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01-22-2009 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by fnord_too
Bleh, guess I wasn't selected (or it slipped through, I manually delete things from my junk mail folder, since I don't get too much spam).
Send an email to support@pokersleuth.com. Everyone who applied should have received an email, one way or the other.
01-22-2009 , 06:20 PM
i have 1.3.0.359. is that the latest version.
01-22-2009 , 06:28 PM
Ok i'm still a little confussed on how to read these stats. For example one player at my table is showing as 14-71 3-18 0-100
1-96 0.060.78

Why is it showing 2 numbers for every stat?
01-22-2009 , 07:11 PM

The modeled data has the same shape as the model, but the model is too steep, and reaches the top, which it shouldn't, according to the data it models.
01-22-2009 , 11:10 PM
Anyone know how to tell poker sleuth to look in my processed hand histories to get historic data?
01-23-2009 , 12:37 AM
Ok i just upgraded to version that came out today and it is dling hands as i play like it should but their is a problem. Every one has exactly the same stats. This did not happen untill i upgraded. Also last night i was multi tabling at cereus and at 1 table all the stat boxes went black.
01-23-2009 , 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by █████

The modeled data has the same shape as the model, but the model is too steep, and reaches the top, which it shouldn't, according to the data it models.
I'm afraid I haven't explained the figure well enough. The model isn't trying to match the data as tightly as possible, which is why they don't match. :-)

Each player has some true value P, which we would like to model.

We observe data, D, which is a function of P.

The data, D, has extra variance since for many players we have a small number of samples (extra variance makes the shape less steep).

We make a model, M, that approximates P by subtracting out the extra variance from D.

Does that make sense?

Last edited by Agthorr; 01-23-2009 at 10:42 AM. Reason: Fixed grammatical error
01-23-2009 , 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by grumpy64
Ok i'm still a little confussed on how to read these stats. For example one player at my table is showing as 14-71 3-18 0-100
1-96 0.060.78

Why is it showing 2 numbers for every stat?
The two number are a range that are likely to contain the player's true playing style. When you have only a little information on a player, the range is very wide, and it will gradually narrow as you accumulate more information on them.

If you prefer one number, you can change what Poker Sleuth displays by right clicking the tray icon and choosing Options.

See also Issue59.
01-23-2009 , 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by fnord_too
Anyone know how to tell poker sleuth to look in my processed hand histories to get historic data?
If you are using HEM, PT2, or PT3, then Poker Sleuth should detect where the hand histories are moved after processing. If that's not working, please open a bug report.

We are working on adding a tab to the Options that will allow you to manually add other paths (Issue77), as well.
01-23-2009 , 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by grumpy64
Ok i just upgraded to version that came out today and it is dling hands as i play like it should but their is a problem. Every one has exactly the same stats. This did not happen untill i upgraded.
Several questions that will help us understand the problem:

- Are everyone's stats always the same, are does this just happen sometimes?
- Were the stats updating after each hand?
- If they were updating, were they updating in sync, or did they gradually become different from one another?

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Originally Posted by grumpy64
Also last night i was multi tabling at cereus and at 1 table all the stat boxes went black.
Thanks for letting us know. We're working on the black-box problem.
01-23-2009 , 11:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Agthorr
The two number are a range that are likely to contain the player's true playing style. When you have only a little information on a player, the range is very wide, and it will gradually narrow as you accumulate more information on them.

If you prefer one number, you can change what Poker Sleuth displays by right clicking the tray icon and choosing Options.

See also Issue59.
ty now to my second question. Why is it showing the exact same stats for every player ?
01-23-2009 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Agthorr
Several questions that will help us understand the problem:

- Are everyone's stats always the same, are does this just happen sometimes?
- Were the stats updating after each hand?
- If they were updating, were they updating in sync, or did they gradually become different from one another?



Thanks for letting us know. We're working on the black-box problem.
the stats are always the same and have been frozen in place since installed
the latest update. Also how can i load my pt3 db into sleuth?
01-23-2009 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Agthorr
If you are using HEM, PT2, or PT3, then Poker Sleuth should detect where the hand histories are moved after processing. If that's not working, please open a bug report.

We are working on adding a tab to the Options that will allow you to manually add other paths (Issue77), as well.
HEM moves them one place, I import them into PT3, then I manually move them into another place. Not having one tracker HUD to meet all my needs makes me very non standard otoh, that is why I am interested in your hud/tracker!
01-23-2009 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by grumpy64
the stats are always the same and have been frozen in place since installed
the latest update.
Sounds like a bug. What poker site are you playing at? Can you send a screenshot to support@pokersleuth.com?

If in the Options you select "Instances/Opportunities", do all the stats become "0/0"?

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Originally Posted by grumpy64
Also how can i load my pt3 db into sleuth?
Poker Sleuth doesn't yet support importing directly from a PT3 database, only from the original hand histories. If you have PT3 moving the original hand histories to a folder, Poker Sleuth should automatically detect the folder. If you've deleted them, you will need to export them from the PT3 database.

Sometime next week, we will have better support for viewing the list of folders that Poker Sleuth has detected and adding folders manually.
01-23-2009 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Agthorr
Sounds like a bug. What poker site are you playing at? Can you send a screenshot to support@pokersleuth.com?

If in the Options you select "Instances/Opportunities", do all the stats become "0/0"?



Poker Sleuth doesn't yet support importing directly from a PT3 database, only from the original hand histories. If you have PT3 moving the original hand histories to a folder, Poker Sleuth should automatically detect the folder. If you've deleted them, you will need to export them from the PT3 database.

Sometime next week, we will have better support for viewing the list of folders that Poker Sleuth has detected and adding folders manually.
selecting options does indeed cause all the stats to become 0/0
01-23-2009 , 04:16 PM
cereus
01-24-2009 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by grumpy64
cereus
Absolute Poker or Ultimate Bet? Are you playing cash ring games or tournaments? Limit or No Limit or Pot Limit?

It sounds like Poker Sleuth is either unable to locate your recent hand histories or is unable to parse the hand histories that it finds. We're working on adding more feedback to Poker Sleuth so you can see where it is looking for hand histories and which files have parse failures. Hopefully, we'll have that in place sometime next week. I'll let you know when its ready and then we can track down the root cause of the problem you're experiencing.

Thanks,
Daniel
01-24-2009 , 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Agthorr
Absolute Poker or Ultimate Bet? Are you playing cash ring games or tournaments? Limit or No Limit or Pot Limit?

It sounds like Poker Sleuth is either unable to locate your recent hand histories or is unable to parse the hand histories that it finds. We're working on adding more feedback to Poker Sleuth so you can see where it is looking for hand histories and which files have parse failures. Hopefully, we'll have that in place sometime next week. I'll let you know when its ready and then we can track down the root cause of the problem you're experiencing.

Thanks,
Daniel
i play a mix of 6 max limit and full ring nl at ub
01-29-2009 , 05:28 PM
Just to give everyone a heads up, our lead developer (err... oh, right, that's me!) came down with a fever on Tuesday, so our progress this week is much slower than usual.
01-30-2009 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by EazyDoesIt
One very important question: Have you contacted the poker sites to make sure all the futures in your program are legal at there site, so your customers don't get in trouble?
I am pleased to announce that Poker Sleuth is now listed as one of the explicitly permitted tools at Poker Stars.
02-07-2009 , 06:06 AM
I have not gotten a email for a bets update in almost 2 weeks. Just wondering if you are gonna continue with this project Agthorr .
02-07-2009 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by grumpy64
I have not gotten a email for a bets update in almost 2 weeks. Just wondering if you are gonna continue with this project Agthorr .
I had a serious infection that greatly hampered my development efforts over the last two weeks. The side effects of the heavy-duty antibiotics haven't been a lot of fun, either.

The good news is that I'm pretty much done with the antibiotics now and on Monday I can get back to working my butt off. :-)

Here's my rough list of priorities:
  1. Fix crashes (1 left to fix, I think)
  2. Allow user to see which hand history directories Poker Sleuth detected, add directories manually, identify files Poker Sleuth couldn't understand, etc. (70% done)
  3. Fix HUD hiccups
  4. Fix import/statistics errors
  5. Allow users to create their own statistics to track
  6. Other features
02-07-2009 , 07:37 PM
Agthorr,

One tremendously powerful thing this tool could do (which it may already) is get a good model of players push, fold and call ranges when stack to blind ratios get high in STT/MTTs.

This would be a little tricky, since players play differently vs. different opponents (good players that is) and depending on the situation, but I think that the scenarios could be narrowed down to 5 of 6 representative ones. (Like effective big stack on the bubble, small stack on the bubble, mid stacked on the bubble, low stack to blinds not on the bubble, etc.) That of course makes for some hefty data requirements to get good models, but I think STT regs at least get them. (And I have a few more thoughts on this subject, but am pressed for time atm.)
02-08-2009 , 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Agthorr
I had a serious infection that greatly hampered my development efforts over the last two weeks. The side effects of the heavy-duty antibiotics haven't been a lot of fun, either.

The good news is that I'm pretty much done with the antibiotics now and on Monday I can get back to working my butt off. :-)

Here's my rough list of priorities:
  1. Fix crashes (1 left to fix, I think)
  2. Allow user to see which hand history directories Poker Sleuth detected, add directories manually, identify files Poker Sleuth couldn't understand, etc. (70% done)
  3. Fix HUD hiccups
  4. Fix import/statistics errors
  5. Allow users to create their own statistics to track
  6. Other features
sorry to hear about you infection and hope you are doing better.
02-17-2009 , 06:08 AM
ok i just installed the latest update. Version 1.3.0.456. I'm still getting the same stats for all players.

      
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