Yea, usually I would use "Move table to next slot" hotkey and then "Keep table in grid".

Using a "move table to slot X" would require you to set up a million hotkeys for each specific slot. Whereas you can just keep using "Move table to next slot" to accomplish the similar thing

Hello

I'm trying to use SaT with Bovada. I have turned off the auto pop to front and have disabled ability to show hands.

However, the tables will not move to grid when action is required like I have it set to do.

Maybe I am doing something blatantly wrong? It works fine when I use the tile setting instead of Stack and Tile.

When the new tables open I sit down and hotkey stack them. Then like I said when it's my turn to act they stay in the stack and don't move to grid, and they don't even come to the front.



Edit: Works with carbon

^^Solved.

I removed Bovada from the sites list and re-added it. Maybe I didn't fully follow the instructions the first time.

Works fine now!

Yep this is usually the first thing to try. Glad you solved it, you tested it correctly. Well done

i have some issues with 888. it just seems to do stuff randomly sometimes (like moving to the grid, popping up to the top of the stack even though there's another active table on front etc).
"Move to Grid" is set as "after entering pot".
"popup tables whenever user action is required" is turned off on all softwares.
already tried removing/adding 888 once agin but that didnt help.

thx

Its unlikely that the problem is random. We need to narrow it down and find out when/where its happening.

Please run the Test described on this page. Test different scenarios and see if you can narrow down the situation where it may be failing.

http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help...op-incorrectly

Also, what other sites do you play on with SaT ?

my problem setting SaT up like i really want it to work, is that, say i use the following layout:



#1 being the stack and slots #2,3,4 used when action is required:
given that i cant drag tables manually, id still need slots #5,6,7 in case i need to pay specific attention to some tables (which is mandatory for touneys).

the problem that exists now is that those slots get used as a default as well, in case i have slots #2,3,4 aleady covered (which happens every now & then).
this simply leads to SaT not being as efficient as i would like it to be..
(too much eye/mouse movement etc.)

is there a way around this?

if not i think a "reserve slot" feature would be needed

thx

Hrmmm

Ok, first realize that the only special slots in SaT are the Stack slot, New Tables slot, and Old Tables slot. So in your example, only slot #1 is special in any way. All the rest of your slots 2-7 are "grid slots" and will accept tables when action is required. This is what you're noticing when slots 2-4 are already filled: tables then start moving into 5,6,7.

Now, I don't know what you mean by a "reserve slot" and what that would do.

But, I think maybe your original idea will be best for what you want. Remove slots 5-7 so that your grid layout is only slots 1-4. Then when you have a table you want to pay specific attention to, just use SaT's hotkey for "Ignore Table" and then drag it to the part of your screen where slots 5-7 previously were. That may be the best way.

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You may also want to enable the Advanced Option to "Allow action hotkeys on Ignored Tables"

using the "ignore table" feature seems kinda inefficient imo (manually dragging tables, lack of hotkeys, bet box not automatically activated), but i guess at this point it's my best option..


with "reserve slot" i mean the ability to set slots to work as placeholders in your set-up, so those get "ignored" and dont work like the grid slots. they only become active if you manually move a table in one of these slots (using "move table to slot x" hotkey for example).

re: my example from above
layout > slots > reserve slots > 5-7

think that would be pretty neat for MTT/SNG players and quite popular!

also, using the 4 color deck when including sites. to get SaT to fully detect if my hand is folded/flop is dealt or not, am i correct that i need to click on the marked section of the holecards? (see screenshot)

First, sorry I've been out of town for the weekend at my friends wedding. So I haven't been able to attend to stuff.

Now, usually I like to look at use-cases instead of feature requests. I think thats more practical. You just want an area of your screen dedicated to 'special' tables.

SaT's "grid layout" is meant to occupy the entire playing area that you want to use on your screen. Your "reserved slots" idea I would think would fall under that. Its an area where you would be playing on tables. You say that the "Keep Table In Grid" hotkey is no good for you because those slots will normally get used during normal play, and that would cause you too much eye and mouse movement. But thats kinda contradictory because if you will have a special table there, you will be moving your eye/mouse there too, and on your most important table nonetheless! Normally using the "Keep Table In Grid" hotkey is used for this exact purpose. The table is locked into its own slot and won't go back to the stack until you toggle it off. This was originally added for MTT final tables and cash HU grudgematches.

SaT's "Ignored Tables" is meant for tables that you want to be outside of your grid layout aka playing area. This feature was initially added so people could observe tables such as HU matches or bubble tables from the same MTT. There is no point in these tables taking up grid/playing space. But some people use Ignored Tables for other reasons too.

So, conceptually your resereved slots idea kinda falls inbetween the current functionality. I kinda think its too radical of a change to add into SaT and frankly would confuse most of the current users. I tend to think its more suited to keep those tables as part of your grid and just use the "Keep Table In Grid" hotkey. If you're gonna have to move your eye/mouse that far for the most important tables in your session anyway, then they are essentially part of your playing space

However, I'm wondering if we can't get the Ignored Tables feature to work better for your scenario.

For the hotkeys.. what you can do is use the Advanced Option to "also allow action hotkeys on Ignored Tables". I can look into also allowing the betbox feature to work on Ignored Tables as well.

There is also an extra advanced option to set the exact location for when tables get Ignored. But, all tables that get Ignored would move to this exact spot, so I guess you'd still have to drag them off of one another.
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help...vanced-options

So that might be the a hangup, causing a little inconvenience of dragging..

Those areas look correct. My only concern would be on the PokerStars table. The background behind the cards is a reddish black color. The area you've circled would work in that example screenshot because the card is a spade, which with that 4 color deck is "black". However, if that card is a heart, it would probably be "red", and SaT MIGHT get confused and think there is no card there, instead thinking that it is just seeing the table background. You would need to test this to be sure. Another potential solution would be to change that red background to something that wouldn't match any of the 4 colors of the deck cards

These questions came from PM, moving them here because my PM box gets full too fast.

That may be a result of the way that iPoker handles moving you to a new table. I'm not completely sure. When iPoker moves you to a new table, does it open a completely new window, leaving you with both the old table window and the new table window? Thats what it sounds like to me. Perhaps other sites just 'move' you to the new table within the same existing window, by just changing the graphics inside that window to reflect the table move. Does that make sense? If thats the case there is not much that can be done. Its poor design by iPoker unfortunately

There shouldn't be any problems. You would need to make sure you turn off any table popup/focusing/activation/etc within TN2. Originally SaT was designed to work alongside other hotkey programs such as TN2. By now, SaT has added a lot more stuff than from when it first came out, and many users choose to just use SaT alone. But I can understand that Tn2 has some extra betting hotkeys that SaT doesn't and probably never will have.

Oh, and another user recently told me that on PokerStars, the timebank is clicked automatically by Stars itself. That there is a setting somewhere to enable that. I don't know if its true or not

Hi, I've installed S&T on my secondary machine, changing the OS (from xp to win 7).
Now I'm experiencing a strange issue, when the hand is over, the table is supposted to be move in the stack. Well, it moves to it but after a fraction of a second it came back to the grid...
I'm correctly setup your software in my primary PC and in the previous secondary one, so I think I did everything correct

Does this always happen every time? What site? All sites or a specific site only? Have you tried removing and re-Including the site?

is there a way to make it where i can auto sit down when a new cash game table opens?

WPN ^

Everytime;
PS;
Yes I tried without luck

Hi Greg,

as my hud is really slow i turned of aero theme (which worked!!!)

however, now party poker flickers

http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/partypoker

turned the aero theme back on (and dwm scan)
-> party poker fine
-> hud lagging

will any of the other search methods help? :/

cheers

seems to work fine with BB scan method!

thank you for taking the time to at least consider it.
i guess if im the only one in need of such a feature its not of absolute necessity

as for your suggestion, yes it would be cool if "ignored" tables would function more similar to the tables in the "grid".


However, there are still some issues i have with SaT (pokerstars):

1. Using the "after entering pot" tile-mode, sometimes tables get moved into the designated slot after i take action without actually activating the call/bet button.
causing me to need to hover the table to click the button once more.
happens every now and then, dunno what causes this.

2. playing tournaments: while on break, tables will get moved into the "old tables" slot due to inactivity unless i set the "old tables duration" to >6mins.
its kind of annoying even though i just use the "stack all tables" hotkey for this.
im definitely in need of that feature in case i time out on one of my tables, because its a pain to manually find said table to click the im back button while SaT is active.

3. the replayer
i know this got mentioned multiple times but this is really essential.
SaT makes the replayer unusable. using the "ignore" feature, you can at least drag the replayer somewhere else to leave it there when in need but it seems to move away back into the slot after a while (maybe i cause this not sure).

thx again

No, you need to take your seat yourself.

Turn on all notifications (in advanced options) and tell me what notifications pop up when the table moves to the stack and then moves right back out

How are you 'entering pot'? Are you clicking the buttons with your mouse? Or using SaT hotkeys? Or some other method?

Yeah you are exactly right. I'm not sure of a good way to work around this. The "Stack all tables" hotkey is a good workaround. I recommend keeping a low duration for old tables so you don't sit out.

The default Stars sites within SaT will detect the replayer as a normal table. How is that unusable? It should just occupy a slot like a regular table. Normally people complain about this not because the replayer is unusable, but rather because it takes up valuable grid slot space. Using the "ignore table" hotkey is usually the recommended way to work around this.

One potential solution so that the replayer doesn't get detected as a table, is to choose to only detect Stars tables with the words "Logged in as" in the titlebar. This would mean the replayer wouldn't get detected. The problem with this is, when you originally open a cash table, it also wouldn't get detected, until you finally take a seat. I don't know if I like that.

would it be possible to make a hot key for this? like when the mouse is over a table and the hotkey is hit it will click the seat and confirm

It doesn't really make much sense to me.. Which seat would it choose? Normally people like to choose their own seat based on position on a tough player or on a fish. I don't think many people would just want to be randomly seated..