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Old 05-07-2008, 04:21 PM   #2776
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 11 Release - 06-May-2008) - incl. HUD!

beta 9 - HUD lagged liked mad
beta 10 - great no lag issues at all
beta 11 - sigh lag is back and worse than before

i want beta 10 back.. pleeaaase
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Old 05-07-2008, 05:22 PM   #2777
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 11 Release - 06-May-2008) - incl. HUD!

Using PT3 auto import and FPHG to datamine, seems like im not getting any stats on Folding BB/SB to Steal. Everyones F BB/SB to Steal is simply 0.00

Im new to datamining party so this could be normal, can someone confirm/deny?
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Old 05-07-2008, 05:26 PM   #2778
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 11 Release - 06-May-2008) - incl. HUD!

Experiments on Stars with Beta 11 HUD:

Overall it seems slightly more responsive.

Still issues with disappearing stats.

'folded small blind to steal' sometimes does not update when I blatantly try to steal. ie I'm on button, raise, villain in SB instafolds

Will test party next...

(Did I mention how much I love PT3? My girlfriend is seriously jealous. I'm neglecting her )
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Old 05-07-2008, 05:57 PM   #2779
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 11 Release - 06-May-2008) - incl. HUD!

The lag issue has not gone away for me.

I opened table a couple at a time and made note of my Task Manager CPU numbers as I went along. The info follows:

I was runnng AHK-Stars Planner, PT3, Stars ONLY at the time.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
No tables:

AHK 2-5
PT3 0
System Idle 92-94
------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 Tables

AHK 6 - 9
PT3 Mostly 1 - 2 , spiked as high as 16
Stars 0 - 4
------------------------------------------------------------------------
4 Tables

AHK 22
PT3 Mostly 0 - 5, Periodically bouncing between 10--19--27--39
Stars 0 - 4
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
6 Tables

AHK 24
PT3 Mostly 0 - 8, periodically bouncing between 10 -- 22 -- 24 -- 50
Stars 2 - 6

There seemed to be lag when tables were being written to and stats updated, lasting up to 4 seconds
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
8 Tables

AHK was about 24
Stars was about 3 - 7
PT3 Bounced eratically any where from 24 to 58
Lag seemed significant, lasting from up to 8 seconds.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
At this point I had about 150 hands. I then closed a couple tables and plaed for a little while longer. At about 225 hands, stats started disappearing from about 1/2 the tables.

I stopped the HUD and CPU use dropped to very little. Imports seem flawless, but HUD seems to complicate things

I made a copy of my Log file, it is 26000K in size.

System is: 4.3 Ghz Intel w/MultiThread
2Gig Memory
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Old 05-07-2008, 06:29 PM   #2780
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 11 Release - 06-May-2008) - incl. HUD!

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Using PT3 auto import and FPHG to datamine, seems like im not getting any stats on Folding BB/SB to Steal. Everyones F BB/SB to Steal is simply 0.00

Im new to datamining party so this could be normal, can someone confirm/deny?
Just exported the hands from PT3 and imported them into a PT2 acces DB. Seems to work fine in PT2 displaying the correct Fold BB/SB to Steal. So it seems to be a PT3 problem.
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Old 05-07-2008, 06:46 PM   #2781
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 11 Release - 06-May-2008) - incl. HUD!

I've been 16 tabling with the latest Beta. Stats appear on all tables now. I didn't have any major lag problems tbh, but later in the session I was getting tables stealing focus.
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Old 05-07-2008, 06:55 PM   #2782
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 11 Release - 06-May-2008) - incl. HUD!

Idea/sugestion for a HUD Stat.

I datamine on FT, but I'd like to know how many hands I've actually played against a particular player...not just how many I have in my database. I would also like to be able to have the MT ratio stat I have for that player on the HUD...I know MT ratio would understate an opponents true MT ratio, because you can't datamine 'em all, but it only understates and never overstates.

Instead of total hands in ()'s next to the players name, I'd like to have (total hands in database/# of hands actually played against/MT ratio) next to the name
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Old 05-07-2008, 07:48 PM   #2783
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 11 Release - 06-May-2008) - incl. HUD!

Can't 9-table without serious lag issues on the HUD.

On the other betas I could multi-table no problem, but I only had the default HUD stats listed. I made my own layout for this beta, and it's inoperable.
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Old 05-07-2008, 07:58 PM   #2784
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 11 Release - 06-May-2008) - incl. HUD!

I've tested the latest beta on everest tonight.
The application is really impressive but there are some problems to fix.

Fold BB to steal and Fold SB to steal stats are always = 0

The hud is fantastic. I managed to build a cool layout pretty quickly. It would be nice to be able to manage all sorts of layouts, for different rooms, heads up/6 max/full ring tables, etc.
It works fine during play but sometimes some stats disappear for no reason.

The replayer crashes the application once every other hand.

Ability to differentiate heads up/6 max/FR table is really necessary.

Biggest problem is that the app seems to freeze after something like 30/45 minutes of play. Hands are not imported anymore, hud is still working fine but the only choice is to kill the process and restart PT3...
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Old 05-07-2008, 08:45 PM   #2785
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 11 Release - 06-May-2008) - incl. HUD!

It would be nice to have an option to configure hud for a specific table size like in PAHUD. Eg, I use a lot more stats for HU compared to 6max or FR. Right now, PT3 doesn't recognise HU tournaments as such so when I play a 6max sng, the table is filled with stats I use for HU that I won't use for 6max.
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:15 PM   #2786
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 11 Release - 06-May-2008) - incl. HUD!

Is it possible to combine the stats of all databases yet?
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:29 PM   #2787
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 11 Release - 06-May-2008) - incl. HUD!

Is there a way to configure the popup stats, or am I just ******ed and can't find it?
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:51 PM   #2788
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 11 Release - 06-May-2008) - incl. HUD!

EVEREST SUPPORT

YES!!!!!!

That's all I needed to hear, bye bye PT2
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:58 PM   #2789
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 11 Release - 06-May-2008) - incl. HUD!

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Can't 9-table without serious lag issues on the HUD.

On the other betas I could multi-table no problem, but I only had the default HUD stats listed. I made my own layout for this beta, and it's inoperable.
^ Ignore this. Restarted my comp and gave everything a second go and things were gloriously lag-free this time around.
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Old 05-07-2008, 10:37 PM   #2790
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Re: PokerTracker 3: Beta Released

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Problem with the PT2 conversion, it has converted all my Party 6 max hands to non 6 max limits in PT3.

So my NL ($400) 6 max is now NL $4 (along with any full ring I have played as well) seems fine for full tilt.
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There will be an option to take care of this in the future.
i have the same problem. is there a solution allready?
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Old 05-07-2008, 10:39 PM   #2791
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 11 Release - 06-May-2008) - incl. HUD!

Lag Sufferers: Please Read This

We've decided that a cache is needed to solve the performance problem of the Hud. The fact is, if you have a dozen or more tables open, PT3 is doing hundreds of queries every few minutes. These queries, while they don't take much time individually, are creating too much strain on your computers as a whole. The cache will improve this very similar to how the cache in PA Hud does.

That's the good news. The bad news is that I unfortunately don't have time to add this feature before commercial release next week. It is a very high priority though and I will be getting to it ASAP. Likely by the end of the month.


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Ok, its 4.5 which is much more accurate. Thats great.

I also had a day when I was 4 tabling NL, 1 table limit he, and 1 table limit omaha
(6 tables total)...When you add the Omaha and stud sections, would it
be possible to link this MT stat to ALL tables, including tourn and cash games?
I can't really comment on this since I'm not sure how the different game sections will interact with each other yet.

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What is the SQL-expression for a VPIP-on-button-stat?
In pseudo-code: ( sum(if[flg_vpip=true and position=9, 1, 0]) / sum(if[position=9, 1, 0])

Check out the documentation on our site on the custom statistics.

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is there any plans of making it so the hud doesn't steal focusfrom the active table?
the current way the HUD works makes multitabling with overlap (cascade) impossible
What site are you playing on?

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Having some HUD problems.

For example I have a lot of hands on somebody. On one table it shows i have about 200 hands, and on another there's ~500. Obviously this causes stat errors. How do I fix this?
Are you using player ranges? What about the filter for current limit?

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Using PT3 auto import and FPHG to datamine, seems like im not getting any stats on Folding BB/SB to Steal. Everyones F BB/SB to Steal is simply 0.00

Im new to datamining party so this could be normal, can someone confirm/deny?
The Fold SB/BB problem is known and will be fixed.

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The lag issue has not gone away for me.

I opened table a couple at a time and made note of my Task Manager CPU numbers as I went along. The info follows:

I was runnng AHK-Stars Planner, PT3, Stars ONLY at the time.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
No tables:

AHK 2-5
PT3 0
System Idle 92-94
------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 Tables

AHK 6 - 9
PT3 Mostly 1 - 2 , spiked as high as 16
Stars 0 - 4
------------------------------------------------------------------------
4 Tables

AHK 22
PT3 Mostly 0 - 5, Periodically bouncing between 10--19--27--39
Stars 0 - 4
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
6 Tables

AHK 24
PT3 Mostly 0 - 8, periodically bouncing between 10 -- 22 -- 24 -- 50
Stars 2 - 6

There seemed to be lag when tables were being written to and stats updated, lasting up to 4 seconds
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
8 Tables

AHK was about 24
Stars was about 3 - 7
PT3 Bounced eratically any where from 24 to 58
Lag seemed significant, lasting from up to 8 seconds.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
At this point I had about 150 hands. I then closed a couple tables and plaed for a little while longer. At about 225 hands, stats started disappearing from about 1/2 the tables.

I stopped the HUD and CPU use dropped to very little. Imports seem flawless, but HUD seems to complicate things

I made a copy of my Log file, it is 26000K in size.

System is: 4.3 Ghz Intel w/MultiThread
2Gig Memory
200+ SATA Hard Drive
Dual Dell 2001FP
Dual head video card
Thanks for the information. Please zip your log file and attach it to a support ticket along with the contents of your message here.

Quote:
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I've tested the latest beta on everest tonight.
The application is really impressive but there are some problems to fix.

Fold BB to steal and Fold SB to steal stats are always = 0

The hud is fantastic. I managed to build a cool layout pretty quickly. It would be nice to be able to manage all sorts of layouts, for different rooms, heads up/6 max/full ring tables, etc.
It works fine during play but sometimes some stats disappear for no reason.

The replayer crashes the application once every other hand.

Ability to differentiate heads up/6 max/FR table is really necessary.

Biggest problem is that the app seems to freeze after something like 30/45 minutes of play. Hands are not imported anymore, hud is still working fine but the only choice is to kill the process and restart PT3...
We will be adding profiles to the Hud, which will allow you to create separate layouts however you want them.

The replayer will be getting major changes soon, as well as the ability to mark sessions as 6 max and 2 max.

The Hud performance problems should be fixed with the above mentioned cache.

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Is it possible to combine the stats of all databases yet?
Yes. In the Hud Stat Config window, go to the Hud Options tab and check off the databases you want the Hud to read from.

Quote:
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Is there a way to configure the popup stats, or am I just ******ed and can't find it?
PT Icon -> Config Stats -> Group tab -> Select Default Popup group -> Stats tab -> edit.
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Old 05-07-2008, 10:39 PM   #2792
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i have the same problem. is there a solution allready?
Not yet, but soon.
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Old 05-07-2008, 10:43 PM   #2793
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 11 Release - 06-May-2008) - incl. HUD!

Hud keeps disappearing. On certain tables the entire stat box for certain players, mine included, will disappear for no apparent reason.
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Old 05-07-2008, 11:01 PM   #2794
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 11 Release - 06-May-2008) - incl. HUD!

I'm working on that issue. Hopefully it will be resolved soon.
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Old 05-07-2008, 11:10 PM   #2795
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 11 Release - 06-May-2008) - incl. HUD!

Glad to hear about the cache - that did a ton to improve my PA HUD performance over many tables, hope it'll do the same for PT3.
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Old 05-07-2008, 11:41 PM   #2796
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 11 Release - 06-May-2008) - incl. HUD!

mm so what do i do about my hands, where are they?
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Old 05-07-2008, 11:43 PM   #2797
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 11 Release - 06-May-2008) - incl. HUD!

For some reason, the hud doesn't recognise party 6 max tables as 6 max. so I have to click on "treat as 6 max" on each table which can be sort of tedious. Is there any way to tell the HUD to use the 6max setting by default?
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Old 05-08-2008, 12:10 AM   #2798
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 11 Release - 06-May-2008) - incl. HUD!

So, your offering PT2 and PAHUD for free if we preorder PT3? I already own both of those and I would think PT3 should replace both of those, I don't understand your offer. Perhaps those of us that already own PT2 could obtain Stud (I already have the PTO) version? Or a nice discount on the future version of the PT3O?

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Old 05-08-2008, 02:19 AM   #2799
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is there any plans of making it so the hud doesn't steal focusfrom the active table?
the current way the HUD works makes multitabling with overlap (cascade) impossible
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Lag Sufferers: Please Read This
What site are you playing on?

mostly FTP, i'm pretty sure it would do on stars as well in previous versions, haven't tested it with beta 11 on stars
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Old 05-08-2008, 02:38 AM   #2800
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Re: PokerTracker 3 (Beta 11 Release - 06-May-2008) - incl. HUD!

I'm having problems w/ the hud in that the stats seem to come and go. I'm using the lastest beta and vista x64.

Also, it takes like 1-2 orbit before the stats even start appearing during which time my hard-drive is spinning like crazy. (if i'm playing 6+ tables, it can take up to 5 mins)

Stats on PAHUD used to show up straight away and i didn't have that much HDD access.
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