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Originally Posted by in7inyaxa7en
Hey there.
In Poker Cruncher (Mac Expert) is there a way to filter out select hands from a "made hands" filter.
Let's say for example:
- Villian holds all Pocket Pairs pre-flop
- The flop comes 8d 9d 3c
- I think Villian likely folds out [22, 44, 55] but keeps in 66 and 77 for one more street
High card is another good example, I often have scenarios where high card might cover 20 - 30 hole card pairings, but I only want to keep in the higher AX and KX holdings. In that scenario I have to either filter them all out, then manually add back in. Or keep them all in, and manually figure out which are high card only and remove them.
Flush draws are another, perhaps I expect them to continue with nut, 2nd nut and 3rd nut flushes, but fold out weaker combos.
I can do it manually, but it's a bit of a pain having to work through each combo and work out if it hits any other combos that I don't want to. I guess what I want to tell the program is "Filter out 55 as part of the One Pair filter, but keep it in if it hits other selected filters".
Another thing that can be a pain when trying to filter out a specific part of a made hand range is remembering which hands were part of the range.
So I'm just wondering if there is any way to set the filters in such a way to make that happen? Or is there anything that helps towards that kind of need?
I think this is the equivalent functionality in Flopzilla - https://arc.net/l/quote/hpjkgkdq
Distinguishing between {22, 44, 55} and {66, 77} here is kind of delicate, they are all mainly weak pairs on this flop. {66, 77} do have a backdoor straight draw which would be a reason for keeping them. This app does not have a built-in way to make this distinction. But I think I'm ok with this because I don't think we can view any auto filtering operation as giving the exact/final range we want, some additional fixup work by hand is usually needed.
In recent years solvers have shown us that ranges/hands are not as clear cut and off/on as we once thought they were e.g. solvers usually recommend split %age actions with most hands. So what you can do here is use the filter operation to get you most of the way there, and do some removal afterwards e.g. remove 22, 44, 55 entirely, and keep 77, and keep 66 but at a 50% weighting only (use the %age weight feature). Having an auto filtering operation to get us exactly to this point across the board in all situations would be hard imo.
As you do your range work, use the saved range slots to store the original villain range, filtered range, your manual iterations, etc.
Same for Ax Kx etc high cards, I suggest manual fixups.
For flush draws the app does have a "Nut Flush Draw" stat that you can filter on, but not K high, Q high etc. stats, I suggest manual fixups for these.
> Another thing that can be a pain when trying to filter out a specific part of a made hand range is remembering which hands were part of the range.
Using the 200 internal saved range slots will help with this, you can then go back and forth between all versions/iterations of villain's and hero's ranges.