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04-21-2008 , 04:48 PM
I have a ~70gb Raptor drive dedicated to postgres and PT. It's pretty maxxed out. I did what I could to clear up space. I'd like to format this drive clean and install postgres/PT3 on it. (I'd also like to kill off the absurdly, indescribably cluttered and massive "Moved" hand history folder I have currently residing on another drive. Seriously, this monster has four years of hundreds of random folders, thousands of files, datamines from multiple sources/softwares, files in every naming convention imaginable, old exports. It takes a minute just to pull it up in explorer. But I digress...)

Do you expect that PT3 will use more HD space per hand history, less, or the same?

Should I consider having PT3 be on a different drive, and having this drive dedicated to postgres?

When do you anticipate PT3 will be "prime time" enough for me to actually blow away my PT2/existing postgres installations?

With ostensibly improved PT3 performance, will I be able to keep everything in one database, or will it still be a good idea to have a separate database for observed hands?

Will purging observed hands older than X months, followed by a vacuum, fully recapture the appropriate amount of space?
04-21-2008 , 04:55 PM
PT3 stores much more information in its database than PT2 does, therefore the stores requirements are higher. Dedicating a drive to PostgreSQL will likely improve performance, so it's worth doing.

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When do you anticipate PT3 will be "prime time" enough for me to actually blow away my PT2/existing postgres installations?
We have a lot of users using PT3 full time already. Some other people have some stability problems, which we are working on. Give it a shot and see what you think.

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With ostensibly improved PT3 performance, will I be able to keep everything in one database, or will it still be a good idea to have a separate database for observed hands?
Performance wise, PT3 can handle millions of hands without breaking a sweat (we've had one user import over 20 million hands, and I connected to it over the internet and it worked pretty well). However, you may want to set up a rotation of observed hands databases so you can easily remove old datamined information. The next beta version will have Hud support for multiple databases.

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Will purging observed hands older than X months, followed by a vacuum, fully recapture the appropriate amount of space?
Yes, but a rotation of observed hand databases would probably be easier (and quicker).
04-21-2008 , 06:01 PM
I dunno, but am I the only one who is slightly disappointed at the performance? I mean if it's blazingly fast for everyone else then in my case I must suspect hardware or drivers are at fault.
04-21-2008 , 07:07 PM
What exactly is slow? I've just found and fixed a bug that was causing some of the reports to retrieve slowly, so the next beta may work better for you.
04-21-2008 , 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by gball
I dunno, but am I the only one who is slightly disappointed at the performance? I mean if it's blazingly fast for everyone else then in my case I must suspect hardware or drivers are at fault.
You're not the only one, import speeds are very good but other than that it's not fast at all for me either. Sometimes switching filters and running reports is a real PITA because of slow speeds
04-21-2008 , 07:26 PM
Even though Filter Player List in performance options is unchecked, when I change a filter the player tree takes 20-30 seconds to refresh. And after clearing the filter, I went to Hands tab, and it's been loading it now for 4 minutes and is still not ready. And trying now to switch the tabs, and no data is coming up in any of the tabs. Then I select another player, and the data in General and Hands tab refresh very fast, and I switch back to the previous player that was taking ages to load and now it's fast again. Dunno really, sometimes it just seems to hang and take a very long times.
04-21-2008 , 07:41 PM
I just tried to run PT3 and it says there is a new version available but the website still shows the version from 4/12. Where is the new version?
04-21-2008 , 08:51 PM
What version number is it saying?
04-21-2008 , 08:54 PM
It is still showing version 3 Beta 8 which is the version I have.
04-21-2008 , 09:01 PM
No, I mean in the message telling you there's a new version available. What does that message say?
04-21-2008 , 09:25 PM
This version of PokerTracker has expired.


Please download the newest version


And it links to the Pokertracker website.
04-21-2008 , 09:37 PM
You need to fix the date on your computer, it's likely set in the future.
04-21-2008 , 09:38 PM
Good call. Don't know how the hell that happened.
04-21-2008 , 11:55 PM
I'm doing a pretty good job creating custom stats but unfortunately I can't figure out for the life of me how to find the donk bet flop stat. I want it for one of the formulas I am looking to add to custom stats. Thanks
04-22-2008 , 12:28 AM
Those of you using PT3 HUD on Stars, and having problems with BetPot, I found a temporary solution. I made this a few days ago, but never tested it, as I dont use PT3/HUD while playing - I am just testing it after sessions, etc.

OSUGreg1983 tried it tonight and said it allowed BetPot to function properly.

hud_main.png
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It replaces the 20x20 image in:

C:\Program Files\PokerTracker 3\Data\Images\Icons

with my 10x10 version, to replace that HUD image which blocks the Pot Amount.


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I assume the Beta 9 update will replace my modified image when installed. PA will let you know for certain, I am sure.
04-22-2008 , 01:37 AM
how do i update postgres 8.2 to 8.3 , and also keeping the hands in my PT3 DB

also ive been having slow import speeds (20-30) h/s ...what are the benefits of uprgrading postgres ? will it make my import speeds faster?
04-22-2008 , 02:21 AM
will there be (could there be?) support for cake hand histories in pt3 without the need of a cake to stars converter? this would be awesome.
04-22-2008 , 03:51 AM
I'm playing full tilt with the newest release of PT3, and it doesn't track my tournament winnings. It tracks the hands, but always shows a 0% ROI. Is this a known bug, or am i doing something wrong?

Sorry didn't read through this whole thread
04-22-2008 , 07:31 AM
04-22-2008 , 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by slush420
I'm doing a pretty good job creating custom stats but unfortunately I can't figure out for the life of me how to find the donk bet flop stat. I want it for one of the formulas I am looking to add to custom stats. Thanks
The Donk Bet Flop stat doesn't exist yet. You can make it from existing data in the database, but it's a little tricky. I'll be adding it to the default stat list.


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Originally Posted by fozzy71
Those of you using PT3 HUD on Stars, and having problems with BetPot, I found a temporary solution. I made this a few days ago, but never tested it, as I dont use PT3/HUD while playing - I am just testing it after sessions, etc.

OSUGreg1983 tried it tonight and said it allowed BetPot to function properly.

hud_main.png
**************




*****************
It replaces the 20x20 image in:

C:\Program Files\PokerTracker 3\Data\Images\Icons

with my 10x10 version, to replace that HUD image which blocks the Pot Amount.


*******************

I assume the Beta 9 update will replace my modified image when installed. PA will let you know for certain, I am sure.
The next beta will definitely fix this problem, but thanks for the workaround in the meantime.

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Originally Posted by Jzo19
how do i update postgres 8.2 to 8.3 , and also keeping the hands in my PT3 DB

also ive been having slow import speeds (20-30) h/s ...what are the benefits of uprgrading postgres ? will it make my import speeds faster?
Upgrading from 8.2 to 8.3 involves exporting all your databases and importing them again. If you want more assistance, contact us via our support system or forum. There's about a 15-20% increase in speed between 8.2 and 8.3. However, 20-30 h/s is incredibly slow (most people average above 100, even with 8.2). How many hands are in your database and how often do you cluster? Do you have reports running in PT3 while you import? Any other software using PostgreSQL at the same time?

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Originally Posted by jfish
will there be (could there be?) support for cake hand histories in pt3 without the need of a cake to stars converter? this would be awesome.
We were in dicussion with Cake, but they don't seem to be interested in having PokerTracker work with their software. Until they approve, we will not be adding support.

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Originally Posted by seandigs
I'm playing full tilt with the newest release of PT3, and it doesn't track my tournament winnings. It tracks the hands, but always shows a 0% ROI. Is this a known bug, or am i doing something wrong?

Sorry didn't read through this whole thread
Go to the Tournaments menu and choose Enter Results. The next beta will be able to more easily populate your single-table SnGs, but MTT still require manual entry.
04-22-2008 , 02:52 PM
I've been (like many :P) using PT2+PAHUD so far.
Do you think it is a good idea to switch to PT3 right away ?
Aren't there too many missing things ?
Like the HUD, I believe there is no pop-up yet; and the stats lack standard deviation, right ?

In the end, is it worth it ? or should I wait for official release ? (I'm playing FTP so the software compatibility is no issue).
04-22-2008 , 03:14 PM
wait wait wait wait
04-22-2008 , 03:20 PM
I was having trouble before with my computer(quad core 2, lots of memory) locking up while using the hud, you told me to see if it was the hud or one of the other programs.

I 9 tabled with just the hud running and it improved the performance. Over an 45 min I locked up 4 or 5 times for 10-15 seconds. When I tried to go to the general tab and refresh the filter to see how I was doing it locked up completely. I didnt' do a ton of 6 tabling but it seemed to perform fine at that level.

One thing I just noticed is that after my lock up when I opened up PT3 and hit autoimport to pick up any hands missed during the lockup, it found 610 duplicates. When i closed PT3 and reopened it and tried to autoimport again it found no hands. Should it be moving hands during the session? Could that be an issue? I know nothing about computers, so I have no idea.

I tried running different AHK programs and it seemed like each program made the problem worst, UrgentTable seemed to make it really bad.

No big deal, just wanted you to be aware of the issue. I'll try the next beta, but I'm done for now, it's costing me too much money.
04-22-2008 , 03:33 PM
The next beta should improve stability significantly. No more lockups.

The auto-import will move the processed files only when you stop auto-import. If it locks up or crashes, it won't move them until the next time you run auto-import.
04-22-2008 , 04:04 PM
Just checking to see when the final product will be released, thanks!

      
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