what do you mean by "any features that the site offers at the tables"? are you referring to merge's 4th button: allin? or also their 1/4, 1/2pot, etc buttons?

but i'm not sure that many sites offer these buttons, and id rather not implement a solution that is specific to merge only..

It could be lots of things such as rebuying, sitting out/in, even helping out registering. For example, Party has an option at the top of the table to register for favorite games. If SaT had multiple custom hotkey abilities a player could register for their favorite game with a simple hotkey. In my situation, sometimes I use SaT for the hotkeys only. If I had the ability for more options I could use a hotkey to tile or cascade the tables as they popup or close. I figure the possibilites are almost endless.

suppose i allow you to define two extra buttons in the custom site wizard: Other1 and Other2. then on the hotkeys tab, i offer hotkeys to click "Other1" and "Other2". i think that would be confusing to users and they wouldnt really understand what is going on. plus, what about all the built-in supported sites? for a site like merge its easy, i could set to be the allin button. but then i think people would expect to see a hotkey named "Allin" instead of "Other1"

just thinking outloud.. doesnt seem like a smooth solution

I'm most concerned about the end of hand because I don't use the others, but others might like the ability to customised how long a table stays.

Just to clarify SaT doesn't need a "solution". It implies that I think there is a problem when I am just making a suggestion that makes a great product better.

Also just to be clear I am referring to the custom site creator. The built in sites can remain the same. Being able to create hotkeys based on a players personal preferences would be a great improvement. Take myself for example. Currently using custom site creator I can only make 3 hotkeys, bet, fold, call. If I had the ability to make more hotkeys I could create a hotkey to press the betpot button to put the value in the betbox and then press the bet+stack hotkey. Although it might not seem like a big deal, when playing 12+ tables it would save valuable seconds that would allow players to perform more actions faster.

alright, this is doable, probably in the next version

yeah i understand that its just a suggestion

this has been suggested before in the past. and what you described is pretty much exactly how i would implement it. it would work for hotkeys. however, let me tell you another thing. the "buttons" are also used in the 'Left Click Detection' feature in conjunction with Tile Setting = After Entering Pot. SaT thinks that any button that is not the fold button is a VPIP button, meaning that you've entered the pot. so if SaT detects a mouse click within the rectangular region that you defined for your custom other button, then it would also send the table out of the stack and into the grid. this would be correct for an allin button or betpot button, but not for a "register for similar games" button.

so there are a few other things for me to think about

the site its down?

seems to work for me.. might have been a quick outage?

Ok thanks!

on Cake, the active tables do not seem to be popping up. What settings do i need in the client and on SaT? Also what is "include hole card detection" in the advanced options?

you need to turn off this option in cake
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help...ock-revolution

however, that should only affect tables that ARE popping up and fighting for focus. that shouldn't cause tables to NOT pop up.

if tables are not popping up, it usually means that SaT is not detecting the existence of the fold button. this can happen either because 1. you made a mistake during Include Site setup, or 2. SaT cannot detect anything at all because the Scan Mode is failing. for 1, you can simply try to remove and re-include the site. for 2. you would have to change the Scan Mode in Advanced Options and re-include all of your sites. but if other sites work properly, then the Scan Mode is probably working fine and its just the stupid cake software that is the culprit

did you receive an error when trying to Include cake, saying something like, "fold button is detected as Black, this could indicate a problem" ? if so, then cake2 won't work at all on your computer.

its part of the new "end of hand" detection, where SaT will send grid tables back to the stack automatically, either when the flop disappears, or when the hole cards disappear

more here
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/advanced-options

I can't get revolution to give up the focus. For me whichever table is on top stays on top. I have turned off all the "bring table to the front" on merge and rev, but can't seem to get SaT to bring the active game to the front.

man, a guy on the SaT forums has the same exact problem. i will test it out myself tomorrow and see if i can come up with anything, but i'm not holding my breath. cake2 software is just so bad

ok, i tested it and it does work for me on both cake2 and merge

can you test with other sites and see if it works. maybe try cake and stars, or merge and stars?

maybe the problem is that SaT is not detecting the Merge fold button. and easy way to test this is to use Tile Setting = Action Required, start SaT and put one Merge table into the stack. the table should pop into grid when it is your turn to act. we need to make sure that works correctly first

obvioulsy youll also need "bring urgent tables to top" checked in SaT's advanced options if you havent

i have similar probs with merge,cake and 888,but for me the table pop up work,but after the action the table didn't go back in the stack,also this problem didn't happen every time the table pops up..most of times it works

atm i make ignore table on and off,and then everything works fine again in most of cases...

hrmmm

how are you expecting to send the table back to the stack? using a "stack table" hotkey, or clicking Fold, or waiting for the End of the Hand?

Hi

I have used stack and tile for a while but when I last opened it I was prompted to update. But now it seems very very slow to respond. Every time I initiate a save or when the gui has to restart itself it can take 10-20 seconds. A dialog would keep popping up asking whether I would like to wait for SaT.

I am running a good laptop on windows 7 x64. SaT is running as admin.

well the new update was for the major 'end of hand' detection that has been requested for a while.

i added the "please wait" popup to let you know that the program has not frozen, but its just waiting for the web response. nothing in that regard has changed, so i dont know whats going on, but i too have noticed that it is slower. all the software is doing is connecting to the web to validate license/trail/check new version.

i am gonna fix this and not have it check so frequently. expect another update

Thank you

i normally use the fold+stack hotkey,but also tried the "stack table" hotkey for tables who didn't go back to the stack,but both hotkey's didn't work in this case..

didn't tried end of the hand feature until now..

btw...on stars,ipoker and party everything works fine

it might be that the tables ARE going back to the stack, and then they are instantly popping back to the grid. this is a common if there was a problem during include site setup.

try this test:

in Advanced Options, turn on Notifications for Action Required. save, and then start up SaT. open ONE table for a site that you are questioning. try to send a "stack table" hotkey to that table. if you see a popup notification in the lower right of the screen, saying that Action is required for that table, then you know that there is a problem.

it would mean that SaT thinks the Fold button is visible when in fact it is not. so you'll need to remove and re-include the site, paying close attention to the instructions during Include Site setup

v 2.1.1

- added: optional delay to wait before re-stacking an End Of Hand table (see very bottom of Advanced options page)
- fixed: Party cash game buyin popups were being detected as a table
- fixed: fold/call/bet actions should remove table from New Tables count
- fixed: VisualizeGrid was showing incorrect overlaps or gaps
- fixed: program lagging on startup/reload

http://www.stackandtile.com/sat

Thanks for fixing the lag. Works fine now.

Quick question. Is it correct to assume that end of hand detection won't work for non-white decks such as the 4 colour pokerstars one?

not correct, it should still work. in short, the card doesnt have to be white, it just needs to always be a different color from the table BEHIND it. see here:
http://www.stackandtile.com/forum/sh...d=1041#pid1041

i need to think of a better way to communicate it

Updated, but I'm not seeing this under Advanced Options?