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09-08-2011 , 08:05 PM
any update version? my poker stars table some time fly strangely, also my ipoker doesn't recongize Genting skin
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09-08-2011 , 08:27 PM
no updates yet. any updates would be to fix bugs that people have reported. if you have a specific problem, tell me about it so that i can fix it. i can't fix problems that i don't know about

when do the stars tables fly strangely? do they move out of the stack and into the grid? or vice versa? are you using Old Tables setting? Old Tables will move tables after X minutes

as for iPoker, i don't know about Genting skin. see the ipoker issues here:
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/ipoker
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09-08-2011 , 11:00 PM
YEa mine works fine now, it hadnt detected fold button properly. lol I actually played with the tables flying around randomly for an hour cause I was too lazy to bother fixing it.


Is there an option to sit out on next blind then automatically close table?
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09-09-2011 , 09:39 AM
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Is there an option to sit out on next blind then automatically close table?
no, thats more of a TableNinja type thing

if your site has a "sit out next bb" button, you can click that, and then just let detect when the table becomes "Old", when it will then move it to grid or close it, whichever you choose
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09-10-2011 , 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Mylife0115
any update version? my poker stars table some time fly strangely
I had that problem but I use tile->never and every table goes to grid so no stacked tables.
Advanced->left click detection jst uncheck it and it will work but I don't know if it helps when you stack your tables and put into grid when it requires action...
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09-11-2011 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by gargamel_fk
I had that problem but I use tile->never and every table goes to grid so no stacked tables.
Advanced->left click detection jst uncheck it and it will work but I don't know if it helps when you stack your tables and put into grid when it requires action...
thanks and i will try it for sure...gl
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09-11-2011 , 07:11 PM
I just change the mod of poker stars to titlebuster G-14, i still can bring SaT up, but as soon as I click on start, my whole PC would be frozen, until I click to close the SaT, please help.

THanks
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09-12-2011 , 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Mylife0115
I just change the mod of poker stars to titlebuster G-14, i still can bring SaT up, but as soon as I click on start, my whole PC would be frozen, until I click to close the SaT, please help.

THanks
did you remove and re-include pokerstars on the Sites tab? you'll need to do that for sure. and i dont know what stars theme that tiltbusters mod is based off of, so you should probably check that too. for example, i know some tiltbuster mods are based off of hypersimple, so youll want to include PokerStarsHyperSimple in SaT
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09-15-2011 , 10:55 AM
Hook up Entraction and I'll sign up a year plan
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09-15-2011 , 05:10 PM
I just bought the small stakes version after not using SaT for a while since I was just playing on one site. Anyway, I'm trying to play on Cake version 1 and Carbon at the same time, but it's just not working. SaT will detect and arrange the tables fine, but it won't bring them to the front. I turned off the auto-focus feature in both sites and made sure that SaT had "bring urgent tables to front" enabled. Would really appreciate your help on Skype when you get a chance!
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09-15-2011 , 11:59 PM
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Hook up Entraction and I'll sign up a year plan
we'll see..

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I just bought the small stakes version after not using SaT for a while since I was just playing on one site. Anyway, I'm trying to play on Cake version 1 and Carbon at the same time, but it's just not working. SaT will detect and arrange the tables fine, but it won't bring them to the front. I turned off the auto-focus feature in both sites and made sure that SaT had "bring urgent tables to front" enabled. Would really appreciate your help on Skype when you get a chance!
can you ensure that SaT correctly moves the tables from stack to grid, using the Tile Setting = Action Required?
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09-16-2011 , 07:59 PM
I tried this, and it doesn't work for my purposes, which is playing 24+ tables, otherwise I'd just play on one site.

What I want is a stack, where one table at a time will pop up, so as not to misclick. I need help. I just lost about 15 buyins due to misclicks.

edit: it does move the tables to the grid, but seemingly only if I have the "auto-focus" feature enabled in the clients, which of course causes intense focus stealing. I am just at a total loss as to what to now right now, as I've tried seemingly every combination of site and SaT settings. I'm also using PieceOfCake and MergeKeys for betting pot, shoving, etc. What I want is for the tables to stay in my stack, use my hotkeys normally, and just have one table pop up at a time!

Last edited by jglsd1; 09-16-2011 at 08:28 PM.
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09-16-2011 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jglsd1
I tried this, and it doesn't work for my purposes, which is playing 24+ tables, otherwise I'd just play on one site.

What I want is a stack, where one table at a time will pop up, so as not to misclick. I need help. I just lost about 15 buyins due to misclicks.
If you have focus on one single table while 24 tabling ur gonna timeout like crazy. Why wouldn't you do a 6 table grid?

I'm not sure you've configured it right. What I do is set a bind to Fold and move to stack and that's the only bind I use really.. (except for keep in grid when I want to keep a table visible even after i fold)
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09-17-2011 , 01:07 PM
would love to pay for this, however I dont own a credit card. THe only way I can pay would be paypal/neteller. Add some more payment methods imo.
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09-17-2011 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jglsd1
I tried this, and it doesn't work for my purposes, which is playing 24+ tables, otherwise I'd just play on one site.

What I want is a stack, where one table at a time will pop up, so as not to misclick. I need help. I just lost about 15 buyins due to misclicks.

edit: it does move the tables to the grid, but seemingly only if I have the "auto-focus" feature enabled in the clients, which of course causes intense focus stealing. I am just at a total loss as to what to now right now, as I've tried seemingly every combination of site and SaT settings. I'm also using PieceOfCake and MergeKeys for betting pot, shoving, etc. What I want is for the tables to stay in my stack, use my hotkeys normally, and just have one table pop up at a time!
i understand what you want

but we need to be sure that SaT is correctly detecting that action is required on each site's tables

therefore, you should try using Tile Setting = Action Required, and stack all the tables, and see if each table pops into grid when the Fold button becomes visible. if this works, then we can be sure that SaT is correctly seeing the action buttons and we can go from there

ideally, youll want to turn off each client's auto popup feature, and only use SaT's (which is in Advanced Options -> Bring Urgent Table to Top)
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09-17-2011 , 05:33 PM
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i understand what you want

but we need to be sure that SaT is correctly detecting that action is required on each site's tables

therefore, you should try using Tile Setting = Action Required, and stack all the tables, and see if each table pops into grid when the Fold button becomes visible. if this works, then we can be sure that SaT is correctly seeing the action buttons and we can go from there

ideally, youll want to turn off each client's auto popup feature, and only use SaT's (which is in Advanced Options -> Bring Urgent Table to Top)
I did what you said-turned off the auto popup feature in both clients, and this works-SaT is recognizing the tables and moving them into the grid when action is required. However, it's not possible for me to play this way. I just need your help getting it to work so that all of the tables can be in the main stack and just pop up one at a time without stealing focus from each other.

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09-17-2011 , 05:37 PM
ok, so if that works, then use Tile Setting = Never

and make sure that SaT's option to Bring Urgent Tables to Top is checked

that should be it. then obviously set up hotkeys to move tables to the stack and optionally to the grid if you want to.

have you tried that and it failed?
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09-17-2011 , 07:22 PM
Yes, I tried what you described and it doesn't pop the table to the front if I raise and then am put all in, or am put all in at all. e.g. I c-bet, they raise all in-the table will be hidden and I'll likely time out.

In carbon poker, the hotkeys displayed will be "fold" and "all in". Also, in Cake v1 the tables won't activate under the same conditions or if I need to post my blind. Sigh. Other than that, it works...however, not in those situations. Minraising AA, getting put all in, and then timing out is a huge problem, obviously.

I wish I could show you what I mean. With the amount of tables that I'm playing, tiling even using the "after entering pot" setting is not an option for me as the amount of mouse movement is irritating to me. I think I've got it 90% working now...just need the tables to pop up in the situations I described.
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09-17-2011 , 08:00 PM
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Yes, I tried what you described and it doesn't pop the table to the front if I raise and then am put all in, or am put all in at all. e.g. I c-bet, they raise all in-the table will be hidden and I'll likely time out.

In carbon poker, the hotkeys displayed will be "fold" and "all in". Also, in Cake v1 the tables won't activate under the same conditions or if I need to post my blind. Sigh. Other than that, it works...however, not in those situations. Minraising AA, getting put all in, and then timing out is a huge problem, obviously.

I wish I could show you what I mean. With the amount of tables that I'm playing, tiling even using the "after entering pot" setting is not an option for me as the amount of mouse movement is irritating to me. I think I've got it 90% working now...just need the tables to pop up in the situations I described.

ok,

understand how SaT detects when tables need action: usually, its the presence of the Fold button. when i was configuring it for each site, most of the time i would just be testing on NLHE cash games. instances when there are three buttons visible: Fold,Call,Bet (buttons 1, 2, 3)

now on some sites, when someone shoves all in on you, sometimes the Fold button moves, or sometimes the bet button disappears, and there are only two buttons, call and fold. sometimes the fold button moves in this instance. so in that case, only buttons 1 and 2 are visible. or maybe call is moved and only 1 and 3 is visible.

so if the site uses the Fold button, thats usually button 1, and as long as that is visible when someone shoves on you, then SaT should detect it.

what you can do is, take screenshots of the table when all three buttons are visible, and then take screenshots of the table in situations when you think SaT will not detect it, that is, situations when someone shoves all in on you. also check to see if it matters if they cover you or not. usually this DOES matter, since if they do not cover you, the bet button will be visible as well allowing you to shove over the top. maybe you should not use SaT while doing this so we can get it straightened out first. then show me the screenshots and ill take a look at the tables and where the buttons are

Last edited by greg nice; 09-17-2011 at 08:12 PM.
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09-18-2011 , 06:31 PM
When a table gets moved to a grid spot, the HUD disappears for a second. This is really annoying. Other than this, great program! I play on Pokerstars and use PT3. Can this be fixed?
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09-18-2011 , 08:01 PM
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When a table gets moved to a grid spot, the HUD disappears for a second. This is really annoying. Other than this, great program! I play on Pokerstars and use PT3. Can this be fixed?
i imagine that the drawing of the PT3 HUD gets delayed when tables get moved. if you manually drag a table to a new location very fast with your mouse, does the HUD similarly take a second to "catch up" to the table? thats what i think the problem is. i don't know if you can speed up the PT3 HUD drawing rate or performance settings, you'll have to ask them
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09-19-2011 , 09:03 PM
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ok,

understand how SaT detects when tables need action: usually, its the presence of the Fold button. when i was configuring it for each site, most of the time i would just be testing on NLHE cash games. instances when there are three buttons visible: Fold,Call,Bet (buttons 1, 2, 3)

now on some sites, when someone shoves all in on you, sometimes the Fold button moves, or sometimes the bet button disappears, and there are only two buttons, call and fold. sometimes the fold button moves in this instance. so in that case, only buttons 1 and 2 are visible. or maybe call is moved and only 1 and 3 is visible.

so if the site uses the Fold button, thats usually button 1, and as long as that is visible when someone shoves on you, then SaT should detect it.

what you can do is, take screenshots of the table when all three buttons are visible, and then take screenshots of the table in situations when you think SaT will not detect it, that is, situations when someone shoves all in on you. also check to see if it matters if they cover you or not. usually this DOES matter, since if they do not cover you, the bet button will be visible as well allowing you to shove over the top. maybe you should not use SaT while doing this so we can get it straightened out first. then show me the screenshots and ill take a look at the tables and where the buttons are

Yes, that makes sense to me. On Cake, if you sit down at a table, wait for your BB, and someone leaves before you post, Cake will prompt you to post your blind manually, and the fold button disappears. On Merge (Carbon mini), if someone shoves over my raise/bet, the fold button doesn't disappear, but it does move from its normal position to farther left on the screen, so that explains the problem. In those situations, the fold button is absent or not in its usual position.

I will take screenshots ASAP. I just wanted to let you know I'm going to be away from my computer for the next few days, but I read your message. Thanks for your help, and will send you those screenshots on Thursday or Friday.
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09-19-2011 , 11:30 PM
yeah, if the fold button moves in those certain situations, perhaps SaT should use a different button to determine when action is required. but i'll need to look at the screenshots to see which button to choose which will always be visible. take some shots of a situation when the buttons are in their normal usual spot too
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09-20-2011 , 09:03 AM
Can this program be properly used with a mouse? I have recently stopped using ToI because for various reasons I need to play with a mouse and not hotkeys. What I was finding was that while it worked most of the time, there were times when I would need to manually adjust the default bet size as set by TN. Often, the act of doing this would place the table into a tile slot before I then clicked on the raise button. Because I would be acting quickly, the result would be that the table below the table I was planning to raise on would be unexpectedly exposed in the stack, forcing me to misclick raise on that table.

Should I expect to encounter a similar problem with SaT?
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09-20-2011 , 11:19 AM
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Can this program be properly used with a mouse? I have recently stopped using ToI because for various reasons I need to play with a mouse and not hotkeys. What I was finding was that while it worked most of the time, there were times when I would need to manually adjust the default bet size as set by TN. Often, the act of doing this would place the table into a tile slot before I then clicked on the raise button. Because I would be acting quickly, the result would be that the table below the table I was planning to raise on would be unexpectedly exposed in the stack, forcing me to misclick raise on that table.

Should I expect to encounter a similar problem with SaT?
SaT can be used with just the mouse and no hotkeys if you so choose. youll need to make sure that "Left Click Detection" is enabled in Advanced Options (it is enabled by default). what will happen is, when you click on the Fold button with your mouse, the table will return to the stack. tables will move to the grid depending on your Tile Setting. 1. on Tile Setting = Action Required, the table will move to grid without you having to do anything, when it is your turn to act. 2. on Tile Setting = After entering pot, the tables will move to the grid after you've clicked on Call or Raise with your mouse

i'm having difficulty understanding your problem

TN automatically puts bet sizes in the box for you? but sometimes you want to change that bet size. so you click on the slider to change it? and the act of clicking on the slider causes the table to move to grid?

if thats the case, i dont think it should happen with SaT. but, it would be best to download the trial and test it out on some play money or micro stakes, just to be sure. if you're already used up your trial period, you can still test on micro stakes. but if you want to test it out fully, click on the Register button in the software, and give me your MFP ID, and i'll extend your trial
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