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02-25-2008 , 12:45 PM
Yes, import/export functionality is coming. It won't be in this next beta, but hopefully shortly after.
02-25-2008 , 09:13 PM
So, if I'm understanding correctly, other than the 3 currently supported sites (Stars, Tilt, Party) no other sites are going to be added during the beta?

Only when the official release comes out will the other sites be there?
02-25-2008 , 09:50 PM
Pretty sure other sites will be coming during beta stage, but once other functionality is in place (custom reporting, new PAHUD etc.).

I seriously doubt they will release with a load of minimally tested sites.
02-25-2008 , 09:54 PM
Our goal is to support at least the top 6 sites on commercial release (http://pokerscout.com/), with many more to follow soon after.
02-26-2008 , 08:44 AM
The hand replayer doesn't count with ante? Will you fix it?
02-26-2008 , 09:42 AM
Will it be able to filter the number of tables being played at a time?

To clarify, Id like to know my different winrates when multi-tabling X # of
tables at a time.
02-26-2008 , 10:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smore
The hand replayer doesn't count with ante? Will you fix it?
The replayer should work fine with antes. If you've found a hand or hands where this doesn't work, please attach them to a support ticket for us to fix.


Quote:
Originally Posted by DeNutza
Will it be able to filter the number of tables being played at a time?

To clarify, Id like to know my different winrates when multi-tabling X # of
tables at a time.
While you can't filter by your MT ratio, you can sort by it, and compare your win rates that way.
02-26-2008 , 03:56 PM
version about to expire
when is the new beta coming?
another thing, can there be speed adjustment on hand replayer?
also, can adjusting size of hand replayer possible? say make it bigger or smaller.
is possible to have tag the HH i want to see replay, and have hand replayer doing continuation replay on multiper HH?
02-26-2008 , 04:29 PM
New beta will be out in a few hours. The hand replayer will be completely overhauled (the current version is mostly a placeholder). Almost everything will be adjustable, hopefully including the size of the window. Hand tagging will be possible through the HUD.
02-26-2008 , 05:47 PM
First I want to say that I have only read some of the replies so I'm not sure if these suggestions have been made,

1. Add to the HUD the "ability to add notes directly on the table while you play"
just like Pokerobserver:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...d.php?t=110802


2. Add luck and EV stats and graphs like PokerEv.

If you have these functions, then great! but if not will you add them to PT3?
02-26-2008 , 06:18 PM
Am wondering if the new Beta release will also include a look at the HUD, or is that still some time away?
02-26-2008 , 06:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deioces
First I want to say that I have only read some of the replies so I'm not sure if these suggestions have been made,

1. Add to the HUD the "ability to add notes directly on the table while you play"
just like Pokerobserver:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...d.php?t=110802


2. Add luck and EV stats and graphs like PokerEv.

If you have these functions, then great! but if not will you add them to PT3?
1. This will definitely be in the HUD.
2. This is planned as well.

Quote:
Originally Posted by adelaidecrows02
Am wondering if the new Beta release will also include a look at the HUD, or is that still some time away?
No, no HUD in this beta. You should get your first peek at the HUD in about two weeks... hopefully.
02-26-2008 , 06:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PokerAce
1. This will definitely be in the HUD.
2. This is planned as well.

hopefully.

Thanks! my life will get alot easier
And also to the nr 1 suggestion I had, please make it possible to write more in the "box" then the pokersites offer (if it will not will cause any trouble for the software?)

My 3rd suggestion is this that I borrowed in a pokerev post,
Quote:
"To me a killer stat to have in a HUD would be All-In EV.
If someone was .40- you know that they'd be likely to get it in on a draw.
If someone was .70+ you know they'd typically be 2-pair or better
Also do you have any new information on when the official relase will be?
02-26-2008 , 07:07 PM
An end of March release is looking possible, depending on how much trouble we have with the new features we add between now and then.
02-26-2008 , 08:47 PM
Beta 5 Released!

Added:
  • Custom statistics and reports
  • Multi-column sorting for reports
Fixed:
  • A few hand history accuracy bugs among other minor issues
  • Duplicate names during import

This beta introduces an extremely powerful and incredibly useful feature: Custom stats and reports.

Nearly any statistic you can dream up PT3 can support, and with our flexible design, anything that isn't currently possible should be made possible with small changes. Because the new system is so powerful and flexible, it's also a little complicated... though there's a good interface for it in the application, you don't have to mess with editing files on disk. It's best if you read through the documentation we have for it before attempting to create your own statistics. You can find the documentation here. Custom reports, on the other hand, are pretty easy to create. There's also documentation for that too, if you need it. Along with being able to create your own reports, you are now able to add and remove whatever statistics you want to most of the reports in PT3, including your custom stats! There are a few reports where you can't do this yet, but that's mostly because we ran out of time before the beta became due. They will be moved over soon.

This new addition to PT3 gives you an unprecedented level of customization. There's currently hundreds of statistics at your fingertips with more to come. Unfortunately, we didn't have the time to enter a complete stat list for the beta and some of the existing stats need touching up (mostly in the Categories area). So as we go, more and more stats will be added. We're also opening a repository on our website where you can upload your custom stats and reports for others to share. I guess I should mention that it's as simple as a few button clicks to export your stats and reports to share with others.

You shouldn't need to re-import hands with this version unless you were having stat accuracy issues, or the duplicate name issues.

The next beta version should have a much improved filtering system, and the beta after that... HUD!
02-26-2008 , 08:54 PM
just a suggestion, later when u need to set up other imports/sites u will need hands, why not set up mail accounts/adresss where ppl can send hhs.

this could help imho

like :

ipokerhh@pokertracker.com
everesthh@pokertracker.com

put up a litle page with a howto and u should get plenty hands in. (tell people what hands you need, nl,fl,10max,6max,hu,cah,sng,mtt....)

should be done very quickly and could save much time later.
02-26-2008 , 09:00 PM
That's a good idea. I wanted to set up a page on the site where people could submit their hand histories for us to use during testing. I'll try to get that up soon.
02-26-2008 , 10:36 PM
is reimport needed?
02-26-2008 , 10:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by allyasia
is reimport needed?
Quote:
Originally Posted by PokerAce
You shouldn't need to re-import hands with this version unless you were having stat accuracy issues, or the duplicate name issues.
.
02-26-2008 , 10:53 PM
I just downloaded PT3 today. I sure missed the boat not getting it earlier. It is awesome. Two small things I would like to see is the ability to sort the order of the stats shown (being able to move different stats next to each other and in different order on the general tab), and being able to use the new 3 bet stats on the positions tab. Other than that it looks awesome and I look forward to buying the finished product.

If I am on the button, UTG raises, CO 3bets, and I fold does that count as a fold to 3 bet in the fold to 3 bet stat? If so is there anyway to make it "folded to 3 bet given you made the initial raise"?

Last edited by mittman84; 02-26-2008 at 11:07 PM.
02-26-2008 , 11:37 PM
So I read the pdf and was trying to figure out how to do a custom stat.

I was wondering how to type:

% player calls a pfr and then raises a cb in and out of position and then follows up with a turn bet.

Thanks.
02-27-2008 , 01:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mittman84
I just downloaded PT3 today. I sure missed the boat not getting it earlier. It is awesome. Two small things I would like to see is the ability to sort the order of the stats shown (being able to move different stats next to each other and in different order on the general tab), and being able to use the new 3 bet stats on the positions tab. Other than that it looks awesome and I look forward to buying the finished product.

If I am on the button, UTG raises, CO 3bets, and I fold does that count as a fold to 3 bet in the fold to 3 bet stat? If so is there anyway to make it "folded to 3 bet given you made the initial raise"?
You can click the column headers to sort (CTRL + click to add more columns). The ability to permanently change the default sorting is coming.

You can add any three bet stat on the positions tab. It's not available in the individual hands report (but the stat could easily be added to the system). Just click the button to the right of the report that has a wrench on it.

In your example, yes, it would be considered a fold to a 3 bet. I plan on adding a stat that is only the % of time the player folds to a 3 bet when they are the original raiser, but it's not in there yet. Hopefully in the next beta version... that, or someone can create it themselves and share it. That's the beauty of the import/export functionality.


Quote:
Originally Posted by ICMoney
So I read the pdf and was trying to figure out how to do a custom stat.

I was wondering how to type:

% player calls a pfr and then raises a cb in and out of position and then follows up with a turn bet.

Thanks.
I think we should actually make this two stats. We'll call the first stat "Steals Control on Flop", then the second stat will be called "Bets Turn After SCF".

First, we need to determine how often the player calls a PFR and faces a continuation bet. This will be a column called cnt_f_cbet_def_opp. Here's the column value (all this is under the Holdem Cash Player Statistics section):

Code:
sum(if[holdem_hand_player_statistics.flg_f_cbet_def_opp, 1, 0])
We only need to check this one field. If it's true, we know the player called a preflop raise and is facing a continuation bet from the raiser.

Now that we know how many opportunities the player had, we need to find out how many times he raised the continuation bet: cnt_f_steal_control:

Code:
sum(if[holdem_hand_player_statistics.flg_f_cbet_def_opp AND holdem_hand_player_statistics.enum_t_cbet_action='R', 1, 0])
Now, for the stat, you put in "Steals Control on Flop" as the name, add the description you want, and in the Value Expression, you want:

Code:
(cnt_f_steal_control / cnt_f_cbet_def_opp) * 100
That puts the result into a percentage. For the Format Expression, you should put:

Code:
/%.2f
That's the first stat. I'll leave it as an exercise to the user to figure out the second part of the stat you want. Hint: use what we built above and build off of it.

Of course, this is all academic. This stat already exists, called "Raise F CBet", but I figured an example couldn't hurt.

Please, before any more of these are posted, let's not turn this thread into a "how do I make this stat" thread. I have no problems answering questions and helping out, but I would prefer these particular questions be asked on our own forum. Thanks!
02-27-2008 , 01:29 AM
Thanks. Just wondering.

No more academia. Wouldn't want to keep you from the HUD action.
02-27-2008 , 01:52 AM
When I filter for hands that were 3b on the flop I can only replay the same hands (99) and then have to go click back to the TT to see those hands. When I group by final hands instead of starting hands I can't replay any of them.


I'm wanting to replay all the hands in order of final pot size without having to click back and just see them grouped by starting values. Final pot would be better than $ won/lost b/c it would keep an unbiased opinion if I can't remember what happened in the hand.

Thanks.
02-27-2008 , 01:59 AM
I like all the filters for the reports. Could play with it forever. One question: When will it automatically update the stats when importing during your game? I guess that a HUD will update without this being enabled yet.

      
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