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Old 01-26-2008, 12:47 PM   #326
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Re: PokerTracker 3: Beta Released

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Making aliases is taking a very long time. Once I select a name to add, the program hangs for several minutes.
This was discussed earlier in the thread. The alias process takes more time upfront, but is done in such a way that having an alias does not affect the retrieval speeds at all. Aliases aren't added very often, so this is the best way to accomplish it.
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Old 01-26-2008, 01:01 PM   #327
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This was discussed earlier in the thread. The alias process takes more time upfront, but is done in such a way that having an alias does not affect the retrieval speeds at all. Aliases aren't added very often, so this is the best way to accomplish it.
Is it not possible to auto-detect your aliases from the hand histories? I imagine it could go wrong if you tried to import somebody else's hands, but I don't think many people do that.

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Old 01-26-2008, 01:32 PM   #328
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Re: PokerTracker 3: Beta Released

reporting bug and answered by fozzy71, PT2 to PT3 database conversion

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Old 01-26-2008, 01:34 PM   #329
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Re: PokerTracker 3: Beta Released

Dont convert directly. This has been mentioned repeatedly. There is a bug they are trying to fix.

Export all PT2 HH's to Text file. Then manually import the HH's to PT3. I imported 160k+ hands in <20 minutes using this method.
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Old 01-26-2008, 01:41 PM   #330
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Re: PokerTracker 3: Beta Released

is the "hours played" problem standard?!

im still having some ENOURMES UNREAL numbers in my hours played tab ...
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Old 01-26-2008, 02:11 PM   #331
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Re: PokerTracker 3: Beta Released

and why is the summary window showing me a different number of "Amount won" then the statistic window ??!!! (statistics equal to the pt2 stats)

im also having different numbers of hands in there

67.125 in summary and 67.882 in statistics ...

made a screenshot

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Old 01-26-2008, 02:14 PM   #332
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Re: PokerTracker 3: Beta Released

damn ... today stats are the same ... in Summary & Statistics ... but only around 2k hands ...

samplesize?

"19.8 hours" ... still rigged

pt 2 says "2.13" i guess thats correct
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Old 01-26-2008, 02:19 PM   #333
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Re: PokerTracker 3: Beta Released

problem with filter stats.

I choose filter reraising 3bet then switching position

from "Greater ... off the button" to "exactly"

and PT3 crashes 8[

ntdll error
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Old 01-26-2008, 02:44 PM   #334
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damn ... today stats are the same ... in Summary & Statistics ... but only around 2k hands ...

samplesize?

"19.8 hours" ... still rigged

pt 2 says "2.13" i guess thats correct
iamonething I'm going to hazard a guess at this.

The hours shown on this tab is your total for all tables played. So if you 8 table for 3 hours it will show 24 hours even though you only played for 3.

If you go to the Sessions tab and select Display: Sessions - By Time, the table changes to show your MT Ratio and your hours should be correctly divided by it in this table.

I'm sure someoone will correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 01-26-2008, 02:47 PM   #335
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Those errors just indicate the hand already exists in the database. It was a duplicate.

yeah I got that but the program completely crashes.

The text is text from the logfile.
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Old 01-26-2008, 02:50 PM   #336
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iamonething I'm going to hazard a guess at this.

The hours shown on this tab is your total for all tables played. So if you 8 table for 3 hours it will show 24 hours even though you only played for 3.

If you go to the Sessions tab and select Display: Sessions - By Time, the table changes to show your MT Ratio and your hours should be correctly divided by it in this table.

I'm sure someoone will correct me if I'm wrong.
yeah correct ... but ... this is INSANE ... who needs this?!

if i 8 table 3 hours i've played 3 hours ... hope they fix or remove this
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Old 01-26-2008, 02:55 PM   #337
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Re: PokerTracker 3: Beta Released

Knowing your actual table hours is insane? unnecessary? True, most people care only about their actual hourly, but this "Total Hours Summary" is necessary, and should definitely be displayed somewhere. It's what they use to calculate your actual session hours and multi-table ratio. This Total Table Hours played time - is the actual time it would take to play that many hands if you were single tabling. It's a worthwhile and necessary stat.

The number you are looking for is there, its just on the Sessions Tab, which gives you a Summary of your Sessions. The Summary Tab gives you a summary of all your hands (read: not sessions).
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Old 01-26-2008, 03:06 PM   #338
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Re: PokerTracker 3: Beta Released

yeah ... but i dont think its THAT Necessary to be shown in the GENERAL TAB ....

maybe under sessions or something!

i think they should replace the TOTAL HOURS PLAYED ON EVERY TABLE quadzillion billion HOURS to the standard Hours (we are used to) under the general tab ...
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Old 01-26-2008, 03:16 PM   #339
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ZOMG

PT2 showed it under Sessions, when you told it to show the True Hourly Win Rate. The PT2 General Tab showed Total Table hours. I think you are being way too finicky, iyam. The info is there, in a similar fashion as PT2 on the Sessions Tab, and simple to find. The other info you are complaining about is important, was in PT2, and needs to be displayed in some manner. It sounds like you are just nit-picking because the info isn't layed out exactly like you would like it, like you are used to with PT2.
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Re: PokerTracker 3: Beta Released

It's not a big deal but i was unable to update without first deleting beta 1
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Old 01-26-2008, 04:52 PM   #341
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beta2 still freezes before finishing the DB conversion process. It gets farther then beta1 one though. Beta1 always quit at the 8,777 mark and beta 2 gets to 15200 then quits.

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Old 01-26-2008, 05:03 PM   #342
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We have not been able to identify the problem yet. I recommend aborting the conversion, exporting your hand histories to files in PT2, then importing them via the manual import tab in PT3.

Best regards,

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I might be on to something here. I also noticed that the hands/h went down further and further while doing the PT2->PT3 conversion. I then noticed that the display of the number of imported hands stopped going up at about 1/3 of the total hands to import. So the reason the hands/h slowly becoming lower and lower is that the time gets bigger but the total number of hands imported stays the same. I didn't interrupt the process, however, and it finished at pretty much exactly the time I would have extrapolated from the time it took for the first third. Right before the import finished the expected time had been run up to something like 16 hours left and then it was finished only minutes later.

As I found out later (see below) all hands had been correctly imported!

Not being sure what to make of this I went into PT2->game tab->get all->export->300 per file. Now here's an interesting observation: After about 1/3 of the export the display of the number of exported hands stopped going up (<- this is PT2 now, likely an entirely different codebase). Looking at the directory I saw that it was still pushing out text files so I let it run. When the export finished the displayed number of exported hand was still at 1/3 of my hands but the number of text files with 300 hands corresponded to the total amount of hands.

Reimporting these text files into PT3 brought only duplicate hands so the conversion process had actually worked!

PT2 also showed an error message after the import was finished. It was a few lines of something like "hand history for game#62347264 could not be found"
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Old 01-26-2008, 05:26 PM   #343
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Re: PokerTracker 3: Beta Released

Triggerle that is exactly whats happening to me but when it says 0/hs i just assume that the process has failed.
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Old 01-26-2008, 05:41 PM   #344
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I might be on to something here. I also noticed that the hands/h went down further and further while doing the PT2->PT3 conversion. I then noticed that the display of the number of imported hands stopped going up at about 1/3 of the total hands to import. So the reason the hands/h slowly becoming lower and lower is that the time gets bigger but the total number of hands imported stays the same. I didn't interrupt the process, however, and it finished at pretty much exactly the time I would have extrapolated from the time it took for the first third. Right before the import finished the expected time had been run up to something like 16 hours left and then it was finished only minutes later.

As I found out later (see below) all hands had been correctly imported!

Not being sure what to make of this I went into PT2->game tab->get all->export->300 per file. Now here's an interesting observation: After about 1/3 of the export the display of the number of exported hands stopped going up (<- this is PT2 now, likely an entirely different codebase). Looking at the directory I saw that it was still pushing out text files so I let it run. When the export finished the displayed number of exported hand was still at 1/3 of my hands but the number of text files with 300 hands corresponded to the total amount of hands.

Reimporting these text files into PT3 brought only duplicate hands so the conversion process had actually worked!

PT2 also showed an error message after the import was finished. It was a few lines of something like "hand history for game#62347264 could not be found"
If that is the case, that is awesome. Sounds like a bug in the total hands imported which is affecting all of the other stats, which should be a lot easier to debug and fix

Thank you very much for the detailed report!

Best regards,

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Old 01-26-2008, 05:44 PM   #345
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and why is the summary window showing me a different number of "Amount won" then the statistic window ??!!! (statistics equal to the pt2 stats)

im also having different numbers of hands in there

67.125 in summary and 67.882 in statistics ...

made a screenshot

I agree. The more I think about it, the more I like the Player Statistics window at the top.

The total hours played is currently table hours and not real hours. We are still trying to determine an efficient method to calculate real hours played. We will get this added eventually.

The ordering of the fields will be customizable, we just have not had the opportunity to implement this yet.

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Old 01-26-2008, 05:44 PM   #346
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damn ... today stats are the same ... in Summary & Statistics ... but only around 2k hands ...

samplesize?

"19.8 hours" ... still rigged

pt 2 says "2.13" i guess thats correct
Please see my previous post. The hours played is currently table hours and not real hours.

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Old 01-26-2008, 05:47 PM   #347
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yeah correct ... but ... this is INSANE ... who needs this?!

if i 8 table 3 hours i've played 3 hours ... hope they fix or remove this
We will distinguish this once we add "Real Hours".
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It's not a big deal but i was unable to update without first deleting beta 1
Do you remember the message that was displayed? Are you sure that PokerTracker.exe was not running prior to upgrading?

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beta2 still freezes before finishing the DB conversion process. It gets farther then beta1 one though. Beta1 always quit at the 8,777 mark and beta 2 gets to 15200 then quits.
When it freezes/crashes, open the PokerTracker.log file. You will see the last filename before PT3 crashed. If you could send us that file via the PokerTracker support system so that we can resolve the issue for the next beta release, it would be greatly appreciated

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Old 01-26-2008, 06:02 PM   #350
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Not sure if anyone will find this important but the Known Final Hand Summary includes Royal Flushes in with Straight Flushes and doesn't list it seperately.
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