VPIP is Voluntarily Put Money in the Pot from either SB or BB which will mean the VPIP is for both SB and BB and not SB alone.

I'm was after the SB VPIP on its on or have i misunderstood this?


Also i don't know what you mean by Positional Property i could not find this in the HUD Profile Editor

actually this is what i read and am after

You are misunderstanding how to use PokerTracker 4, but you are not misunderstanding that you should look at stats positionally - not just VPIP.

I advise starting with this very basic guide: https://www.pokertracker.com/guides/...#using-the-hud

As you can see from the image below, PokerTracker 4 already includes the SB and BB position for VPIP broken out into all HUDs. In reports you can do this by using a Position report.



Next I advise reviewing the Advanced HUD Guide for greater insight into the HUD Profile editor, so you can learn how to adjust any stat property - including position.

https://www.pokertracker.com/guides/...nced-hud-guide
- TT

I know how to adjust stats in the HUD Profile editor, and also how to use the pop up you posted but i prefer to see the stats while playing instead of bringing up the pop up

So the VPIP is not the correct stat i am after as i mentioned as its including both SB and BB

Do you have a SB VPIP stat? As i play Heads up and i prefer this stat over the VPIP



EDIT it looks like Raise first in is the same as HM2 SB VPIP?

How likely is it that u get PT4 mac version to work with Zoom/Rush/Snap in the future for cash games? I'd really like to see this

I'm afraid you still do not understand. There HUD Profile Editor is used both for Popups and also the on-table HUD, there is no difference. The stats used in both Popups and the On Table HUD groups Please review the guides we provided, they will explain this in an easy to understand way. Stats use the Position Property to define the position, consider it a filter for that specific position. So using the VPIP example, if you set the position property for Small Blind, then the stat will only show data from the Small Blind position. The Position Property allows us to turn each stat into 6 sub-stats, defined for each position.



That is incorrect, it does not include both SB & BB. VPIP alone without a positional property would cover all positions, but we have no VPIP stats for just SB & BB. As explained above, you can define the SB or BB position to VPIP.

Raise first in is a measurement of Preflop raising, not VPIP. The SB could limp in, thats VPIP is important to have. We advise using both RFI and VPIP or PFR and VPIP separated out to the SB and the BB while playing HU games.

- TT

Very unlikely for ZOOM & RUSH. We have no way of determining the name of each player as they are seated in OSX. We tried every known method, none of them work with a reasonable success rate. Some people ask us why we don't use OCR, truth is we found that OCR was not reliable enough to use, it was too easy to get faulty data - a risk we cannot take. Unfortunately the methods we use for Windows would not work in OSX, the operating systems are vastly different.

SNAP is a different situation. 888 provides a player positioning data file to allow PokerTracker to know which player is seated at each table at the start of the hand while playing SNAP tournaments. 888 does not want this data to be available for cash games, therefore we cannot support SNAP cash games with a HUD - but we can import the hands from SNAP sessions. If you want 888 to allow HUDs on SNAP cash games, please contact your 888 support representative to let them know your opinion -it might be something they reconsider in the future.

- TT

OK I get the VIPIP position property adjustment now, English if not my first language my bad

thank you

are the Session Stats available in the replayer? as i cant see them there

Yes. They are available by right clicking on any individual player, or you can switch the entire table via the PT4 HUD Menu within the table itself.

- TT

It was available before but now its not maybe i clicked something?






Also if i right click on the players name nothing happens no option to change to session

The menus you are showing are from the Replayer, not the in-game table. The Replayer has different options available that the in-game table provides because the Replayer can offer a vastly different set of tools than we can offer in-game.

1) In game the PT4 HUD Menu offers the ability to switch the entire table to Table Session stats. This option is not in the replayer - instead we offer the ability to show lifetime or Stats at the time of the hand separately for the HERO and the Opponents in the Replayer.

2) Right click on any player's HUD in the Replayer EXCEPT FOR THE HERO to see the Table Session Stats menu. We don't offer this for the HERO because the HERO always shows either table session stats or lifetime stats in the replayer - this differs from the other players.



3) In game while playing we add the option to switch the entire table to Table Session Stats from the PT4 HUD Menu (the PT4 chip icon), and you can also right click on each player's table to switch them individually.

- TT

Can someone explain how to interpret "My C All-In Adj" on PT4 graph. What does it mean? The last 5k hands mine says $239.84, but I have "My C Won" 483.61.

https://www.pokertracker.com/guides/...-equity-graphs

They key to remember is that All-In Equity is a measurement of expectation, it is not a measurement of luck. All-In Adjusted Winnings is a conversion of All-In Equity into tournament Expectation by using ICM to convert the value of each chip into it's equivalent currency value at that point in the tournament, this can only be done at the final table.

- TT

I do not play tournaments, so I am confused here

Thanks for the link,

So what I gather is that the yellow line show what I should be making when I get it all in before the river. And my green line shows exactly what profit I made.

Is it accurate that my green line minus my yellow equals my red line???

just a bit confused because in 1) you say they are but in 2) you say there not?

basically so i dont confuse it even more

i know the session stats are available while playing in a game but are they available in the replayer (not in game) when i want to do a after game review?

Also I am not interested in the measurement of luck vs expectation. I'm interested in extrapolating the "All-In Adjusted" stat over my 500,000+ hands of cash games, to see if I am +EV getting it in or -EV in the long run. I.E> if my yellow line is positive then I am making profitable decisions.

Thanks

All-In Equity is displayed as all-in Adjusted on the graph, because this stat is adjusted along with your existing winnings. We also display this in tournaments - and we add in more details to cover Net Expected Winnings, which is why I added that addition detail in the prior post. You can ignore the Tournament components to these stat groupings and just focus on the Cash game All-In Equity Adjusted Winnings if you like.

That is incorrect. Expectation is not "What you should be making", it is your equity in the hand times the size of the pot. So if you have 60% equity, and the pot is $100, you EXPECT to make $60 - but in reality you will make $100 60% of the time, or $0 40% of the time (we will assume a chopped pot is impossible to make this easier to explain).

The colors of the graph lines in PokerTracker 4 are 100% configurable, so the color depends on what you defined.

The Red line typically refers to Chips Won Without Showdown (when you enable Showdown/Non SD Winnings) and therefore has nothing to do with All-In Equity related calculations.

You misunderstand what this stat is for, please re-read the Guide I provided - it can better explain the concepts of EV, Expectation, and Luck than I can in this thread. A tracker cannot measure the EV of a decision because EV can only be calculated when there is a variable - in the case of poker that variable would have to be an opponent's range. Since a tracker doesn't know your opponent's range, it becomes impossible to really calculate EV. Since we could not calculate EV, we came up with a new concept - All-In Equity Adjusted Winnings. This is similar to EV, but it can only be calculated when you are all in, and we know ALL of the opponent's hands at showdown who had equity in the pot.

The important thing to note is that both EV and Equity Adjusted Winnings are measurements of Expectation, they are not measurements of skill or luck. So to answer your question, a tracker cannot tell you if your decisions are +EV or -EV... but a tracker can tell you if you are running above or below expectation.

- TT

I understand that English is a second language for you, so I will explain again what I said in the prior post - but in a simpler way. I hope this helps.

• You can see Table Session Stats for opponents in-game by right clicking on the player's HUD stats
• You can see Table session stats in the replayer for opponents by right clicking on the player's HUD stats
• You can switch ALL players at the same time to Table Session Stats in-game by using the PT4 HUD Menu (the chip icon)
• You cannot switch ALL players at the same time to Table Session Stats in the Replayer, instead we offer the ability to see lifetime stats or stats known at the point when the hand took place.
• The HERO always shows table session stats in-game, in the Replayer you have the option of showing the HERO's lifetime stats.

- TT

This is where i am getting confused sry because in the first one you are saying in game the session stats are available, but than see above you say in replayer they are also?

So of this you are saying you can see the table session stats in the replayer and I'm not talking about game I'm talking about replayer

but when i right click on the players HUD not in game no option is available to change to session stats

Just to make it simpler my question is regarding off table not in game, so doing after session reviews reviewing hands with the replayer

When i put my mouse over villains HUD stats its saying the stats are shown as THIS SESSION stats

but when i right click on the players HUD as you said to do nothing happens

If you don't see the menu when you right click on a player's stats it could be because you have unlocked the Hud layout - that blocks the menu because it allows you to drag the stats without pressing Control. Click the PT-icon and choose Lock & Save Layout and then you should see the right-click menu for players' stats.

--WhiteRider

yep that was it ty

Thanks, so this stat is useless and mis-informative then due to too many variables, and I should just disregard it. Question tho is why it is a default stat in the graph?