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03-27-2020 , 06:56 AM
never used this stuff so i don't even know! don't even have the comp capable of it yet, just looking into it.
the more ram the better seems to be the take away message so i'll start there. thanks
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03-27-2020 , 09:08 AM
Thinking of just buying my own server.


Would something like a PowerEdge R710 w/ 2x Hex core processors and 128gb ram be a good starting point? Not really looking to get into too complex spots but would like to do some preflop solving.


Thanks for your help
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03-27-2020 , 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by numberonedonk
Thinking of just buying my own server.


Would something like a PowerEdge R710 w/ 2x Hex core processors and 128gb ram be a good starting point? Not really looking to get into too complex spots but would like to do some preflop solving.


Thanks for your help
yes, this one should be good for solving preflop spots
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03-27-2020 , 05:13 PM
Great, thank you for all your help.
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03-28-2020 , 07:51 PM
Hey,

I bought 3 Way Solver. I could do some solves, but now if I try to solve wider ranges it goes to calculate and then to error. Does that mean that I have not enough power/ram for this spot? Got 18gb ram on my pc, so on the lower side for 3way.

My settings are ESCFR Flop/A2 Turn-River with low accuracy. Whats the best setting if I try to make it work somehow?

Sorry if this has been much asked question already
Thanks!
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03-30-2020 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by LOLBOBDYLAN
Hey,

I bought 3 Way Solver. I could do some solves, but now if I try to solve wider ranges it goes to calculate and then to error. Does that mean that I have not enough power/ram for this spot? Got 18gb ram on my pc, so on the lower side for 3way.

My settings are ESCFR Flop/A2 Turn-River with low accuracy. Whats the best setting if I try to make it work somehow?

Sorry if this has been much asked question already
Thanks!
Hello!

What error do you get? If you get connection timeout error then try to increase Calculation Timeout parameter in the settings.

Also, you could try to simplify trees for turns and river while solving flop, to reduce complexity of the calculation
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03-30-2020 , 01:02 PM
Hello everyone!

We present you global update of Simple Preflop Holdem v2.0

First of all, I would like to draw attention to the fact that from this day the pricing policy regarding the program is changing. Now the Simple Preflop Holdem license can be purchased for $250 per 1 PC/1 Year - you can do this on our website

People who purchased a license earlier will automatically receive a license in the new version for 2 years for free, and will also be able to roll back to the previous version and in older versions will be able to use a lifetime license.

We ask everyone to treat these changes with understanding, in order to support and further develop the program, we are forced to change the approach to licensing.

List of changes in the new version:

1. A new approach to bucketing has been implemented, which is currently considered the most advanced. In order to use new buckets in your calculations, you need to download them by clicking on the "+" button in the calculation settings menu:

New bucketing is made on a combination of all kinds pairs of hands and boards. New buckets allow you to get more accurate calculation results using less RAM and perform faster calculation.
2. For old bucket removed the ability to perform calculations with "None" textures, the minimum textures for calculations using old bucketing is Perfect-Small-Small
3. Added the ability to perform calculations with Knockouts (including progressive ones). In order to perform calculations with knockouts, it is necessary to select the ICM model, activate the checkbox "Knockout", indicate the % for bounty which is paid when a player is knocked out (100% for regular bounty tournaments, 50% for standard progressive knockout tournaments), and then indicate the size of the bounty per each player.


4. Added the ability to charge preflop rake without going to postflop (such rules applied in some offline games and in some poker rooms). In order for preflop rake to be taken into account, you must activate the “Preflop Rake From Pot” checkbox and set the size of the pot, exceeding which will activate the rake accounting. For example, to take into account the rake model that is used in the GG Network, you need to specify 2.5 (if your tree is built in big blinds):

5. There is an opportunity in the calculation process to dump it. This functionality is intended for the case if you need to stop the calculation and you want to resume it later from the moment you stopped. To do this, click Dump:

After which the calculation can be stopped by the Stop button. To start the calculation from the same moment when Dump was made, you need to open it through the menu File -> Open Dump.

6. There are additional options in the sizing settings menu that simplify the construction of trees on the preflop:

"Without preflop 3-bet + cold-calls" - preflop cold-calls of 3-bets, 4-bets, ... are removed from the tree of bets
"Without any preflop raise after call" - if the player played call, then preflop raises will be removed for him in the futher branches of tree
"Only Fold if 2+ Raises after call" - if after a player’s call there were 2 or more raises, he will always fold preflop
7. The scaling of the interface on high-resolution screens has been improved, a dark theme has been added (to switch to it, you must go to the Display -> Theme -> Dark menu):


8. Added support of ranges in pio and ppt format.
9. Now you can open/save 2/3-way spots from Simple Preflop Holdem to Simple 3-Way, for this you need to right-click on a branch in the preflop tree, which is a transition to the 2/3-way postflop spot.

10. Added the ability to remove all alternative top-level branches that do not lead to the selected one - "cut parent nodes"

after you apply the option:

11. Added support for using more than 64 threads of processor
12. Minor improvements and bug fixes

To discuss the program, join our discord chat server: https://discord.gg/RhpgpBS
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03-30-2020 , 05:24 PM
So if I just bought simple preflop a few days ago, I will have lifetime access to version 1 and have 2 years of access to version 2 starting today?
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03-30-2020 , 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by numberonedonk
So if I just bought simple preflop a few days ago, I will have lifetime access to version 1 and have 2 years of access to version 2 starting today?
yes, you are right
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03-30-2020 , 09:07 PM
hi TeelXp,

i just updated to the new version of simple preflop and switched the theme to dark mode but the color gradient thats used to identify frequencies is very hard to see on the lower frequency combos.

https://i.imgur.com/jnXVDal.png

A3s is at 6.74% but i can barely see it. same with K5s, A3s 66, 77, 76s and 54s

Also some of the font scaling doesnt match with the size of the window - https://i.imgur.com/tREQSwS.png

i cant see the EV of the Action without sliding the Action tab all the way to the left to the point that i cant read what the action is.

Also i just noticed that my version of the dark theme uses a different color scheme than the screen shots that you posted above do. Is there a setting option to configure dark theme mode that i am not seeing? Also the stack sizes seems to only be able to display 3 numbers before the decimal so it cuts off stack sizes above 1000 - https://i.imgur.com/wB0yOOs.png

Last edited by Quanny; 03-30-2020 at 09:16 PM. Reason: added screen shot
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03-31-2020 , 10:32 AM
Hello!
Quote:
i just updated to the new version of simple preflop and switched the theme to dark mode but the color gradient thats used to identify frequencies is very hard to see on the lower frequency combos.

https://i.imgur.com/jnXVDal.png

A3s is at 6.74% but i can barely see it. same with K5s, A3s 66, 77, 76s and 54s
you could change colors by left-click on the square with color and could make it look this way:

this is how color picker looks like:

Quote:
Also some of the font scaling doesnt match with the size of the window - https://i.imgur.com/tREQSwS.png
i cant see the EV of the Action without sliding the Action tab all the way to the left to the point that i cant read what the action is.
you could change scale of the interface and size of font in the Display Menu:



You need to configure colors in dark theme on your own.
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03-31-2020 , 01:54 PM
Is there any easy way to set preflop bet sizes? Like 2.2x open, 3.5x 3b, etc?

I watched video and it said to use % of pot and just mess with it till you get size you want but seems like it should be easier.

Big fan of the program and really like the new update, dark mode is really nice.

One request would be to change number of threads when resuming a dump. I'm running a spot now that will take a few days and would be nice to back down the threads used during the day so I can use computer and still run it in background. My server will be here next week so not that big of a deal but others may find it useful.

Thank you for all your help
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03-31-2020 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by numberonedonk
Is there any easy way to set preflop bet sizes? Like 2.2x open, 3.5x 3b, etc?

I watched video and it said to use % of pot and just mess with it till you get size you want but seems like it should be easier.

Big fan of the program and really like the new update, dark mode is really nice.

One request would be to change number of threads when resuming a dump. I'm running a spot now that will take a few days and would be nice to back down the threads used during the day so I can use computer and still run it in background. My server will be here next week so not that big of a deal but others may find it useful.

Thank you for all your help
we have Raise X feature only in the menu of Raises; for first bet you could use Fixed sizing bet (1.2 for 2.2x open, 2.5 for 3.5x open)

i will discuss request about number of threads with developer
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03-31-2020 , 08:03 PM
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04-02-2020 , 12:51 AM
do you have an idea why i keep getting this message? Super weird.
https://gyazo.com/839275d5fa4b5a6180a4c0a3dc20c0ac
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04-03-2020 , 09:39 AM
Have SimplePreflop setup on server and has wondering why it's taking so for "sending" when about to calculate? It's taking upwards of 30 mins, if not longer and I'm wondering if it's my computer or just because tree is so large. Hardwired connection so don't think internet is issue.



Thanks
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04-04-2020 , 11:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by numberonedonk
Have SimplePreflop setup on server and has wondering why it's taking so for "sending" when about to calculate? It's taking upwards of 30 mins, if not longer and I'm wondering if it's my computer or just because tree is so large. Hardwired connection so don't think internet is issue.



Thanks
Awesome update for simple preflop holdem. Keep it up guys! It really helps with building a tree. (Before it would take me a whole day to manually do it).
Now with automatically removing preflop backraises/coldcalls it is so much easier.

Can you explain more regarding the new bucketing setup? Are textures no longer needed? Also, which would have superior accuracy?

river: 100k downloaded new buckets (uses 205gb ram total)
vs
river: 34_1 old buckets (uses 238gb ram total)

Using all maxed out downloaded new buckets 10k flop, 100k turn, 100k river, I'm only able to top out at 205gb ram total out of my 256gb system, would like to use the remaining ram if possible, but don't want to lose accuracy if old method is worse. Perhaps you could allow for larger more customizable downloadable buckets?





Btw... Also noticing that sending is taking a long time with my 6 max tree.

Thank you again for all the updates. Awesome software!

Last edited by HappyLuckBox; 04-04-2020 at 11:25 PM.
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04-04-2020 , 11:44 PM
Just updated Simple Preflop and now it does not work - distorted UI and nothing works when I click on , installed and reinstalled several times( nothing helps):


I am running win10 and it was running just fine before
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04-06-2020 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by gruja_machko
do you have an idea why i keep getting this message? Super weird.
https://gyazo.com/839275d5fa4b5a6180a4c0a3dc20c0ac
everytime we update simple gto trainer, we send it to microsoft security check.
this is an example of the results of check (we also post it to our website in the news section):

you could also check our files on the virustotal website to be sure that it is virus free

you need to click actions->allow to start using app. some antiviruses think that there might be virus, cause we use code protection system, that encrypts some parts of code.
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04-06-2020 , 08:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by numberonedonk
Have SimplePreflop setup on server and has wondering why it's taking so for "sending" when about to calculate? It's taking upwards of 30 mins, if not longer and I'm wondering if it's my computer or just because tree is so large. Hardwired connection so don't think internet is issue.



Thanks
sending means loading the tree into the RAM. so, if the tree is large, it could take much time
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04-06-2020 , 08:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stumbras
Just updated Simple Preflop and now it does not work - distorted UI and nothing works when I click on , installed and reinstalled several times( nothing helps):


I am running win10 and it was running just fine before
could you try to change scale and font settings in the display menu? it should help
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04-06-2020 , 08:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HappyLuckBox
Awesome update for simple preflop holdem. Keep it up guys! It really helps with building a tree. (Before it would take me a whole day to manually do it).
Now with automatically removing preflop backraises/coldcalls it is so much easier.

Can you explain more regarding the new bucketing setup? Are textures no longer needed? Also, which would have superior accuracy?

river: 100k downloaded new buckets (uses 205gb ram total)
vs
river: 34_1 old buckets (uses 238gb ram total)

Using all maxed out downloaded new buckets 10k flop, 100k turn, 100k river, I'm only able to top out at 205gb ram total out of my 256gb system, would like to use the remaining ram if possible, but don't want to lose accuracy if old method is worse. Perhaps you could allow for larger more customizable downloadable buckets?





Btw... Also noticing that sending is taking a long time with my 6 max tree.

Thank you again for all the updates. Awesome software!
new one should be more accurate. this bucketing is made over pairs of all possible hands and boards; texturing could applied only for previous approach.
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04-07-2020 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by gruja_machko
do you have an idea why i keep getting this message? Super weird.
https://gyazo.com/839275d5fa4b5a6180a4c0a3dc20c0ac
Many users faced to this issue today. We did a minor update of the program in the beginning of month, which optimizes the training process from the inside and occasionally did not submit it for verification to Microsoft, so windows detected the presence of a virus in this version. Now we have sent the current version for verification, no viruses have been detected in it, Windows should stop issuing this warning.

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04-08-2020 , 09:11 AM
Hi Teel

can simple preflop make full use of 16 cores / 32 threads or should I just look for a 10 core / 20 thread cpu instead?

when it comes to ram usage, I'm not looking to solve the whole cash 6m model, rather nodelock and solve specific 3b/4b/5b games and 3-4 max players model to a greater extent. Would you say 32gb ram would be comfortable or do you encourage 64?

Ty
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04-09-2020 , 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ionutd
Hi Teel

can simple preflop make full use of 16 cores / 32 threads or should I just look for a 10 core / 20 thread cpu instead?

when it comes to ram usage, I'm not looking to solve the whole cash 6m model, rather nodelock and solve specific 3b/4b/5b games and 3-4 max players model to a greater extent. Would you say 32gb ram would be comfortable or do you encourage 64?

Ty
Hello!

Yes, Simple Preflop Holdem could use unlimited number of threads. The more powerful processor you have, the faster the process of solving tree will occur.

You could build trees even in free version of Simple Preflop Holdem and see how much RAM they require with different solving parameters. More RAM allows to solve more complex trees with lower abstraction level.
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