Thanks for pointing this out.
There was an app update a few weeks ago to refresh the UI for the latest macOS's. One of the changes was using an updated/better style for all buttons. This looks to have fixed the dimmed buttons' texts in dark mode glitch that you pointed out. Latest screenshot below.

Thanks! I think mostly I just needed confirmation that I was doing things right and thinking through the math accurately. I've had to brush a lot of cobwebs off of my math skills since I started the poker study, so when the work I'm doing doesn't match up with the answer key it can be frustrating. Very much appreciate you taking the time to reply, and now I probably have a deeper way of thinking about the 2 pair situation than if you had the same definition as the other program that need not be named.

I definitely am not qualified yet to argue which definition of 2 pair is more useful, and your reasoning makes complete sense.

I will say that, as I am doing these poker math workbooks (the pre-flop and post-flop ones made by James Sweeney/splitsuit), there are a couple minor categories of hands that would be useful. If it's practical to include in a future update, it would be cool if there was an options menu where users could choose to add in these stats. I get that they're probably a little to obscure to be worth crowding the default interface with. I'm not sure how many people buy (or actually complete) his or similar math workbooks, so obviously your decision in terms of whether it's worth adding to your app--these are just the stats that would be slightly helpful in my exact situation.

Here are the hands that it would be convenient to be able to break out specific stats for:

Underpairs
2.5th pair / PP below second card
3.5th pair /PP below third card
4.5th pair /PP below 4th card.
2 pair not including pairs on the board (again, just as an extra stat to add in, I have no horse in the race as to whether this the default definition.


I have been able to complete almost every other part of these math workbooks perfectly using Poker Cruncher. The only other functionality that was missing in the worksheet was the ability to predict flop textures. I believe that I read in an earlier post that you felt this wasn't practical for the app since it is focused on equity calculations--again, no problem, just thought I'd mention it since it came up for my specific case.

Here's the type of question where this comes up in these math workbooks:

1. How often is the flop monotone, vs rainbow, vs two-tone?

2. How often is the flop Jack high and unpaired?

You're welcome; I'm happy to discuss this program. I commend you on your poker study and dedication. I offer a 2c suggestion though that for what you study, add an element of practicality and utility in actual game hand situations/thinking, vs. just as a detailed exhaustive academic exercise.


I think you and most of us are qualified. In my last reply on this I gave a high level common sense reason why I believe that other program's definition of hitting TwoPair doesn't seem right. The various poker hands OnePair, TwoPair, 3OfAKind, etc. are listed in this specific order because in general they get harder to hit/make as you go from left to right, hence their value increases from left to right. That other program, for your pretty generic/balanced decently wide range Top15% of hands, says it's *4x easier* to hit 3OfAKind than TwoPair on the flop. How does this make sense? PokerCruncher on this example gives the common sense expected result, that it's harder to hit 3OfAKind than TwoPair.



Ok I'll keep this stats/feature suggestion in mind for the future, when I have nothing to do (ha ha). But I have to be honest and say I have no desire to add these additional stats. My goal in PokerCruncher is not to "stat match" or feature match various other programs in this space, but to have the stats and features that are the most important and the most bang for the buck for us in hand analysis and thinking. For example in the OnePair category, I see a lot of value in the stats OverPair, TopPair, SecondPair, BottomPair, 1.5th Pair, and PokerCruncher-Expert has these stats. I see less value in 3.5th, 4.5th, etc. pairs. I won't say never, but currently I don't have a burning desire to add in such less useful features just to feature match some other program which to me has already made some un-wise choices and decisions on some stats (like in the definition of hitting TwoPair discussed above). Similarly for the predicting flop textures thing, which I think is interesting from an academic perspective, but I wonder how useful that is in actual game hand analysis.

I noticed that the first card on the board (at least under certain conditions) does not calculate as part of the players hand. See the screenshot, should be 100% 4 of a kind, but shows only a 3 of a kind.

This is happening because you have set DealTo = Flop. This ends the hand/situation at the flop cards, so the turn and river cards aren't considered (note that they are grayed out / dimmed). Set DealTo back to "River" and you will see 4OfAKind.

DealTo = xxx is an advanced feature, for example it lets us do flop/turn texture analysis against a hand range. Tutorial section (uses iPhone version screenshots but the idea is the same):

https://www.pokercruncher.com/ipPoke...ToFlopAnalysis

One other thing here, you have a board card selected (clicked), vs. a player card/field selected. This makes the Stats view show the winning hand's stats, vs. Player1's or Player2's stats (the Stats view's title says "Stats: Winning Hand"). Here that may be what you wanted to see, but usually we want to see one of the player's stats, so we should select/click on a player card/field to do that.

Thanks for using PokerCruncher-Expert. Regards, -RJ

Thank you very much for the quick response!! Very helpful!

I have been using Pokercruncher for a while with no problems and then suddenly I get the message :

Pokercruncher is damaged and can't be opened. Delete Pokercruncher and download it again from the app store.
This happened a few weeks ago and I just worked on something else. When I came back a few days later it worked fine without a new download. This time I deleted, redownloaded , restarted,... and I still get the same error message when I try to open Pokercruncher.
Any help with this?

Using a macbook air M1 chip OS 12.6.
I don't know what version of pokercruncher I am on since I can't open it

Ah, this glitch, more than a few people have written in over the years on email about this.
It's a macOS system glitch that happens (to possibly any app) sometimes eg after you install a macOS system update etc (have you recently?).

This article has some suggested fixes:

https://osxdaily.com/2019/02/13/fix-...ash-error-mac/

You already tried their first suggestion: delete PokerCruncher.app and redownload it from MacAppStore, usually this fixes this. Of course, export all your saved hand ranges outside the app first so you can import them back in.

Restarting your Mac after each try also helps.

It sounds like you will have to try their 4) suggestion, run their xattr command in the terminal. I'm away from my Mac right now but I believe the full path to this app on Mac is ~/Applications/PokerCruncher.app

Can you take a look at this article and try all their suggestions?
I'll check back in later today to see how it goes.

Also there are prob other articles online that will help, a Google search on this macOS error message will turn these up.

Looks like the path to the app on Mac is just /Applications/PokerCruncher.app
(without the ~)

I tried to open it this morning and it opened fine and then this afternoon I got the error message again.

I will try to download the latest system software and then try the other suggestions and check in tomorrow.

I am at least 1 macOS behind because the last 2 times I updated my system OS I was unable to be geolocated by PokerstarsNJ and couldn't play. Both times support said it was a known problem and I shouldn't have updated as soon as the new OS was released and both times it took a month for them to fix the problem, so I have been hesitant to use the newest OS. I will do a backup and try the newest system software and hope PokerstarsNJ software team can get on this in under a month since I am sure I will get locked out again since PokerstarsNJ has some of the worst support online.

Sounds like your main problem here is PokerstarsNJ; their software needs to run on the latest macOS.

It's possible that the error message you're getting on launching PokerCruncher-Expert may go away after you upgrade your macOS. The error message is a known macOS issue/bug and can happen to any app not just PokerCruncher if/when somehow your machine system software and files wind up in a bad state. The website link I sent should help. Do keep me posted if remains unresolved. Regards, -RJ

Crossed my fingers and updated my macOs and pokercruncher works now, and so far Pokerstars NJ does also.

hope that continues. I have far more faith in pokercruncher continuing to work that I do PokerstarsNJ

Good news that updating macOS fixed things.

Imo the PokerCruncher app itself, there was/is nothing wrong with, everyone else can launch/run it fine. I believe the issues were, unclean / slightly corrupted system files on your Mac, and PokerStarsNJ issue with running fully cleanly on the latest macOS.

Answering this here in the PokerCruncher-Expert-Mac thread.
Yes this is possible to do, screenshot below.

Can't have zero players; to do this set number of players to 1, and give Player1 the all-hands range (top 100% of hands, can use the range slider to enter this).
Then enter your flop, set DealTo=Flop, and calculate.

Then with Player1 selected in the LHS of the window, you can mouse over the stats to see how many combos are in each stat. In the screenshot, we're mousing over the 3OfAKind stat and the 9 combos that hit this stat are shown in red in the range grid, along with the number of combos at the top right part of the view (9/1176 combos).

One other thing here, as in the screenshot above we usually want to turn ON the two checkbox settings "View Card Removal Effect" and "View Hand Combo Counts". They're in the range editor view.