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05-19-2009 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ffr
I'm having the same exact bet sizing problem on both PS and FT. And yes, the problem is all the time. Pokershiortcuts never enters in the correct bet size in the bet window for full pot. Sometimes it enters in the amount that is currently in the pot and sometimes it enters in an amount less then the minim bet amount allowed.

I enabled debugging and took a screen shot of a PS table for you to take a look at:





FTSC works perfect with my current table mod so I'm still holding out hope that once I fix the bet sizes issue with PS it will also fix it for FT as the problem seems to be the same for both.

I did recalibrate my FT table without any board cards after Fozzy suggested (and now the colors match the felt color), but that didn't help the bet sizing problem.
Thanks for the detailed picture! It was very helpful.

The software is not detecting your buttons (call=0, fold=0) and the call amount is wrong (which it reads off the call button). The only thing I can think of at the moment is that you don't have the TableTheme set to PSTableHyperSimple on the Setup tab. Please verify that for me.

I'm sure your FT table will have at least one problem, that is related to the problem we are seeing with your stars table... Your FT buttons are non-standard, and the software will not be able to read the call amount off of those buttons, as PSC uses image recognition to read the call amount. FTSC used a different method to read the call amount (that was incorrect in certain positions at the table, like when you were seated in the small blind). Fozzy may be able to tell you how to re-install the standard buttons on your table.

The only other issue I see is that you are not seated in seat 3 at the table. This doesn't cause much of a problem at ring game tables, but it will prevent the software from determining your stack size and the number of seats/players at the table... which of often needed for displaying info about tourney/sng tables. Check #2 configuraton item here:
http://www.windyhilltech.com/poker/p...php#PokerStars

nanochip

Last edited by nanochip; 05-19-2009 at 01:11 PM.
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05-19-2009 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Respawn
As I said, I had not been using StarsPlanner when the problem with Poker Shortcuts regarding resizing of tables occured.

It is a problem caused by Poker Shortcuts' Table2 tab resizing feature and can be recreated the way I described it (I just tried it again with only 5 tables and it happened. Just open Stars first then Poker Shortcuts and use "Table2" resizing)
Hey Respawn,

lol... you must I'm blind.

I was finally able to duplicate what you are seeing after trying many things. And it does looks like "flashing". It seems to only happen at some table sizes. I don't know what is causing it yet, but I'm working on it.

thanks for your persistence and testing!

nano
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05-19-2009 , 01:06 PM
Thanks for working on it!
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05-19-2009 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Respawn
Nanochip, I just wanted to make sure you read this feature suggestion since I don't think you have replied to it yet. Sorry if you have already, don't wanna be a pain

How about "automatically click info tab" and "automatically refresh info tab" for tournaments?

I currently have an external script running that automatically clicks the info tab and refreshes it as soon as a table is activated.
TableNinja does this intermittently for all (visible?) tables, which is great. I'm not that experienced with AHK scripting so I haven't been able to do that yet, but you should be able to do that with ease?

(Maybe you could make it so that if the player manually clicks the "Chat" tab it overrides the "auto click Info" on that table or something until "Info" is clicked again manually by the player. Or do something similar so that you can read the chat box at a given table without info being clicked again on that table. It's not all that important but would probably be better than manually having to deactivate the "auto info / auto refresh" feature every time you have to / want to look at the chat box.)
I do have this feature request high on the wish list. Thanks for your thoughts on how this should work... Let's kick this around a little more.

So, PSC could have a checkbox that says: Auto click the Info-Refresh button when the Info-Refresh button is visible.

That way the user could click Chat and look at the chat area, and when he wanted to see the Info, he manually clicks the Info button, and then the software will then continually refresh it.

How important is it that the software clicks the Info button when the table is first opened?

nano
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05-19-2009 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by nanochip
How important is it that the software clicks the Info button when the table is first opened?

nano
Very important imo. When I load up a ton of tournaments, aside from having to act at all tables, clicking the info tab on every single table would be quite tedious.

Right now with my external script the "default" for every table is Info tab open + auto click refresh which is nice for mass tabling.

For me personally, a perfect setup would be that it opens the info tab and auto refreshes intermittently on all visible tables (would be 4 for me since I stack) if I click on Chat, however, it should override the "auto open info tab" on that table until I manually click on the Info tab on that table.

That sounds like it's a bit of work so if it takes too much time away from things that need your immediate attention you could just do something like this for now:

[x] Auto refresh Info tab on all visible tables
[x] Auto open Info tab on all visible tables
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05-19-2009 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Respawn
This doesn't really relate to that question but how exactly does the new method work?
I have only tested it with PokerStars so far and there always seemed to be a strong bias towards one of the buyin levels. I had the lobby set up to show two types of sit and goes (same kind of tournament, two different buyin levels), had those specified as SnG 1 and 2, checked their checkboxes on SnG B.

In FTShortcuts it used to just register as soon as it "saw" the games in the lobby (and the criteria were met...). With Stars it doesn't seem to properly scan through all the games in the lobby or something. I had sessions were I manually loaded one type of SnG 2 and then started the session in Poker Shortcuts and it literally only opened tournaments of SnG 1's type.

It's also hard to open SnG's manually in the Stars lobby when a "session" is running because it seems like Poker Shortcuts forces the lowermost sit and go to be selected. Maybe that's also why it prefers to register those?!

I don't know if this is intended but I don't think there should be a bias towards any of the specified SnG's. It should just check the lobby if any of the ones with a checked checkbox on SnG B are visible and go ahead and register them as soon as they are like FTShortcuts used to do.

(Using Windows XP, Cleartype, Lobby text largest, Black lobby theme, Lobby visible on its own dedicated screen.)
The way PSC works for opening sngs is that it tries to open the first enabled Sng (checkboxes on the sngB tab), then the 2nd, and so forth. It starts by looking at the top of the PS lobby (for that particular enabled sng), and works it's way down (trying to find an image match).

There will be a bias toward opening sngs that are listed nearer the top of the lobby, but there shouldn't be a bias toward a particular sng that you have enabled.

The software will make one try to open the first enabled sng, and then it will try the second, and back to the first (if there are 2 enabled).

nanochip
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05-19-2009 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by King Spew
>>Originally Posted by flight2q
>>>Full Tilt. In DM: Out mode and autopost has been unchecked on all tables. In big blind on 1 table. The next hand, FTP prompts to post SB. PSC posts the SB, and CHECKS the autopost blinds box. Now in DM: Out at that table, but with autopost checked, and I don't get dealt out on the next BB.

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This part does not work the same as FTSC used to work. You now need to set up a HotKey to do the dirty work. On the DealMe page, set up a HotKey for "Active Table Mode Toggle Key..." (I use F1).
I found this irritating that I couldn't just uncheck autopost anymore. But then I changed the DealMeActiveTableOnly to MButton and I'm happy I had a spare mouse function so I don't have to use the keyboard for this.

Nevertheless, the bug I mentioned quoted above is still there.
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05-19-2009 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by nanochip
Thanks for the detailed picture! It was very helpful.

The software is not detecting your buttons (call=0, fold=0) and the call amount is wrong (which it reads off the call button). The only thing I can think of at the moment is that you don't have the TableTheme set to PSTableHyperSimple on the Setup tab. Please verify that for me.
I can confirm that I have PSTableHyperSimple entered in the Setup tab. Can you think of any other troublshooting steps to try and get the bet sizing working for PS?


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Originally Posted by nanochip
I'm sure your FT table will have at least one problem, that is related to the problem we are seeing with your stars table... Your FT buttons are non-standard, and the software will not be able to read the call amount off of those buttons, as PSC uses image recognition to read the call amount. FTSC used a different method to read the call amount (that was incorrect in certain positions at the table, like when you were seated in the small blind). Fozzy may be able to tell you how to re-install the standard buttons on your table.
This is a bummer. I like my current table mod and was hoping Pokershortcuts would work with it because FTSC does. I'll see if Fozzy has any suggestions for getting the "default" buttoms in with my table mod.
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05-19-2009 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by nanochip
Thanks for letting me know... I need a few more details as I am not able to duplicate this problem.

kk and Annuit: what are your settings on the Table1 tab?

Annuit: are your tables stacked, cascaded or tiled? What poker sites?

kk: what poker site are you having this problem with? Do you just have tables from one poker site in the cascade (you need to just have one poker site in a give cascade... make 2 cascades if you intermix FT and PS tables)? Can you email me a screen capture of your table layout?

Any other clues?

nanochip
I only checked on Table1 one "Auto-Activate the next table with pending action"
and
"Auto activate the table the mouse is over"
Only FTP 16 talbes stacked.
I upload my settings on RS maybe it helps you.
http://rapidshare.com/files/234964814/Settings.rar
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05-19-2009 , 07:10 PM
For some reason i am unable to calibrate the empty seats using certain backgrounds on FT. Jungle theme and beach theme produce all kinds of different colours after calibration. As a result, during game play, PSC is not calculating the # of remaining players properly as players get eliminated. All the other backgrounds calibtrate fine, so i know my settings are ok otherwise none of the background themes would calibrate properly. To confuse matters even further, none of the empty seats calibrate properly in the Beta version of Full Tilt. I get the following error message: "Problem occurred while calibrating table empty seat colours: The Full Tilt table appears to be covered at seat 1".
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05-19-2009 , 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Bishop22
I am pretty sure it will affect some features of the program, I dropped an all black background on hyper simple during early beta testing and had to revert, don't remember which features were affected off hand.
black background on hyper simple on stars doesn't work for me. It doesn't automatically put the street bet amount in the betting box, but is left at 0 instead.
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05-19-2009 , 11:12 PM
plz get the program support the shiny theme on stars, thx!
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05-19-2009 , 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Tyler
black background on hyper simple on stars doesn't work for me. It doesn't automatically put the street bet amount in the betting box, but is left at 0 instead.
It needs to be 'almost' black, but not pure black (hex# 000000). Here is one that is hex# 0F0F0F that seems to work fine. I tried hex# 050505 and was getting preset raise amounts of 0.00.

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05-19-2009 , 11:46 PM
that fixed it!
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05-20-2009 , 01:00 AM
There should be an option for PSC to automatically take a seat for you like table ninja has.

edit: are there any AHK's out there that can do this for u?

Last edited by Tyler; 05-20-2009 at 01:02 AM. Reason: hovercraft
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05-20-2009 , 01:17 AM
any way to make the hotkeys work while the mouse pointer is in the chatbox?
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05-20-2009 , 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by King Spew
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Originally Posted by R_Andersen
I just dowloaded PSC yesterday and have this same problem/complaint.

Without PSC running and the FT software set to "Display table on action" the tables pop up instantly, but with PSC running and FT "display table on action" disabled I have the same 1-3 second delay before the table gets activated with the red border and the bet amount gets entered.

Is this ALWAYS a problem or just sometime? TBH, I rarely see a delay with tables popping up unless I am having a bad network connection day. And I do mean RARELY.

I also have a reoccuring problem where if I click on a non-active table, PSC sometimes looses the queue and I end up having to manually click on all of the tables with pending action 1 by 1 until I get caught up and then PSC seems to start working properly again.

Egads, I've never seen this one either. If I have a pending table and I click on another table to activate, once I am done with the second table, my mouse has always gone back to the first table. I don't think I remember this being a FTSC issue either.
What is your computer setup?


FYI, I play 16 tables on FT in a combination stacked/tiled arrangment with 9 tabled tiled with overlap and another 6 tables tiled on top of the original 9.

Thanks,
Rob
I'm still having these problems with the delay in activating tables and the loss of the queue. To add to the info above, it seems like when I open up HEM (it's usually minimized to the tray) and then minimize it again, PSC then almost always looses the queue and stops activating the tables unitl I manually cycle through all tables requiring action.

Also, another bug I noticed is with the 'Deal Me' mode. I have F1 set to 'active table toggle' and F2 set to 'all tables toggle'. When I hit F2 twice to deal me out at all tables, it only unchecks the 'auto post blinds' box on the tables where the box is visible. It does not have any effect on buried tables.

Thanks,
Rob
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05-20-2009 , 10:01 AM
One other question, is there a timeframe to release a version that is compatible with the new FTP beta client?

Thanks,
Rob
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05-20-2009 , 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by R_Andersen
One other question, is there a timeframe to release a version that is compatible with the new FTP beta client?

Thanks,
Rob
I don't have any time estimate for this yet. I don't want to release it much before Full Tilt releases it from beta, because they are still making changes to it which affects Shortcuts.

nano
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05-20-2009 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by King Spew
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Originally Posted by R_Andersen
I'm still having these problems with the delay in activating tables and the loss of the queue. To add to the info above, it seems like when I open up HEM (it's usually minimized to the tray) and then minimize it again, PSC then almost always looses the queue and stops activating the tables unitl I manually cycle through all tables requiring action.

Also, another bug I noticed is with the 'Deal Me' mode. I have F1 set to 'active table toggle' and F2 set to 'all tables toggle'. When I hit F2 twice to deal me out at all tables, it only unchecks the 'auto post blinds' box on the tables where the box is visible. It does not have any effect on buried tables.

Thanks,
Rob
Your queue problem is very strange, and I'm not able to duplicate this. I'd really like to see this and try to get it fixed. Could we set up a TeamViewer session to try to resolve this? Please pm or email me at the address on our contact page.

Re: Deal Me Mode... yes, Deal Me Mode only works with tables that are visible and will not work correctly with stacked or cascaded tables. Since so much is done with image recognition for this feature, it is limited to tiled tables. Thanks for letting me know... I have clarified the documentation and the trouble shooting tip on deal me mode.

nanochip
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05-20-2009 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Tyler
any way to make the hotkeys work while the mouse pointer is in the chatbox?
no, the hotkeys are turned off when in the chat box, so that you can type messages in the chat box, and not have to worry about typing a key that might fold a big hand.

You can assign a key to move you in and out of the chat box area on the Actions2 tab (if that helps you).

nano
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05-20-2009 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Tyler
There should be an option for PSC to automatically take a seat for you
I have this feature on the to do list, but it probably won't be implemented until PSC is out of Beta test.

nano
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05-20-2009 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ekinnehs18
plz get the program support the shiny theme on stars, thx!
I'll add some additional themes after the software is out of beta test.

There is documentation on the web site for making new themes work... but it takes some technical work to do.

nanochip
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05-20-2009 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by demoneyez
For some reason i am unable to calibrate the empty seats using certain backgrounds on FT. Jungle theme and beach theme produce all kinds of different colours after calibration. As a result, during game play, PSC is not calculating the # of remaining players properly as players get eliminated. All the other backgrounds calibtrate fine, so i know my settings are ok otherwise none of the background themes would calibrate properly. To confuse matters even further, none of the empty seats calibrate properly in the Beta version of Full Tilt. I get the following error message: "Problem occurred while calibrating table empty seat colours: The Full Tilt table appears to be covered at seat 1".
Thanks for letting me know about these two theme problems. It may be that those two themes are problematic since the seats are all different colors. I'll check it out and see if it might be a limitation.

PSC is not compatible with the new beta from Full Tilt yet.

nano
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05-20-2009 , 03:28 PM
nanochip,
How long would it approximately take you to make PSC work with Full Tilt's new client once it comes out? I dread the days on which I'll have to play without FTShortcuts/PSC...
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