The reason for this is that PT3 checks whether the hand history it is trying to import has more info than the one already in the DB.

That would be the easiest way, yes. (Once they are gone from PT2, they are gone, though, so be sure you want to do it, or back up the DB first!)

Correct, they will be ignored.

No firm ETA, sorry. Sites will be added in the order discussed here: Supported sites in commercial release?
Once the HUD stability issues are sorted, new sites and functionality will be added as quickly as possible.

So is beta 13 reason enought to buy PT3 yet... before everyone said to hold off.... how much has beta 13 done to help the product

Buy it. It not up to full speed yet but its completely useable now. What have you got to lose?

Thanks for answering my question

You can test it out for yourself on trial without buying it. The only real restriction is that you are limited to a single database until you register, but there is no limit on importing.

Download page.
Scroll down for Beta 13

Sorry, but I think that not being able to play with custom reports and stats is a real limitation.

Well, there are so many features planned and I can't rank the priorities, but I do know that a replayer rehaul is up there.

That works with trial, I know cause I am using it.

Is there a way for me to hide the player window? It seems that loading this is slowing down my computer and PT3 considerably, and I don't plan on using it much. It would be much better if I had to click a button to see the player list.

im running beta 13.

everytime i import tourney results the software automatically starts Clustering when i import my pokerstars tourney results. its really annoying.

also im getting hud crashes all the time (about 4 per hour) when playing tourneys and it says to restart PT. I dont get them nearly as much when im playing cash. I also noted that i added a new group for table stats and that seemed to make it worse and with it i was getting HUD cashes on cash but i removed it for tourneys and it is still rather unreliable.

any suggestions?

Any way for me to get a fold to 3-bet stat that only counts folds to 3-bets when I was the PFR?

The best you can do at the moment is to disable filtering of the player list, on the Settings window.

You should uncheck the Cluster etc. options on manual import if you do a lot of small imports.

Please see this post: Having Hud Problems? READ THIS!


You could build this easily as a Custom Statistic. Documentation.
Start with the normal fold to 3-bet stat, Duplicate it, and add a condition for when you already raised. The best way to learn about Custom Stats is to have a play!

What's the difference between clustering and vacuuming? Which one should I be doing for maintenance purposes?

From my layman's point of view, Vacuum is a kind of clean up of empty space, Clustering is a way of regrouping/re-indexing.
I understand that Cluster also does a Vacuum.

Ok thx, as long as they are not opposites lol.

Hmmm, Configure stats gives me the "feature unavailable" message

I thought that was where the custom data was created. I stand corrected.

thats whiterider. my bad for not checking that. perhaps make not ticking the cluster option a default would be better and instead just do that 'you havent clustered on a while' type of message at some point.

Custom stats indeed don't work in trial, but custom reports work fine, just to clear that for those who are wondering.

OMG! My pokertracker 3 HUD stop working and I am deep in the sunday 100k. help!!
i tried resetting, i tried reinstalling pokertracker.
anyone have suggestions?

Cluster and analyze are the most important for performance purposes. Vacuum is the least important.

Not that it's a huge deal, but disabling filtering of the player list makes the player list reload again.. which is sorta annoying and prob easy to fix.

So... is this right?

I added a new column called cnt_p_raise_3bet_def_opp that's this:

sum(if[holdem_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_3bet_def_opp AND holdem_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_first_raise='T rue', 1, 0])

Then I added a new column called cnt_p_raise_3bet_def_action_fold that's this:

sum(if[holdem_hand_player_statistics.enum_p_3bet_action=' F' AND holdem_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_first_raise='T rue', 1, 0])

Then made my new stat:

(cnt_p_raise_3bet_def_action_fold / cnt_p_raise_3bet_def_opp) * 100

How's that look?

beta 13 hud still crashing on me after i changed the name of the layout file.

Auto importing party hands crashed Beta13 on Vista32bit after a few hours, "abnormal program termination". These are the last lines in the log file:

2008/06/16 02:31:45.216: [00005660][ImportAuto] Adding message: PartyGaming: Hand Imported (#7145434356)
2008/06/16 02:31:46.363: [00005660][ImportAuto] Adding message: PartyGaming: Hand Imported (#7145435023)
2008/06/16 02:31:46.879: [00005660][ImportAuto] Adding message: PartyGaming: Hand Imported (#7145433881)
2008/06/16 02:31:47.707: [00005660][Win32 Exception (Error)] Access violation

Nope. There isn't really an opposite to vacuum . . . except maybe importing blank data?

I think there are plans in the works to make this happen eventually. But it's far from the top of the priority list (for hopefully obvious reasons).

Thanks for keeping us all apprised.

It's probably too late now for my advice (hope the tourney finished well!) but if the error was the feeder process error than PostgreSQL likely was shut down for some reason and Start --> Programs --> PostgreSQL --> Stop Services then [...] --> Start Service would've brought it back up.

Since cluster also vacuums, doing vacuums on their own are pretty redundant also. Also, you'd need a vacuum more if you selectively removed part of the database, but since that feature isn't available in PT3 yet it matters less. (And since reclustering would help with other things, just reclustering would be easiest

That looks good to me. Do the numbers add up?

Please attach the PokerTracker.log and PokerTrackerHud.log files to a support request before restarting PT3 after a crash and we will look into it. (Note: these files are only written if logging is enabled. If logging wasn't enabled, please click Configure --> Options --> Logging Enabled and then restart PT3 and it will be logging after that.)

If you could do the same as mocky, make sure logging is enabled and attach the PokerTracker.log and PokerTrackerHud.log to a support ticket it would be useful. Does this happen when the HUD is going or when the HUD is turned off?

I have been trying to be patient with PT3, and i still am. However i want to see if anyone has the same problem as me with the HUD.

I play 4 tables, and i table select by looking through the rooms with high players/flp and a avg pot. I also look for my green icon players etc. I load tables wait for the stats to load and then decide if i want to post or leave. PAHUD brings up stats after the first hand. PT3 takes anywhere from 5-20 hands to come up. So i still haven't been able to use PT3 to play yet. Waiting that long to see the stats makes me miss all the other tables i'm on the waitinglist for. Does anyone else have this problem