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11-03-2010 , 02:03 AM
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charge ppl for the privilege.
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11-03-2010 , 06:15 AM
He cant charge whilst its in beta stages.

Once people pay for it, he cant just push updates out to see what happens.

S&T isnt quite ready for release.. although its very close.

Right now people can winge in this thread, but Greg dosent really have to take any notice.. once S&T is released, he then has to take customer complaints very seriously.

There is no doubt that within a few months from now, S&T will be both finished and a commercial product.
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11-03-2010 , 08:48 AM
Anybody else who has problem with PartyPokerModern now using the new SAT version?
Everything like buyin windows and such are being treated as tables .

Creating a custom site doesn't work either, it works but the graphic is glitching on all the tables (very strange).

Rock
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11-03-2010 , 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Rock_N_Rolla
Anybody else who has problem with PartyPokerModern now using the new SAT version?
Everything like buyin windows and such are being treated as tables .

Creating a custom site doesn't work either, it works but the graphic is glitching on all the tables (very strange).

Rock
we'll see if i'm able to test on party again, im gonna try to create a new account

using the custom site wizard, you are gonna have to test to see if cashier windows match or not. theres a step specifically for this process where it will highlight all matching windows. so when you get to this step, youll have to put some text either in the "include" box or the "exclude" box and then retest the highlighting to see if the cashier will match or not
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11-03-2010 , 10:23 AM
PLayed a session with 12 tables today.

I didnt notice any lag.

Need to play a few more sessions before saying "yes def the update has solved the lag issue" but right now it looks very promising.

Will keep you notified.
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11-03-2010 , 11:27 AM
Feature request!!
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S&T is treating things like

"last hand replayer"
"are you sure you want to close this table?"
"player notes"
"other programs"

as tables. So say I want to leave a table it sees the popup, treats it like a table, tries to resize it and also move it.

This has two issues.

1. when it cant rezise something it keeps trying so cpu usage shoots up.
2. it anoying! because things just keep getting moved around

So the feature request is that S&T somehow gets better at figuring out what is a table and what is not a table and leaves the non-tables alone.

Best wishes
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11-03-2010 , 11:51 AM
Tried to use it with Ongame. Had it running on AP before, but the sad AP software caused a high lagging and ya, wit SAT it was not playable then.

On Ongame everything seems smoother. But one problem: SAT is putting the lobby in the grid. Can I avoid it?

Thanks for your work at all!
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11-03-2010 , 12:58 PM
S&T has stopped working again and Im not going to set it up agin.. it takes too long.

S&T thinks there is another instance running; there isnt.

IMO there seems to be some info in the sat.dat file which gets corrupted sometimes when S&T ends.

But I cant be going through the entire setup process every couple of days. There is some issue here so it needs looking at.
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11-03-2010 , 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu_the_kid_Ungar

S&T is treating things like

"last hand replayer"
"are you sure you want to close this table?"
"player notes"
"other programs"

as tables.
what site?



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Originally Posted by Stu_the_kid_Ungar

So the feature request is that S&T somehow gets better at figuring out what is a table and what is not a table and leaves the non-tables alone.
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Originally Posted by PersianOyabun
On Ongame everything seems smoother. But one problem: SAT is putting the lobby in the grid. Can I avoid it?
you guys are both reporting the same problem. windows erroneously getting detected as tables. maybe i havent been clear enough, but in the custom site wizard, there is a step that you are supposed to do for this. you need to put in text that is uniquely included in a table title. things like "$" or "/" or "NL" or "username", etc, and you need to put something to EXCLUDE as well, such as "lobby"


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Originally Posted by Stu_the_kid_Ungar

S&T thinks there is another instance running; there isnt.
when does this happen? when does it think this? and when does it tell you that you must create a new config?
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11-03-2010 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice

you guys are both reporting the same problem. windows erroneously getting detected as tables. maybe i havent been clear enough, but in the custom site wizard, there is a step that you are supposed to do for this. you need to put in text that is uniquely included in a table title. things like "$" or "/" or "NL" or "username", etc, and you need to put something to EXCLUDE as well, such as "lobby"

I did this




when does this happen? when does it think this? and when does it tell you that you must create a new config?
It dosent tell me to create another file but it has ahppened a few times since the update and the only way I have been able to resolve it is to delete S&T and start again.

The message i get is "an older instance of this script is already running.... etc etc"

There isnt a S&T process running in Task manager and a reboot dosent change things.. so S&T is getting the idea that there is another instance running from somewhere else.. my intuition says the dat file.

What I have found (when using custom sites) is you cant simply copy the contents of the site directory and the Settings ini file across.. it dosent work... so you end up having to start from scratch each time.

It has happened say 3 times so something is happening.


I think its due to S&T not exiting properly (when I sutdown the machine) and this state being stored in the dat file (or somewhere else) and then when I go to load it up again afterwards S&T has an entry somewhere saying there is already an instance running.

If you have teamviewer and are online now you are more than welcom to have a look.,
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11-03-2010 , 02:14 PM
BTW the site is FT
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11-03-2010 , 03:37 PM
reposting for others

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Originally Posted by greg nice
ATTN:

if you cannot see the GUI, look in your config ini for

Code:
[general]
gui_x=-32000
gui_y=-32000
or something similar. change the numbers to 0,0 and you should be good. i think this bug occurs if you close the program via the tray menu while its minimized
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11-03-2010 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu_the_kid_Ungar
PLayed a session with 12 tables today.

I didnt notice any lag.

Need to play a few more sessions before saying "yes def the update has solved the lag issue" but right now it looks very promising.

Will keep you notified.
v 1.99.16

USING PREFLOP,/TABLE UNDER MOUSE

prefold checkboxes arent superceding presence of cards (tables that have been prefolded pop back out)

IIRC this was fixed in a prev version

no ther complaints at 18 tables
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11-03-2010 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 22riverrat22
v 1.99.16

USING PREFLOP,/TABLE UNDER MOUSE

prefold checkboxes arent superceding presence of cards (tables that have been prefolded pop back out)

IIRC this was fixed in a prev version

no ther complaints at 18 tables
I noticed this seemed to be better too!
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11-03-2010 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu_the_kid_Ungar
I noticed this seemed to be better too!
this is a negative,,

ive been trying to fold the same table multiple times, it goes to stack and returns, so 18 tables is the # of clicks for 22-24 or so

def tilting

also. idk if it was actually fixed or if it was a table resizing issue last time will have to look later
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11-03-2010 , 07:48 PM
i think i had previously had issues with preact buttons(but with the preact not being ticked, it is being ticked now) that were solved by me resizing my grid, unfortunatley that means i get fewer tile slots reducing the utility of the program


tables pop out to tile as soon as cards are dealt, preact fold does get ticked by the fold and stack hotkey, the table does go to stack, but the cards are still visible so the table scan pops the table back into the tile


some sort of "if preact fold selected = yes, move to tile=no" addition and this will work quite adequately for my needs




i think you are VERY close to having achieved perfect functionality greg (for what im interested in on Stars anyway)

im waaay excited, and will be first in line to ship u some loot once this leaves beta
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11-04-2010 , 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
we'll see if i'm able to test on party again, im gonna try to create a new account

using the custom site wizard, you are gonna have to test to see if cashier windows match or not. theres a step specifically for this process where it will highlight all matching windows. so when you get to this step, youll have to put some text either in the "include" box or the "exclude" box and then retest the highlighting to see if the cashier will match or not
Does not work.

Party poker does not have a "cashier" window. And I have exclued correct stuff and I have included the correct stuff.
So yes, only my actual tables are moving, but the graphic is glithing like HELL.

Graphic from the table, such as chatboxes and other stuff disappear.
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11-04-2010 , 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Rock_N_Rolla
Does not work.

Party poker does not have a "cashier" window. And I have exclued correct stuff and I have included the correct stuff.
So yes, only my actual tables are moving, but the graphic is glithing like HELL.

Graphic from the table, such as chatboxes and other stuff disappear.
post the include and exclude lines from your ini file
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11-04-2010 , 09:35 AM
So I upgraded the new version by dragging the new.ini file over

I click start and it says "Please set up a hotkey to stack your tables"

ok fine

I make a new config

i set up my grid, and I have stack table bound to f1 and stack all tables bound to f5

click start ---> Please set up a hotkey to stack your tables



Windows 7 64bit is what i'm running
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11-04-2010 , 11:47 AM
ok using stack and tile now for 2 weeks. it works good with < 20 tables in the stack. but if i have 25 or 30 tables in a single stack the programm slows down dramatical and gets so slow that i time out in 50% of my tables. is there any solution for this ?
iam using win7 64bit, table ninja and holdem manager.
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11-04-2010 , 12:00 PM
for people playing on party...how do you use it with party without party constantly stealing focus from other sites...seems like its just me.
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11-04-2010 , 12:14 PM
@greg

thanks for the help last night. All working fine now.

I tried not using a custom site for my FT layout but it wouldnt return stacks to the stack.

Remade the custom layout.

I wanted to simply use inclue "- $" as all FT tables have that string and exclude nothing.

For some reason S&T didnt recognise the tables using that string and even picked up my camtasia recorder even though - $ dosent appear in the title of that window.

Ended up using the word limit as the string but wondered why "- $" was no good.

Thanks
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11-04-2010 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Knochenfabrik
ok using stack and tile now for 2 weeks. it works good with < 20 tables in the stack. but if i have 25 or 30 tables in a single stack the programm slows down dramatical and gets so slow that i time out in 50% of my tables. is there any solution for this ?
iam using win7 64bit, table ninja and holdem manager.
i had performance issues 20-35 tables too, and i think my eventual solution will be to buy a desktop with baller specs
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11-04-2010 , 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 22riverrat22
i had performance issues 20-35 tables too, and i think my eventual solution will be to buy a desktop with baller specs
my computer isnt that bad. quad core cpu+ 8gb ram + ssd drive....
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11-04-2010 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 22riverrat22

ive been trying to fold the same table multiple times, it goes to stack and returns, so 18 tables is the # of clicks for 22-24 or so

def tilting

also. idk if it was actually fixed or if it was a table resizing issue last time will have to look later
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Originally Posted by 22riverrat22
i think i had previously had issues with preact buttons(but with the preact not being ticked, it is being ticked now) that were solved by me resizing my grid, unfortunatley that means i get fewer tile slots reducing the utility of the program


tables pop out to tile as soon as cards are dealt, preact fold does get ticked by the fold and stack hotkey, the table does go to stack, but the cards are still visible so the table scan pops the table back into the tile


some sort of "if preact fold selected = yes, move to tile=no" addition and this will work quite adequately for my needs
)

my table dims where this is an issue are 523x383
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