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Old 02-02-2008, 04:28 PM   #601
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Re: Pokertracker 3 (Beta Released)

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do you guys need alpha testers for UB? I'd be happy to try it out...I play 10/20-30/60 and 2/4-5/10nl if that matters.
We will need more testers as we add more site support. We'll have more information later.
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Old 02-02-2008, 04:44 PM   #602
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Re: Pokertracker 3 (Beta Released)

PokerAce;

(I apologize in advance if you already know about this feature at 2p2.)

Not sure if you are aware of the "Multi-Quote" feature at the forums, but it would probably make it easier and faster for you to answer questions in this thread.

There is a "Quote+" button, on each post. As you read, and click each post that requires answering, they are copied to a "vB forum clipboard" - so when you get to the end, and click "Reply" - all of the "Multi-Quotes" will be quoted in your 1 reply. Then you can answer each quoted post, in-between the other posts - and all your answers will be in 1 Multi-Quote Reply.

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Are you certain it's the file you uploaded? I just imported it and had no problems.
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We will need more testers as we add more site support. We'll have more information later.

blah, blah, blah

Last edited by fozzy71; 02-02-2008 at 04:44 PM. Reason: Thought it might save you time, when replying to multiple questions.
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Old 02-02-2008, 04:58 PM   #603
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Re: Pokertracker 3 (Beta Released)

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Anyone else having problems? You shouldnt be going to that page, try clearing your cache...
I did clear my cache and now I'm getting this:



I also tried with IE and on my laptop, neither worked, must be my internet. I don't have any hardware/software firewalls installed.
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Old 02-02-2008, 06:07 PM   #604
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Are you certain it's the file you uploaded? I just imported it and had no problems.
Oh sorry wrong file. Here is the right one.
I just investigated the file further and it seems that party crashed and wrote a lot of garbage from my memory into the history files which were then imported into PT2. The file is so messed that I doubt PT3 is supposed to import it correctly although PT2 somehow managed it.
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Old 02-02-2008, 09:45 PM   #605
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Fozzy, I was not aware of that feature. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

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Oh sorry wrong file. Here is the right one.
I just investigated the file further and it seems that party crashed and wrote a lot of garbage from my memory into the history files which were then imported into PT2. The file is so messed that I doubt PT3 is supposed to import it correctly although PT2 somehow managed it.
I imported this file into PT3, and it imported 294 hands. I then imported it into PT2, and only got 292 hands. The hand history is indeed FUBARed, so there's not much more that can be done with it. I'll play around with it and hopefully I'll come up with an efficient way of extracting those extra hands
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Old 02-02-2008, 09:50 PM   #606
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Re: Pokertracker 3 (Beta Released)

YW, thought it might save you some time when you are answering questions here.
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Old 02-02-2008, 11:26 PM   #607
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Re: Pokertracker 3 (Beta Released)

For the replayer - can you have hero always at the bottom?

For the filters - can I search by when playerX raises flop and goes to showdown?

When replaying a hand - I can only make a note on the hand but not on the player.
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Old 02-02-2008, 11:31 PM   #608
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The constant clustering each time I've played a 400 hand session gets annoying real fast.
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Old 02-02-2008, 11:47 PM   #609
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The constant clustering each time I've played a 400 hand session gets annoying real fast.
Manual import? you can untick the "cluster" box - or is it doing this for you on auto-import?


PA / AP10 - there is something wrong with your site... I can get there fine but there are almost no users online and hasn't been all night.
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Old 02-02-2008, 11:55 PM   #610
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Manual, yes. Stupid me, thanks for the tip.
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Old 02-02-2008, 11:58 PM   #611
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Manual, yes. Stupid me, thanks for the tip.
no problem

Cluster after the first big import, and then after each 50K hands or so is the devs recommendation.
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Old 02-03-2008, 04:10 AM   #612
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Re: Pokertracker 3 (Beta Released)

DAtabase conversion issue:

I keep trying to convert my PT2 database, it has ~200k stars hands, ~400k party hands, and ~200k FT hands - it trys to import them in that order. The stars hands have come in perfectly, however, right after it finishes the Stars hands and starts the Party hands it crashes. It has done this in each of about 6 attemps.....
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Old 02-03-2008, 09:59 AM   #613
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For the replayer - can you have hero always at the bottom?

For the filters - can I search by when playerX raises flop and goes to showdown?

When replaying a hand - I can only make a note on the hand but not on the player.
1. I don't see why not.
2. You want to see the hands you participated with the player? View that player's stats, apply the filters, then go to the vs Player tab and find your name.
3. This will be added with the HUD functionality.


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The constant clustering each time I've played a 400 hand session gets annoying real fast.
While you are playing, you should use auto-import. It will be necessary to use auto-import with the HUD.


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PA / AP10 - there is something wrong with your site... I can get there fine but there are almost no users online and hasn't been all night.
I'm not sure if Derek has figured out the issues with the site yet. We're still getting downloads and new users, so I'm assuming it's working for most people.


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DAtabase conversion issue:

I keep trying to convert my PT2 database, it has ~200k stars hands, ~400k party hands, and ~200k FT hands - it trys to import them in that order. The stars hands have come in perfectly, however, right after it finishes the Stars hands and starts the Party hands it crashes. It has done this in each of about 6 attemps.....
Is this with beta 3? If not, please download it and try it.
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Old 02-03-2008, 10:43 AM   #614
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Re: Pokertracker 3 (Beta Released)

Sorry if this question is already asked but everytime if I filter my stats then tracker start updating the player list first. After the player list is loaded and populated then it start loading my requested stats.

The problem is, if you are filtering huge data then you have tons of player and it take 4-5 minutes to load and populate player list and its annoying.
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Old 02-03-2008, 11:14 AM   #615
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Re: Pokertracker 3 (Beta Released)

Re: For the filters - can I search by when playerX raises flop and goes to showdown, when he called pfr, etc?

I wasn't think about hands I've played against someone.
I was talking about looking through my FT datamined hands and picking up patterns.

Thanks.
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Old 02-03-2008, 11:17 AM   #616
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Re: Pokertracker 3 (Beta Released)

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While you are playing, you should use auto-import. It will be necessary to use auto-import with the HUD.
I will if/when I switch to PT3. For the time being I'm still using PT2/PAHud on one computer and Holdem Manager + HUD on another one. I'm just importing to PT3 to test the program, if the HUD/additional features lives up to the speed and feel of the program so far I'm pretty sure I'll end up with PT3 everywhere. It's fast.
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Old 02-03-2008, 12:19 PM   #617
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Re: Pokertracker 3 (Beta Released)

How come duplicates kill the import speed so bad?

Import speed overall has been great, btw (300 hands/s ). I was just curious as the performance hit seems counter-intuitive to a technical moran like me.
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Old 02-03-2008, 12:28 PM   #618
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Re: Pokertracker 3 (Beta Released)

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Sorry if this question is already asked but everytime if I filter my stats then tracker start updating the player list first. After the player list is loaded and populated then it start loading my requested stats.

The problem is, if you are filtering huge data then you have tons of player and it take 4-5 minutes to load and populate player list and its annoying.
This will be changed to load the player you last had active at the same time as the player list, thus saving you from having to wait until the player list is completely populated.

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Re: For the filters - can I search by when playerX raises flop and goes to showdown, when he called pfr, etc?

I wasn't think about hands I've played against someone.
I was talking about looking through my FT datamined hands and picking up patterns.
Yes, you can filter by all this criteria. Click the Filters button, choose what you want to filter by and apply.

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I will if/when I switch to PT3. For the time being I'm still using PT2/PAHud on one computer and Holdem Manager + HUD on another one. I'm just importing to PT3 to test the program, if the HUD/additional features lives up to the speed and feel of the program so far I'm pretty sure I'll end up with PT3 everywhere. It's fast.
You can use PT3's auto-import alongside PT2 or any other software, just make sure you don't have PT3 moving processed files.

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How come duplicates kill the import speed so bad?

Import speed overall has been great, btw (300 hands/s ). I was just curious as the performance hit seems counter-intuitive to a technical moran like me.
When PT3 encounters a duplicate, it checks the data in the duplicate hand to what you currently have in the database. If the new hand has more info than the old one, the old data is replaced. This way, if you have an observed hand in your database, and you import a new version with more hole cards in it, the new hand will update the old information. It's this checking that causes the slowdowns.
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Old 02-03-2008, 12:37 PM   #619
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Re: Pokertracker 3 (Beta Released)

Nice Multi-Quote.
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Old 02-03-2008, 01:23 PM   #620
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Re: Pokertracker 3 (Beta Released)

Yes, Beta 3 didt not correct my database conversion issue, same thing happened with 2 & 3.
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When PT3 encounters a duplicate, it checks the data in the duplicate hand to what you currently have in the database. If the new hand has more info than the old one, the old data is replaced. This way, if you have an observed hand in your database, and you import a new version with more hole cards in it, the new hand will update the old information. It's this checking that causes the slowdowns.
Then could we have a checkbox option to "import, skip duplicates" to speed things up when we know there is no new info to be gained? There will be many instances for various reasons where a directory may have many thousands of already imported hands and the current slowdown is a major pain. You could make the option reset to default ("import, check duplicates") after each import if you are worried about someone accidentally leaving it on.
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Then could we have a checkbox option to "import, skip duplicates" to speed things up when we know there is no new info to be gained? There will be many instances for various reasons where a directory may have many thousands of already imported hands and the current slowdown is a major pain. You could make the option reset to default ("import, check duplicates") after each import if you are worried about someone accidentally leaving it on.
Similarly, with my database conversion issue, I have to sit through 200k+ of alrady imported Stars hands before it starts to try to get the Party hands (and fails). It would be pretty cool if I could select to convert only the hands from a particular site (although I suppose I only think that feature is useful because I am having my current troubles....)
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Then could we have a checkbox option to "import, skip duplicates" to speed things up when we know there is no new info to be gained?
Yes, this would be really good. Once I get past the initial migration from PT2 to PT3, I think I'll know in advance a lot of the time whether I want to consider duplicates.

I'm thinking I frequently import a high volume of hands that I know are all observed hands. These can't possibly provide more info than what's already in the DB, right? In this case, the speed benefits of skipping the duplicates would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 02-03-2008, 04:19 PM   #624
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by the way, i can't find place to input my started roll, and my rakeback/bonus every month.
is bankroll managerment feature going to be added?
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Old 02-03-2008, 04:39 PM   #625
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Nice Multi-Quote.
Thanks! Here's another:

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Yes, Beta 3 didt not correct my database conversion issue, same thing happened with 2 & 3.
I'm working closely with a few people having the conversion crash problem. Hopefully I'll be able to reproduce it and then I can eliminate it.

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Then could we have a checkbox option to "import, skip duplicates" to speed things up when we know there is no new info to be gained? There will be many instances for various reasons where a directory may have many thousands of already imported hands and the current slowdown is a major pain. You could make the option reset to default ("import, check duplicates") after each import if you are worried about someone accidentally leaving it on.
Having this be an option isn't a bad idea.

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Similarly, with my database conversion issue, I have to sit through 200k+ of alrady imported Stars hands before it starts to try to get the Party hands (and fails). It would be pretty cool if I could select to convert only the hands from a particular site (although I suppose I only think that feature is useful because I am having my current troubles....)
The conversion process does need more flexibility. I'll see what I can do.

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by the way, i can't find place to input my started roll, and my rakeback/bonus every month.
is bankroll managerment feature going to be added?
This feature does not exist yet, but we will be adding bankroll management tools to PT3.
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