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12-20-2011 , 03:59 PM
This is the support thread for SngRegistrator, which is table/sng selection software.

Last edited by Bobo Fett; 01-15-2012 at 08:28 AM.
12-21-2011 , 10:12 AM
Love it. I was one of the original clients of this, and can vouch for the awesomeness of MSIM and his constant effort to improve his products after taking my feedback into consideration-even after I had stopped paying for his time. Top notch effort and I hope this really evolves into a beast of a product--although I kinda hope that it doesnt catch on because I dont really want half a dozen regs insta sitting my lobbies.

Thanks mate and good luck.
12-21-2011 , 10:27 AM
Thank you mj, too kind /blush
12-23-2011 , 03:11 AM
whats the price for buying this?

I havent tested it yet, but im curious about pricerange before i go invest time out of my hourly into testing a program that i might not even want to buy cuzz of rediculous price
12-23-2011 , 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by switch0723
surely as soon as say 4 players from 1 stake are using it, its going to result in those 4 players just sitting each other when all snap sit a new lobby?
From the HU Sng thread. Will this happen?
12-23-2011 , 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by fastcolt
whats the price for buying this?

I havent tested it yet, but im curious about pricerange before i go invest time out of my hourly into testing a program that i might not even want to buy cuz of rediculous price
Program was extensively tested for all possible scenarios and its 99% release build atm. Prices depend on the tournament buyin. (approx 1-2buyins - License) which means you need 1-2 tournaments to pay it off and from the people i know they crossed that line very fast.

If you see the value in this then you wont find it ridiculous. If not then you can do whatever you please.

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Originally Posted by Kady
From the HU Sng thread. Will this happen?
The way the program currently works with checking lobbies

- if a lobby with(valid-note) is spotted its clicked as fast as possible to enter the lobby of that tournament.
- now comes the double-check(program scans the lobby once again to make sure the lobby is still valid and meets all selected-options.)
- finally after second check registration is initiated

If you compare it to 4(or more regs) waiting for new lobby manually you can imagine which of the two would spot filled lobby faster.(it takes miliseconds for program to understand it and click)

The reality of the universe though is that in both cases miss-registration can happen, if players do it manually or its automatic but automatic registration will check and register much faster so its very much less likely that its going to happen.
12-23-2011 , 11:54 AM
Program was extensively tested for all possible scenarios and its 99% release build atm. Prices depend on the tournament buyin. (approx 1-2buyins - License) which means you need 1-2 tournaments to pay it off and from the people i know they crossed that line very fast.

If you see the value in this then you wont find it ridiculous. If not then you can do whatever you please.


can you go in further about this buy in / license?

How long is the license valid?
Does the license only work for one stake?
Do i have lifelong updates if i purchase a license?
what happens if i play 200s today, i purchase a license, i run good and move up to 300s, the program becomes useless?
If i play 500 trough 100$ games, will it work for all of those?

More information around these things would be greatly appreciated

Imagine I play 1Ks, i think 2.000$ for a piece of software is incredibly much, and prolly a ton cheaper to hire a coder for like 40$/hr and custom make something that does exactly the same.

Also, doesnt tableninja already do this (for the exception of the ability to sit fish, then again, not like that many fish opensit)

im truly not trying to be a hater here, i think all of these are valid questions/concerns.
12-23-2011 , 12:45 PM
What happens when 20 regs set this to all catch the same lobby?
12-23-2011 , 01:00 PM
Also if this software is widespread it becomes pointless for the people using it, right? The only person I can see benefiting from this long term is the guy who makes $$$ from selling it.
12-23-2011 , 03:53 PM
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How long is the license valid?
1 year

The prices are following and they are included in the program along with automatic payment/unlock or custom payment/unlock with all the required info explained in the program, i am sorry not to post it earlier but its hard to edit a 2+2 thread once you make it

Low Stakes: License for Tournaments up to $15.00 Buyin – $20.00 / Year
Mid Stakes: License for Tournaments up to $60.00 Buyin – $80.00 / Year
High Stakes: License for Tournaments up to $300.00 Buyin – $270.00 / Year
Nose Bleed: License for Tournaments up to $5000.00 Buyin – $540.00 / Year

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Does the license only work for one stake?
Its "Up to (x) Stake based" so the license for tournaments up to 300$/E(will work for all tournaments up to that)

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Do i have lifelong updates if i purchase a license?
Yes

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what happens if i play 200s today, i purchase a license, i run good and move up to 300s, the program becomes useless?
It depends what license you bought.

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If i play 500 trough 100$ games, will it work for all of those?
I am not entirely sure what this means, can you elaborate?

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Imagine I play 1Ks, i think 2.000$ for a piece of software is incredibly much, and prolly a ton cheaper to hire a coder for like 40$/hr and custom make something that does exactly the same.
Thats why the Nose Bleed lic is 540$ and not $2k The prices are posted and they might be lowered in the future or they might go up. In any case the current ones in my opinion reflect it in a way that user will surely get what he paid for and make it worth my time/effort to keep working on it.

Opinions on this will vary among people and user/programmer experience.

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Also, doesnt tableninja already do this (for the exception of the ability to sit fish, then again, not like that many fish opensit)
I believe TableNinja has a different use/features, never used it much though but i am sure it is different.

About not like many fish opensit i will disagree there, posting a bit from chat log from one of the previous users.

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...good news, the program paid for itself this morning at 5am... it got a player in $60 who was bad bad bad. ...
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...the program caught a player in 100 earlier today, I was downstairs watching tv, lol...
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...but the one a week ago it caught in 200, he played very bad but was very very lucky so he won
haha...
For privacy reasons client of mine wont be mentioned but believe it or not those are some of the success/story chatlogs, could go on with this but this is enough to show some of the user opinions on fish-opensitting

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im truly not trying to be a hater here, i think all of these are valid questions/concerns.

fastcolt, infact thank you for all the questions, it helps for others asking same things as well, as long it is civil and reasonable question/or even critic i will always listen to it

also, if you have more questions feel free to ask or skype if you want

Regards
12-23-2011 , 05:01 PM
so any words on what happens when multiple regs have employed this to sit identical empty lobbies or hunt a particular fish?
12-23-2011 , 05:24 PM
Eset Smart Security 4 doesn't like this software. Might it be malicious?
12-23-2011 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by chadders0
so any words on what happens when multiple regs have employed this to sit identical empty lobbies or hunt a particular fish?
As previously answered to Kady, miss registration is something that can happen to people manually registering or using a registrator.

Its up to you to decide what you want to rely on

- computer recognizing if lobby is valid to register in milliseconds and also double check a lobby or people randomly clicking to register first ammong eachother

Putting that on a side...

The main value of this program is avoiding friends and tougher opponents while sitting opponents that you'd rather play. Anyone can wait for empty lobby and snap it but the main goal of this tool is to use your own note-database to register players you wish to play and avoid those that you dont while having your hands/mind free, avoiding all sort of annoyance that comes with registering.

Every player can note his own opponents however he wants and every player can have his choice who to play and who to dont play because notes are not shared, they are yours only, in your PS account.
12-23-2011 , 06:00 PM
MSIM has worked on and is working on software for me for some time, he is honest, hard working and dedicated to making quality products.

I can honestly say he is a man of his word and I would put my good name on the line to recommend him to anyone.

Stevenrh1 on PS
12-23-2011 , 06:06 PM
thanks Steve, appreciate the kind words
12-23-2011 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by sawwee
Eset Smart Security 4 doesn't like this software. Might it be malicious?
i am positive that its false positive, in other words please use a major scan with multiple av products(you can do this online) and see what the major av software companies report
12-23-2011 , 06:41 PM
as much as it would be awesome to have this programme i don't think it should exist and i wouldn't be surprised if it conflicted with stars terms and conditions.
12-23-2011 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by chadders0
as much as it would be awesome to have this programme i don't think it should exist and i wouldn't be surprised if it conflicted with stars terms and conditions.
I did research their policy carefully and i didnt find anything that would make the program against it, then after thinking i also realized

TableNinja has auto-registrator - which is legal
TN Cash table scanner is searching for players that you want to play according to your own HH data(note-colors in this case) - which is also legal

So i really dont see why wouldnt they allow those features separately but not mixed into one.

If having a program to register sng for you is legal and selecting tables/games according to your own gathered data is then where is the issue?
12-23-2011 , 09:53 PM
I email stars to ask them about it and received this back:

Hello xxx,

Thank you for contacting PokerStars.

Sharkystrator does not use any information not available to any observer of the game, nor does it use any means to automate play or assist in cheating (such as sharing hole cards with others).

Therefore, this program, and others like it are permitted for use on PokerStars. Specifically prohibited are programs that share hole cards, or automate the play of the game so that it can run unattended.

You may find our policy on such software in section 5.5 of our terms of services at:

http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/tos/

This page links to an explanation of our prohibited programs policy at:

http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/prohibited/

A partial list of permitted and forbidden programs is available on that page as well.

Good luck in the games, and thank you for playing on PokerStars.

Regards,

Erick F
PokerStars Game Security Team

So it seems legit, I think it's the hunting I have an issue with mostly as it can easily be used maliciously against other players. On the flip side this could force some worse players to move down stakes and leave more fish for the cream of the crop, so I guess there are advantages too. I don't love it still, but I'd be stupid not to buy it if it is indeed ok to use (I emailed them back to clarify they saw the hunting aspect of the programme).
12-24-2011 , 03:59 PM
Hello xxx,

Thank you for your email.

In the world of Heads up play, player seek and avoidance is a common practice due to the ability to profile a person's play tendencies and thus, I would consider the word hunt somehow harsh. This software just makes use of player's personal notes along with other parameters to save time and select tables that a player would anyhow will choose sooner or later. Given that this program does not cross over with any forbidden action listed in the PokerStars list of Prohibited software, PokerStars deems this tool as permitted.

Please let me know if you need further assistance.

Regards,

Erick F.

Guess it's ok to use, my apologies.
12-24-2011 , 04:20 PM
chadders0, as i thought automation like this is a common practice and really i dont see why they would allow alot of tools that exist like that and now change their policy so i am glad that PS officially says its OK, apology accepted - no worries about that
12-26-2011 , 01:13 PM
2 questions.

first my spyware scanner also found the software malicious and asked me to quarantine 3 files that were in the unextracted folder. sbsxxxx.xxx or somethin


and my other question is lets say your color code on pokerstars is blue or yellow and you have to pick the same color on sharkystrator. but theres like 3 different yellows or blues on ur chart. do you just pick the one that looks the closest to the pokerstars color or how does it work ?


thanks
12-26-2011 , 04:31 PM
btw the AV used was Lavasoft AdAware Internet Security
12-27-2011 , 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by HosniMubarak
btw the AV used was Lavasoft AdAware Internet Security
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Originally Posted by TheWorldIsYours
2 questions.

first my spyware scanner also found the software malicious and asked me to quarantine 3 files that were in the unextracted folder. sbsxxxx.xxx or somethin


and my other question is lets say your color code on pokerstars is blue or yellow and you have to pick the same color on sharkystrator. but theres like 3 different yellows or blues on ur chart. do you just pick the one that looks the closest to the pokerstars color or how does it work ?


thanks
I will then guess you are both of the guys who posted here?

there are potential false positive reports which mainly come from bad AV companies reporting Autoit(packer) as a threat, btw Autoit was used to make the most part of program and its one of the most popular(if not most popular) scripting languages that exist.

About colors...

You must pick the exact color, so if it's custom you will have to match it to the exact color codes. I recommend you use the default colors to avoid any problems with the colors not matching. If you simply make your notes default colors(COLORS FROM THE COLOR CHART LIST), then you also use the default colors from the registrator you wont have to worry about then not matching. You dont have to do this, you can match them numerically from the custom list, but that would be the harder way.

Its up to you.
12-27-2011 , 08:10 PM
You could have your software read the notes file and figure out the colors from there unless I am missing something. Weird thing about stars is they put it in the format BGR instead of RGB hex. I use this page whenever I am dealing with colors http://www.mathsisfun.com/hexadecima...al-colors.html

      
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