For those who aren't aware, we have Total VPP statistics available for free download at https://www.pokertracker.com/custom/share - if you were one of the first 8 or 10 people who downloaded the version uploaded by StevenM there was a small issue in it - please redownload the version uploaded by me, it will fix those problems.

Regarding VPP/hand, grab the total VPP stat and import it. Then click Configure --> Statistics, and find the VPP stat (either in $ or T, Player Stats). Click on the stat and click the Duplicate button. Change the name/description/title how you'd like (the name needs to be different that's all that really matters). Change the value expression to read:
amt_vpps / cnt_hands

Save your stat, and you're done. You can add it to any report straight away and you'll see your average VPPs per hand.

Found another bug.

Playing around with the Holdem Hand Range visualizer. I filtered for Cold Called 2Bet preflop % and noticed that I had CC'd with AKs....thinking that was extremely odd I clicked on AKs and saw that there was only 1 hand where this occured. I reviewed the hand and find that I actually had called 4 Bets cold (this is LHE) since 4 bets is a cap. I am assuming this means there is an issue with how you are calculating cold call 2 bet %?

Please send us a copy of this hand for investigation, thanks. Follow these instructions to submit the hand - https://www.pokertracker.com/guides/...support-ticket

I need help fine tuning my ptr4 hud and confirmation that I am interpreting certain stats correctly.

I am aware this might not be EXACTLY what this thread is for, but there is no other place I can find to ask for this. I love ptr4 and I use it alot and intend to buy it once its out of beta.

Hi guys I am a live player trying to make the transition to online 6max 25nl cash so I dont have very much experience with pokertracker4 yet. Let me say that I am NOT lazy and have done considerable research on my own I just want to make sure I fine tune my hud for what and how I play.

Right now I am basically using the default settings for cash and I have noticed atleast in my opinion that %player lets you steal their blinds isnt shown by default along with several other stats that I THINK might be important but im not certain.

I was wondering if any poker enthusiast would mind sharing their knowledge with me about which stats are best to display for 6 max 25nl cash and in which orders. It would also be WONDERFUL if you have already configured your profile and could provide a way for me to import your custom settings (colors positions stats shown ect).

Again I HAVE spent atleast 10 hours on my own before comming here and asking for help. I have looked through the program and have ideas on what to do I just take poker very seriously and would like confirmation thatI am

1. showing the right stats on my ptr4 hud for my specific game type (6max cash micro stakes).

2. interpreting those stats correctly and understanding FULLY what they mean and how the meanings and numbers vary depending on stake levels.

3. Seeing if thre is some way I can make it easier to automatically switch the hud stats to the proper seats when i switch seats on the Americas Card Room software. Right now when I move seats it switches all the stats around and then I have to move them all back to proper names its just a little annoying on multiple tables!

I have understandings of things I just need a few minutes of guiding and confirming that I am on the right track. If you can PLEASE take even 15 minutes of your time to talk to me on skype or ventrillo (i have my own server) or over the phone and just confirm some stuff about pokertracker4's hud and interpreting more advanced hud stats in general I would be most greatful.

It would be so much faster then waiting on message boards and not only that I am kind of seeking friends in the online poker or poker tracker community none of my real life friends or family understand why I like poker so much. I talk to them about poker and they get bored and its not an engaging conversation. So even if you arnt an expert but know slightly more then the basics feel free to contact me via Private message where I will give you my contact info.

I look forward to being a part of the 2 plus 2 community and the pokertracker ocmmunity for a long time and hopefully making a few poker friends. I am the type of person who passes the knowledge along. So by helping me your helping others too.

If you dont want to take the time to talk thats cool too. Any info posted in this thread is greatly appreciated even if its like "heres how I do it figure out why I have it this way for yourself" atleast I would have something to compare my set up to. Or maybe a link that I have been unable to find that u think might be helpful.

Thanks in advance guys!

Have you tried the Micro NL Forum?

I have a new computer coming tomorrow or the next day and while I am very excited, I was wondering how I am going to transfer across my database?

Is there a quick and easy way to do this?

Also license codes. I believe I have used my two license codes for pt3 (I have had it since 2009) Once on an old broken laptop that no longer even switches on, and the other on my current computer. Will I have to purchase an entirely new copy of PT3/4 or will I be able to reuse a license code.

Lastly, I played on party poker for the first time yesterday for their poker fest thing and despite having the party gaming import running through the pt4 interface with "get hands whilst playing" checked and hand histories being saved to the relevant folder etc, I couldn't get the hud to pop up nor were the hand histories popping up when I clicked view import.

Any ideas?

PT4 please add player analysis feature like in HM2, probably won't buy your software without such a crucial data analyst edge.

Click File --> Backup and back everything in the system up. Copy the zip file it creates onto your new machine. Install PokerTracker on your new system, then click File --> Restore and choose that Zip file. PokerTracker will take care of the rest for you!

You can still use your registration code on your new machine. If an old machine is no longer in use at all we detect that and your use on that machine will not count against you.

Regarding Party - are you on a Mac? If so you need to use their in-browser option; the downloadable beta Party client is not yet supported.

I have to admit that this is definitely one feature that I would like to see also.

I keep going back and forth between the two platforms and i find PT4 to be winning, but missing some key features that I don't want to give up from HEM.

1) The ability to track my bonuses.
2) The ability to track RB (Yes, I have a custom stat, but it applies the rules of 1 site to every site I play on. I know they worry about some potential flaws as it relates to tourneys, but this works for cash games and should be easy to implement. It needs to be done imo)
3) Player analyis as mentioned by OP.
4) Current session results with graph showing BB's won/lost (or winnings). Play Poker tab doesn't cut it fully for me, and you cannot break down below current day's hands if you play multiple sessions in a day.

There are likely a few others that I am leaving out. With that all said though if you put a gun to my head and forced me to make a purchase decision today I would buy PT4. But if HEM fixes a few of the bugs that are really affecting me that could change if the list above is not ddressed by PT.

Thanks for this. However I am not on a Mac.

This thread is for supporting the PokerTracker 4 Public Beta, it helps us find bungs and answer questions about functionality. For stat interpretation we sugest asking questions in the PokerTracker.com forums, the microstakes NL or beginner forums here on 2+2, or in the forums of your preferred coaching company. You might be surprised how personal and subjective some stat chices are, you can start with the default PokerTracker 4 HUD profiles and reports but many people choose to customize their selections.

Feel free to ask us any technical questions, we would love to help!

Two things everyone who is working with the PT4 Beta should know about our company.

1) PokerTracker prefers to innovate rather than copy whenever possible. PT has been innovating for 11 years, we are the first tracking company, first HUD, etc etc etc.
2) We don't respond that well to "do this or I won't buy your software" posts. We need compelling reasons to add a feature.

If you have a good idea that can help PokerTracker users then we want to hear it! But if the idea is to copy someone else's work without any other insight, then chances are it is something we will not pay attention to. Be creative, think outside the box, give us a compelling reason to add a feature - and we will stand at attention while taking notes about your vision.

PokerTracker 4's entire interface was designed thanks to the feedback of users like you, step up to the plate, we will listen!

Did you follow the PartyPoker guide? https://www.pokertracker.com/guides/...guration-guide

1) We have a bonus tracking solution that has been worked on in concept, but not yet developed. I ont know when/if this will be added... but I can assure you that the concept blows away anything you have previously seen. If we implement our idea, it would be at a similar caliber as our currency solution. Thats all we can offer for now, we have a long way to go, lots of features will be added to PT4 after it is commercially released too, we don't stop!

2) We just added a custom stat to track PokerStars VPPs (VIP Player Points), and we intend to add more custom stats for rakeback tracking as time allows for each site! The one size fits all rakeback model that some of our competitors use does not work once you play on more than one poker site, this is yet another reason why the PokerTracker custom stats system is far superior to anything else on the market today. Did you know that you can graph your custom rakeback stats alongside your personal results?

3) More details please, we need specifics. "Copy player analysis from HEM" doesn't cut it, any idea proposed must work within the PokerTracker ecosystem. Thnx!

4) What you are asking for is essentially "Todays Hands" with a graph that automatically refreshes, but unfortunately that would not be possible. Our graphs use a third party tool set that allows us to develop graphs quickly so we don't have to spend months on end coding a graphing system from scratch. The database queries we use for these graphs require a complete pull from the database, the graphing system is not designed to update as new data points come in, the queries must run again from the start. Therefore we sugest you filter to the current session in the Results report, and click the Refresh button every time you wish to view your graph. On a related note, you would be surprised at how many requests we get for blocking graphs completely, many players do not want to know their results mid-session.

Hope this helps!

- TT

Q about NoteTracker....

I've managed to build a series of stats to show me preflop hand ranges based on certain actions (Button open, CO open etc)....what I am trying to figure out is wether the system can tell me anything about post flop hand strength ranges (obv we had to get to showdown for the sample) and how I go about setting up a note that shows that.

Example:

LHE

Hand Strength distribution when c/r turn

Is this something that is doable?

antneye,

We don't have a variable for that. We considered it in the initial phases, but we ended up not implementing it because it was very difficult to do two things:

(1) Display exactly the gradations that people want. (Do you want top pair to be its own gradation or top pair and a flush draw to be its own? Do you want top pair with a gutshot to be its own gradation? What about second pair with a draw? Should board trips be different than a flopped set?)

and

(2) Displaying the gradations in an easily readable fashion. Something like: Check/raised the turn with {Middle Set (2), Bottom Set (1), Trips Second Kicker (1), Trips Fifth Kicker (1), Nut Full House (1), Non-Nut Full House (3), Top Pair Top Kicker (4), Two Pair (5)} is a large and unpleasant reading experience when trying to play. (Note: this range was entirely made up by me for the purposes of explaining this issue!)

After much careful consideration, we decided that it would not be feasible to make this work in a fashion which would make for a better playing experience - imagine 6 notes like described above. It would be a real mess!

Changed from € to $. Estimated Time is a wee bit off.

Edit: The above message box closed after 2 minutes but the Currency Dialog has been sitting there for a while now. It says "Populating..." in the sessions grid and thats it.

elcid,

Try refreshing the box, populating means that the query finished (otherwise it would be Loading), so in this case a refresh might help.

understood. Can you explain then how the post flop variables work? I don't recall seeing examples of notes that use them. Maybe some context will help me to come up with some creative ways to use them.

Thanks!

I guess you are top marketing man TT, so I imagine you'd love for everyone to "know" these "things" - but I wish this rose-coloured truth-stretched rewriting of history wouldn't happen, or at least not happen quite so often. very little in the above sentence is entirely accurate imo.

dave - First commercially successful. Typed while on a plane, I agree that should have been clarified. Perhaps you did not know that this the same team that created PokerAce HUD?

Of course I know this is the PA-HUD team, I was active here at the time, and an early adopter / happy customer of that product.

Is the tracking of PT4 for tournamentresults good?

I've got a 7 million hand database running on a SSD and am having trouble with very slow reports.

When i do a simple report on the results tab, using summary and position for todays hands it is taking several minutes to load up a summary of 7000 hands, is this normal on a large databse ? The same query on the same database runs instantly on my HEM1 databse.

Thanks

What was the thought process behind not having dedicated stats for 3bet pots? Just wondering why you would want to lump 4 and 5bet (and more) pots in with 3bet pots for flop cbet, fold to flop cbet etc

Sure, the {board-x} variables give you the board cards at the time of a specific action. For example you might write a note like:
Check/Raises with a naked flush draw on {board-flop}
and see a note on someone like:
Check/Raises with a naked flush draw on {8s Ts 5c}

We think so

We've tried our hardest to improve tournament detection in PT4 and we're confident it's the best software on the market overall in that area.

We are aware of some issues relating to queries using dates, and we have some fixes in the pipeline to make them much, much faster.

We did significant research and talked to many people in the business and it was the model that everyone seemed most happy with.

In the hud -> item properties -> show times/opportunities is there a way to make this conditional so it only shows the number of opportunities if its below a user defined number. Knowing someone has a cbet of 70% (14/20) is useful, but when it get to 70% (140/200) I don't need the sample size anymore.

PT4 is streets ahead of the competition for tracking tourney results and providing some degree of post game analysis. However, imo, none of the current crop of trackers are particularly good at providing tourney support during a game.