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Old 03-02-2008, 08:14 PM   #1126
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 5 Release - 27-Feb-08)

Any idea of when you're going to include all-in luck / sklansky bux graphing? I want to know how much David owes me.
How about hh export?
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Old 03-02-2008, 08:30 PM   #1127
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 5 Release - 27-Feb-08)

No ETA on those features. I'm hoping to have EV calculations in before the first commercial release, but I cannot guarantee it at this time. Hand History exports should definitely be in before the commercial release.
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Old 03-02-2008, 08:32 PM   #1128
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You are confusing my non-technical talk...

If AHK HUD were to max out the CPU it could cause lag which could timeout new PT3 connections and would appear to most people as 'crashing' PostgreSQL although technically it is not crashing...

(A lot of could have, would have's )

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Fair enough

This one is an actual crash of postgres, then PT3 and AHK go wrong too of course. I am kinda stumped, you may know better I hope - there are error logs and more feedback here: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...69#post2981669
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Old 03-02-2008, 09:16 PM   #1129
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 5 Release - 27-Feb-08)

Is there any way to make it so that the PostgreSQL Database Server service only runs when PT3 runs?
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Old 03-02-2008, 10:38 PM   #1130
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Is there any way to make it so that the PostgreSQL Database Server service only runs when PT3 runs?
I plan on making this an option.
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Old 03-03-2008, 12:18 AM   #1131
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Is there any way to make it so that the PostgreSQL Database Server service only runs when PT3 runs?
Serious question, what on earth would be the point of this?
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Old 03-03-2008, 01:06 AM   #1132
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I don't understand. Why would you want the service running while it's not in use?
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Old 03-03-2008, 01:18 AM   #1133
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I also do not understand - why would you want to spend the CPU cycles stopping a service, only to start it again when it is next required? A running service which is idle costs almost nothing.

For comparison, would you have your anti-virus start its service every time you were to open a file, then close it afterwards? obviously not - it would take a great deal extra CPU time - for this reason, you do not see any virus scanner unloiad itself after it has finished a scan.

Added to that, PokerTracker 3 is just an application interfacing with postgres database - it has no idea if it is the only one - pokertracker 2, PokerEV, Holdem Manager - these all access postgresql too - do you know what happens when postgresql is forcibly shut down during a PT2 import? do you really want PT3 to just shut it off no matter what else you are doing? Josh /.AP10 will have to take care to handle all these possible scenarios, where they could be actually developing the program...

Primarily, Is it a good allocation of time for Josh / AP10 to spend time implementing and testing this, making sure it does not tread on other applications etc - when you already have a shortcut to start / stop the service in your Start menu?
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Old 03-03-2008, 02:52 AM   #1134
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 5 Release - 27-Feb-08)

In replying to me, you answered my original question (which was not answered)--I did not know that those start and stop shortcuts were in my start menu.

To respond to the rest of your post, the postgres database actually takes up a significant amount of resources for me. No, I do not think someone should have it running all the time if he or she uses it exactly once per day. Same goes for a virus scanner. If you cannot recall the last time you scanned a file for viruses, then you are probably better off not having your scanner on constantly. It's a waste, really. When friends and family ask me to clean their computers due to recent slowdowns, the number one culprit is always unused programs and services. Of those, a common offender is the major commercial virus protection programs. I kind of understand where you are coming from, but that was a bad example cause I am a huge, long-time critic of anti-virus software.

I'm sure if Josh is thinking about implementing an automatic shutoff, then he has thought about its implications and ways to avoid problems.
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Old 03-03-2008, 04:08 AM   #1135
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 5 Release - 27-Feb-08)

I'm sorry if this was ever answered or asked for that matter, but I was wondering if there is going to be a HORSE option or something like that for PT3? Thanks.
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Old 03-03-2008, 04:52 AM   #1136
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 5 Release - 27-Feb-08)

dunno if this has been asked yet but here goes

I don't see aggression factor by street anymore in the general stats player statistics window.... surely there's an option to change that?
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dunno if this has been asked yet but here goes

I don't see aggression factor by street anymore in the general stats player statistics window.... surely there's an option to change that?
Yes, click the button to the right of the player statistics window and you can choose which stats to view.
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Old 03-03-2008, 07:00 AM   #1138
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 5 Release - 27-Feb-08)

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To respond to the rest of your post, the postgres database actually takes up a significant amount of resources for me. No, I do not think someone should have it running all the time if he or she uses it exactly once per day.
Seriously, if postgres is eating up a significant amount of resources when it's idle, how can your computer handle it when you're actually running PT3, Full Tilt, etc.? My suggestion would be buying a post-stone age computer, they're pretty cheap these days.

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I'm sorry if this was ever answered or asked for that matter, but I was wondering if there is going to be a HORSE option or something like that for PT3? Thanks.
Hold'em, Stud and Omaha are all going to be in PT3 in time, no more 3 separate software. You just register/activate them separately. Right now they're concentrating on hold'em though since stud/omaha are a niche market.
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Old 03-03-2008, 08:43 AM   #1139
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 5 Release - 27-Feb-08)

I can see the desire to avoid having PostgreSQL running when it's not in use, and it's not hard to see if there are any active connections to the database. This is a simple option to add once I get time to do it, so it's not a big deal at all.
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Fair enough

This one is an actual crash of postgres, then PT3 and AHK go wrong too of course. I am kinda stumped, you may know better I hope - there are error logs and more feedback here: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...69#post2981669
any ideas?
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Old 03-03-2008, 01:09 PM   #1141
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 5 Release - 27-Feb-08)

feature request for us SNG players

we all know FT doesnt generate tournament summaries... and there are a few programs out there that can generate FT summaries but only with games that are currently on the FT servers... great for the games im currently playing

i dont see why it shouldnt be relatively easy to import past results from a sharkscope spreadsheet into PT? shouldnt it just be as simple as matching the fields in the spreadsheet to the fields in PT??

i have 1000+ sngs on FT that id prefer not to have to enter the results manually and it really sucks to not have those results in my PT database

possible? or is there another solution i havent found yet?
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Old 03-03-2008, 01:15 PM   #1142
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 5 Release - 27-Feb-08)

PT3 will have a feature that will automatically locate the placement and winning information in single table SnGs. If this information has already been entered into your PT2 database, the PT3 conversion will eventually convert that info into the PT3 database.
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Old 03-03-2008, 08:07 PM   #1143
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 5 Release - 27-Feb-08)

Have people been playing around with the reporting feature at all? Maybe if someone's got some cool reports that they want to show off, please do so. I'd like to see them.

Or if anyone has an idea for a report, but they don't know how to make it, post it here and some of us can take a shot.
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Old 03-03-2008, 08:32 PM   #1144
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 5 Release - 27-Feb-08)

In a few days we should be opening up the repository where anyone will be able to upload their stats and reports for others to download.
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Old 03-03-2008, 11:02 PM   #1145
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Seriously, if postgres is eating up a significant amount of resources when it's idle, how can your computer handle it when you're actually running PT3, Full Tilt, etc.? My suggestion would be buying a post-stone age computer, they're pretty cheap these days.
You and I are using two different definitions of the word "significant". I meant "a significant amount of resources for something that's not even doing anything." Come one, this isn't too complicated or foreign. Lots of people enjoy not having unnecessary services running. Alone, postgres doesn't account for much, but if you add it to all of the needless Windows services that are turned on by default as well as the third party services, it adds up. I like to have everything off unless it's constantly or regularly in use.
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PT3 will have a feature that will automatically locate the placement and winning information in single table SnGs. If this information has already been entered into your PT2 database, the PT3 conversion will eventually convert that info into the PT3 database.
wow this is awesome... does it automatically locate the placement and winning info for old SNGs from the hand history? if so... great great stuff... or is it generating the info from the FT client? either way is a great feature... but obviously for someone like me who wants to get my old sng results up to date the HH way will make me happier

i have no info in my pt2 because i just recently purchased pt2 in anticipation of pt3 since u posted about the discount for recent pt2 customers

thanks

cant wait for the official release
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Old 03-03-2008, 11:35 PM   #1147
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 5 Release - 27-Feb-08)

Basically, PT3 will take the payout information from each site, search the histories for the SnG and find out which hand each player went out on and give them the appropriate place and payout. It should work for any site, but only single-table SnGs.
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I think I would like to purchase poker tracker and poker ace hud. I have never used any poker software before. I have taken a break from actually playing right now to concentrate on studying and learning more about the game.

I have alot of tournament hand histories on my cpu that I would like to review and learn from. I am interested in mainly MTTs and Sit N Gos.

Can pokertracker and poker ace hud be extremely useful only playing tournaments and sit n gos ??

I am completely new to poker software and would greatly appreciate information on what i need to do to purchase pokertracker and poker ace hud and use it effectively.


Thanks Alot
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 5 Release - 27-Feb-08)

Just some quick questions about upgrading to PT3 from PT2. At the moment I have many, many PT2 databases (I have a lot of data). These are mostly PP/FT/PS hands, but they do contain a significant number of hands from other sites.

Eventually I would like to have two PT3 databases - 1) My hands (perhaps divided into annual databases) and 2) Mined hands. I would like to begin the migration process ASAP, and would like to be using PT3 beta as soon as the HUD is released.

Obviously the conversion process takes quite a long time for all this data. If I convert my databases now, I will capture around ~90% of the hands, but not those for other sites. I will then have to re-import these as support is added.

Will PT3 format change so much that I will have to re-import everything again at a later date? E.g. Is it wise to begin getting my databases set up now? Or should I wait until a later version?
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I think I would like to purchase poker tracker and poker ace hud. I have never used any poker software before. I have taken a break from actually playing right now to concentrate on studying and learning more about the game.

I have alot of tournament hand histories on my cpu that I would like to review and learn from. I am interested in mainly MTTs and Sit N Gos.

Can pokertracker and poker ace hud be extremely useful only playing tournaments and sit n gos ??

I am completely new to poker software and would greatly appreciate information on what i need to do to purchase pokertracker and poker ace hud and use it effectively.


Thanks Alot
PT2 + PAH were primarily designed for cash game play, but tournament players got a lot out of them too. PT3 will have improved tournament support, so it will be even more useful for tournament players.


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Just some quick questions about upgrading to PT3 from PT2. At the moment I have many, many PT2 databases (I have a lot of data). These are mostly PP/FT/PS hands, but they do contain a significant number of hands from other sites.

Eventually I would like to have two PT3 databases - 1) My hands (perhaps divided into annual databases) and 2) Mined hands. I would like to begin the migration process ASAP, and would like to be using PT3 beta as soon as the HUD is released.

Obviously the conversion process takes quite a long time for all this data. If I convert my databases now, I will capture around ~90% of the hands, but not those for other sites. I will then have to re-import these as support is added.

Will PT3 format change so much that I will have to re-import everything again at a later date? E.g. Is it wise to begin getting my databases set up now? Or should I wait until a later version?
There are going to be changes to the PT3 database schema between now and the initial commercial release. If you're not going to want to re-import all of these hands, I'd recommend waiting. One thing you can do is export all your hands from your PT2 databases and organize them in directories. Then you can have PT3 import from those directories overnight whenever there's a new release.
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