For various reasons, I am stranded away from home during Covid lockdown without access to a suitable computer for running a solver.

I'd like to install a solver on a cloud windows instance - maybe a r5ad.large on AWS.

Is there a reason that this won't work?

If I install on a cloud instance, can I move the licence to another (dedicated?) server if/when I have access to one?

Is there a preferred server type to use?

Is there a preferred cloud provider to use?

I'm not official support, I have just looked into this previously and will tell you what I have found.

AWS will probably not be cost efficient. I remember it being like $3/hr for something with a good amount of RAM.

Contabo servers will be much more cost efficient. Starting at $100/month depending on what you need.

Alternatively you could always buy your own server. If you know about AWS I would assume you're not a tech noob and could get that working. I got one recently from server monkey for just under $500 w/ 96gb RAM and 2x Hex Core Xeons and it does everything I need it to.

related Q, would a non-tech guy be better off renting a contabo server (or whatever else), or buying a suitable computer setup?
i had assumed buying a powerful enough comp was the only option since i know nothing about renting servers or how that works

According to https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/on-demand/, the machine I am looking at is 22cents per hour for time that it is switched on.

That is very different from $100 per month if I am careful to turn it off when I am not using it.

Unofficial support, and may be incorrect. Just trying to help out.




I think it comes down to personal preference and what you plan on doing. I'm running large preflop sims around the clock so and will be doing so for quite some time so it seemed more cost efficient for me to buy my own server.


I would cost me about $180 a month to rent the server I wanted and instead I just bought one for about $450. The caveat being that mine does not have as much RAM and is slightly slower but I can add more RAM for reasonable price at any time and currently I have enough.



I'm more of a DIY'er and into tech so it seemed like buying my own was the right move and I'm more than happy with my decision a week or so later.




That seems to have 2x vCPU's, 16gb ram, 75gb ssd.


4 threads will be slow


16gb will limit tree size for preflop stuff but should be enough for a lot of stuff.



75gb will run out of room eventually unless you move stuff to another drive.


Lets back up though, what kind of spots are you looking to run? Basic postflop/preflop stuff or complex spots with different sizings and what not?

Sorry to bother you Teel, but I currently have limited time and knowledge on how to properly build trees so can I please ask you to give me a (ballpark) number for ram realistically needed to solve:

1) utg 6m 150x deep, utg opens, hj 3bets a locked range, everybody else folds, looking for utg's response, medium accuracy, using the new bucket system

2) co opens, btn 3b, bb cold calls a locked range, 200x deep, same accuracy, both co and btn responses

just your best guess if I will need to use more than 32gb of ram to solve any of the above examples please

ty so much <3

What is the difference between escfr and cscfr? Is 1 algorithm advantageous or preferred over the other, and in what situations?


Also, in comparing strategies between 6max 100bb monkersolver solutions and SPH, I'm seeing a general trend where SPH recommends a much wider preflop RFI range from all positions (about 2% wider). For example, Monker has Cutoff opening about 28%, SPH has Cutoff opening 30%.

Curious why SPH has recommended a wider strategy, and if anybody else has noticed this?

I'd also like to throw in my ideas for a few suggestions to improve SPH.

-Option to use a smaller sizing for 5bets vs 4bets vs 3bets. Right now we have to set a single raise size that often works well for 3betting, but may be a little too large for 4bets or greater.

-Option to use a smaller vs bigger 3bet, 4bet, etc size depending on OOP vs IP vs remaining villian.

-Option to use the minimum raise size that doesnt force us to pot commit preflop.
(Ie With 1k effective stacks, I have a situation where UTG opens 25, HJ calls, CO calls, BTN 3bets to 110, SB 4bets too large. It would be great if SB could use a more normal size here like 300 or even a minraise (195) that allows SB to fold vs shove.)
This could be setup so that when SPH detects that the default raise sizing has the player putting in between 33%-99% of his stack, SPH will instead opt to use either Minraise or Jam Sizing.

These options would allow us to easily setup the preflop game tree to be more comparable to natural human tendencies.

Thank you for all the continuous updates! I'm really starting to love this software!

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For Simple Postflop and/or Simple 3way, I was wondering if there is anyway possible to quickly change the suits on the flop once the sim is complete?

For example, one of my solutions reads 7d3c2c, but I'd like to quickly change the suits to 7h3s2s without rerunning the sim.

The reason I ask is because I'm currently working on solving all 1755 strategically different flops in a certain situation so that I can quickly glance at the solution while playing, but it can often be confusing checking the sim in real time if the suits don't match. Having the option to quickly alter the suits on the fly (shouldn't change solution) to more easily cross reference in real time would be much appreciated!

Currently it seems piosolver does not offer this capability, so I would be interested in purchasing Simple Post Flop and Simple 3 way if this functionality is possible.

Maybe it's possible to use the 1755 suit symmetric flop database and somehow create the true 22100 flop database with solutions intact?
The flop database I'm using always has diamonds, clubs, and then hearts as the offsuit card, with spades completing the rainbow on turns/rivers.

Nvm, I was able to figure it out with the help of Vitaly!

anybody?

if i rent a server, can i do that on any old computer? like it doesn't matter what my home setup is, because the server is from elsewhere? and i'll have access to it from my computer? does it matter if it's used from my pc or laptop?

sorry totally clueless about this stuff

As long as you have access to a server running Windows you will be fine. Home computer is irrelevant as like you said, everything will be done on server.

so i could set up, and use, the server from a mac laptop cuz it doesn't make a difference as it's a remote server?

sounds alot better to rent a server for 100ish/month than spending 5k on a super powerful setup

thanks for your help

Correct, just need to be able to connect to server and you're good.


You can get a computer that will run sims for way less than $5k. My server was just under $500 and will run about anything I through at it except for deep full ring preflop stuff. I could always add more RAM if I wanted. I priced out a desktop PC the other day that would be good and it was under $2000 with 128gb ram.



If you just plan on tinkering with it for a month or so, rent a server but if you plan on running sims for a while I would consider getting your own computer. You can also always sell it down the road should you not need it anymore.

You seem to be very knowledgeable on the subject so I'm asking you if you think renting a contabo server with 2x Intel Xeon E5 2630v4 (10 x 2.20 GHz) and 256gb RAM is a good investment for preflop sims and postflop scenarios?

Or am I better off spending ~3k on a good PC?

The Contabo server is certainly a good investment. You are getting a super powerful computer that will handle just about anything you throw at it. I believe it will cost about $2200 a year with Windows license.


$3k home server/computer may be the better investment if you plan on running sims for the foreseeable future. Some preflop sims may take weeks to run so if you have a lot of stuff you want to run, it may take you some time. You can also resell your computer/server should you not need it anymore.


Downside to running own computer/server is cost of electricity which could be $20 a month depending on what you have and where you live. If you get an actual server, they can also be quite loud so make sure you have somewhere to stick it where it won't bother you.



For me it was easy to decide to go with my own server because I'm a more hands on person and did not want to have to worry about Contabo issues. I also only spent $500 and while it's not as powerful as the Contabo you listed, it's powerful enough for the time being and was more cost efficient than renting a server for me.


So really it's up to you, they are both good investments and will be beneficial if you use them. Maybe start out with a Contabo server and then if it's something you think you will use a lot, look into getting your own.

I just thought of this which may help you. Download the Simple Preflop trial, build some trees and see how much ram you need. If you aren't doing deep stack stuff, a mid-range PC may work. I'm running 8 max 20bbs sims with limp, min, and all in sizings as well as flats/jams behind and have plenty of power on my desktop to do so. I think it only needed 6gb of ram.


tl;dr - build the trees in the trial and see what you will need

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Someone in the topic has unanswered actual questions?

for renting a contabo server they have a bunch of upgrades and features as optional purchases, i assume i need the optional windows server to run SP from a mac but anyone know if i need any of the others?

hard disk, admin panel, data safety...i dont know what most of the options are or what they're for or if i need them. am i fine w just the server itself and windows OS? or does something there make life alot easier?

What sort of bucketing are you using for that? RAM usage seems insanely small, so I'm just wondering if it has a big EV loss compared to higher accuracy solutions.

I downloaded the software just to play around with building some trees, but there's no clear indication that I've seen of what sort of differences there are between the buckets. For example, what's the EV loss between using 1000 or 10000 buckets on the flop? Or 5000 and 100000 on the river? What about number of iterations?

Would be interested to know if anyone has done some testing on this topic.

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anyone using simple omaha, what ranges are you inputting for preflop ranges?

i ran my first sim w 90% for IP and 70%-20% for bb just to give me an idea. i want a more accurate range for bb but don't know where i would get that from but i assume there's a better way than manually writing it out....

Hi,

I have a hardware question regarding Simple Preflop. I am looking at buying the preflop solver and this is my current PC setup:

i9-7980XE
64GB RAM

What kind of solve time should I be expecting for preflop 1 size rfi, 1 size 3bet solutions for 6max with my PC? Is it worth it for me to invest in some virtual machine with better hardware?