands in 3-4 tables and new table pops up and You do not want for SaT to change layout in middle of those hands as it can take 4-5 seconds to change layout and rearranges tables. So You just finish your hands and and press that hotkey for SaT to check if current layout is correct for table count.


What do You and others think about this?
That's an great idea for how to put this feature in the interface. Very well done. One question that comes to mind is, you have 4 different layout switches hard coded. Suppose someone wants 5 different layouts. Or 8. I don't know if its worth the hassle to allow a custom # of switches. Maybe hard coding 4 is the way to go just for ease of use. I don't think the majority of customers will be using this anyway
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04-26-2016 , 07:09 AM
I just gave 4 switches as example. No idea what is the best number. I personally would use 3 i think. 1-6 tables for bigger last tables, 7-12 tables for normal grind and 13+ to switch from tile to stack and tile in case there is some nice MTTs starting.

Edit: Maybe just put as much as You can and left side put some checkbox
[x] Active
[ ] Not Active

So if I use 3 Switches I just click first 3 and if someone wants to use 7 or 8 they can click 7 or 8 of them. As I said I have no idea about programming and how easy/hard it is to put this feature.
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05-04-2016 , 06:39 PM
Hi,

I'm getting a failure when trying to detect Bovada tables in setup. Any ideas?




Is it because I'm not on a play money table? (can't even find the play money even though I have that option checked in settings).
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05-04-2016 , 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson
Hi,

I'm getting a failure when trying to detect Bovada tables in setup. Any ideas?

http:////puu.sh/oGtgN/c7f192da82.jpg


Is it because I'm not on a play money table? (can't even find the play money even though I have that option checked in settings).
It says "StackAndTile.exe" which means its detecting the SaT window and not the table window. That means either 1. you didn't click on the table before pressing F9 or 2. you're not running SaT as administrator. The software should instruct you to do both

Let me know if it works
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05-05-2016 , 09:20 AM
Hi, do you support klas network? Has anyone been able to configure it there? Maybe as a custom site?

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05-05-2016 , 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Ilya N
Hi, do you support klas network? Has anyone been able to configure it there? Maybe as a custom site?

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Never tried it. As you mention, you'd need to select "Other" and try setting it up as a custom site and see if it works.
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05-05-2016 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
It says "StackAndTile.exe" which means its detecting the SaT window and not the table window. That means either 1. you didn't click on the table before pressing F9 or 2. you're not running SaT as administrator. The software should instruct you to do both

Let me know if it works
Ok I'm now getting to the part where you press F10 to fold and it's not working. I've tried it repeatedly. I've made sure to download the latest version and I've double checked that I'm running the program as administrator. Any ideas? Thanks. (The F9 part is working fine.)
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05-05-2016 , 06:23 PM
If you are playing on WPN network you may have a conflicting problem using F10 as a hotkey. I use that network and mapped some hotkeys to those function keys in the past and ran into problems. I contacted WPN support about it and they told me that those keys were system wide hotkeys with no way of turning them off. Good luck

Now, my questions......

1) I have a gaming keyboard and have six keys G1 through G6 dedicated to "Bet x bb" in stackandtile. These keys are dedicated 2.25x, 2.5x, 2.75x, 5.5x, 6.75x, and 1000x. They work all on six of my networks aside from PartyPoker however recently they all but one of them stopped working correctly on 888poker. The 2.5x one still works for some reason on 888poker but the other ones often trigger an "all in" size in the bet box. Any idea what might be causing this to happen now?

2) I know these keys are not suppose to work properly on PartyPoker. I have an old program called "PartyEZCash". The hotkeys are G1, G2, G3, G4, G5, and G6 on my gaming keyboard. In stackintile they are mapped to !a,!b,!c,!d,!e,!f. Inside of the PartEZCash program I re-dedicated these keys to those same ALT functions. I have seen it work from time to time but many times the betbox is just left blank with no action so I'm not if the programs are conflicting or what is happening here. Any ideas?

3) This is a bit off topic but if anyone knows I get very annoyed by the urgent table sounds on PartyPoker. Currently I'm playing with no sound on their site. If possible I'd like to take the "urgent" sound file that I use on PokerSTars and replace the existing one in PartyPoker. Does anyone know if this would work and if so where these files are located in the softwares?

Thanks in advance.
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05-05-2016 , 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson
Ok I'm now getting to the part where you press F10 to fold and it's not working. I've tried it repeatedly. I've made sure to download the latest version and I've double checked that I'm running the program as administrator. Any ideas? Thanks. (The F9 part is working fine.)
Ok. Are you using multiple monitors? My guess is that you will likely need to change some settings within Windows. See this page:

http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/windows-10-fix

Let me know which of those work, if any
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05-05-2016 , 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by cneuy3
If you are playing on WPN network you may have a conflicting problem using F10 as a hotkey. I use that network and mapped some hotkeys to those function keys in the past and ran into problems. I contacted WPN support about it and they told me that those keys were system wide hotkeys with no way of turning them off. Good luck
Ah good to know. I remember one site would always move a table when I pressed a key, I don't know if that was WPN or not. Regardless, its very stupid of them to create system wide hotkeys and not allow a user to turn them off.

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Now, my questions......

1) I have a gaming keyboard and have six keys G1 through G6 dedicated to "Bet x bb" in stackandtile. These keys are dedicated 2.25x, 2.5x, 2.75x, 5.5x, 6.75x, and 1000x. They work all on six of my networks aside from PartyPoker however recently they all but one of them stopped working correctly on 888poker. The 2.5x one still works for some reason on 888poker but the other ones often trigger an "all in" size in the bet box. Any idea what might be causing this to happen now?
These should work on Party cash games. But as mentioned on the PartyPoker help page on the SaT website, tournament tables don't display the blind levels in the title bar, so it will fail there.

As far as 888, no I have no idea why they are suddenly failing. I don't think there has been any major updates to the 888 client which would cause this.

I'll probably need you to keep an eye on it and try to find some more specific information. Does it happen on cash or tournaments? Which specific BB hotkeys are triggering it? If tournaments, what blind levels does it happen on? If you can log some specific examples maybe that will offer clues

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2) I know these keys are not suppose to work properly on PartyPoker. I have an old program called "PartyEZCash". The hotkeys are G1, G2, G3, G4, G5, and G6 on my gaming keyboard. In stackintile they are mapped to !a,!b,!c,!d,!e,!f. Inside of the PartEZCash program I re-dedicated these keys to those same ALT functions. I have seen it work from time to time but many times the betbox is just left blank with no action so I'm not if the programs are conflicting or what is happening here. Any ideas?
I'm a little confused as to how you have this set up. You normally wouldn't want to use the same hotkeys in both programs, because there would be a conflict. What you can try is, add the ~ prefix to all of the hotkeys in SaT. So instead of "!a" you would use "~!a". The ~ prefix tells SaT to not take over the hotkey and instead pass the keystroke combination on through to other programs or Windows itself. This may allow it to trigger the PartyEZCash hotkey

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Originally Posted by cneuy3
3) This is a bit off topic but if anyone knows I get very annoyed by the urgent table sounds on PartyPoker. Currently I'm playing with no sound on their site. If possible I'd like to take the "urgent" sound file that I use on PokerSTars and replace the existing one in PartyPoker. Does anyone know if this would work and if so where these files are located in the softwares?
For me, the Party client is installed in "C:\Programs\PartyGaming\PartyPoker\" and it looks like there are some .wav sound files in there. You could check and see if they can be replaced. You'd need to see if the client will detect incorrect files and 'update itself' to redownload..
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05-05-2016 , 11:24 PM
Thanks for the quick replies.

I'll keep an eye on the 888 situation. It seemed to happen with all the keys aside from the G5 2.5x bb key that I use as a hotkey. I didn't pay attention to the blind levels but I do believe we were in the ante levels in all cases.

As for Party I'll try your suggestion with the ~ before the alt sign and see if that does the trick. I'd like to keep the same hotkeys for all sites.
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05-05-2016 , 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by cneuy3
I'll keep an eye on the 888 situation. It seemed to happen with all the keys aside from the G5 2.5x bb key that I use as a hotkey. I didn't pay attention to the blind levels but I do believe we were in the ante levels in all cases.
I just checked and I did run some tests initially with ante levels so it should work. If/when it fails, please use the Help->Diagnostic->Get Window Title and paste the results for the table when it fails
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05-06-2016 , 02:52 AM
Hi, is it possible to play on different networks with one layout and same hotkeys? The problem is on site#1 i might use betsize1, betsize2 and betsize3 but on site#2 i might use betsize2,3 and 4. Also tables are of different size.

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05-06-2016 , 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Ilya N
Hi, is it possible to play on different networks with one layout and same hotkeys? The problem is on site#1 i might use betsize1, betsize2 and betsize3 but on site#2 i might use betsize2,3 and 4. Also tables are of different size.
SaT handles the table size by resizing the tables as best as it can to fit into the grid slots. You shouldn't need to worry about table size. All hotkey clicks are scaled to the appropriate size when they trigger

As for the BetSize hotkeys, each hotkey is assigned to a specific key, so it would not make sense to assign both "BetSize1" and "BetSize2" to the same key. To get around this, the idea is usually to configure those betsize buttons within the poker client to the same bet size
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05-06-2016 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
Ok. Are you using multiple monitors? My guess is that you will likely need to change some settings within Windows. See this page:

http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/windows-10-fix

Let me know which of those work, if any
I think the problem is that after the F9 table detection, for whatever reason SaT minimizes the window within the poker software and the minimized table is complete unresponsive when clicked on. I can sometimes "X" out of the table but usually have to just close the Bovada client itself. So I can't complete F10 because I can't play a hand on the table that's been "detected" with F9.

What I was doing before was opening a new table and trying to play a hand to do the F10 step but in that case that second table hadn't been detected (with F9) so it wasn't working.

Screenshot showing the minimized, unaccessible table:

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05-06-2016 , 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson
I think the problem is that after the F9 table detection, for whatever reason SaT minimizes the window within the poker software and the minimized table is complete unresponsive when clicked on. I can sometimes "X" out of the table but usually have to just close the Bovada client itself. So I can't complete F10 because I can't play a hand on the table that's been "detected" with F9.

What I was doing before was opening a new table and trying to play a hand to do the F10 step but in that case that second table hadn't been detected (with F9) so it wasn't working.

Screenshot showing the minimized, unaccessible table:

http://puu.sh/oIxO9/934d9622ed.jpg
Oh yes, this is the problem for sure. Opening a new table won't work. You'd need to use the same table.

So what happens is, when you press F9, SaT attempts to resize the table to your grid slot size. Maybe your grid slot size was initially set up strangely, and when SaT tries to resize, the table ends up minimized.

What happens if you try to Visualize Grid? Do you see all of your grid slots? Can you click on File->Current Layout, and paste me the "table_width/height" settings at the top?

If things look strange, you may need to create a File->New Layout
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05-15-2016 , 07:18 PM
Hey greg,

using these settings:


Im kind of dependant on using the "keep table in grid" hotkey/feature yet sometimes tables requiring action still overlap with the one I "reserved" the grid for, which causes misclicks of course.

thx
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05-15-2016 , 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MatteoBounce
Hey greg,

using these settings:
https://i.gyazo.com/b190aa4a0bbea7cc...35761c8ed7.png

Im kind of dependant on using the "keep table in grid" hotkey/feature yet sometimes tables requiring action still overlap with the one I "reserved" the grid for, which causes misclicks of course.

thx
What do you mean tables 'overlap'? You didn't show your Visualize Grid, but if your other grid slots overlap, then of course this would happen. But no grid slot will ever have more than 1 table. If you've overlapped your grid slots on top of each other to create a fake stack, then I would recommend not doing that for this precise reason
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05-15-2016 , 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
What do you mean tables 'overlap'? You didn't show your Visualize Grid, but if your other grid slots overlap, then of course this would happen. But no grid slot will ever have more than 1 table. If you've overlapped your grid slots on top of each other to create a fake stack, then I would recommend not doing that for this precise reason
what I meant is that, for example: If I use the hotkey "keep table in grid" on slot "2" to pay specific attention, other tables still pop up in that grid when cards are dealt/action is required.

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05-15-2016 , 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MatteoBounce
what I meant is that, for example: If I use the hotkey "keep table in grid" on slot "2" to pay specific attention, other tables still pop up in that grid when cards are dealt/action is required.

https://i.gyazo.com/d66aa320e445ad00...33aa6050c8.png
Right, so that's what I was mentioned. If slot 2 is already occupied by a table, then no other tables can move to it. The software will disallow it. Only one table is allowed in each grid slot (the only exceptions are the stack slot, new tables slot, old tables slot). You can test this by first keeping a table in the grid, and then trying hotkeys to "Move table to Next/Previous slot" and see if the slot will get skipped over when trying to use those hotkeys to move other tables.

So, first, are you absolutely certain that the table is popping up over the existing table in the same exact location? If so, then these are the reasons that may happen that I can think of:

1. The original table that you used "Keep table in grid" is not truly in that slot to begin with. I don't know how or why that would occur. You should verify the table #s for stacked/grid tables on the Main tab in the program to make sure that the table is in the grid.

2. The table that popped over isn't recognized by SaT, and is excluded from SaT's grid altogether. For example, if the table is from a site that is not Included into SaT. In this case, it would have to mean that the table is already in the exact spot as the table already in slot #2

3. You have two grid slots in the same exact location. I don't see slots #4 or #6 in the picture, but one slot # is hidden. If you have slot #4 and slot #2 overlapping each other exactly, then that would explain it

Pretty much what I'm saying is, there is probably something else happening which is giving the appearance of looking like there are 2 tables in the same slot. We just need to figure out what is happening so you can stop that in the future. Its going to take some investigative work to figure out whats happening though
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