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Hi, quick question just out of curiosity:
when I want to solve a tree using ranges I got from the preflop solver, I always delete the combos with weight < 0.01, in order to save time.

SHould I also raise to weight = 1 all the combos that have weight 0.99x ? does that improve speed, to have combos at weight = 1, or all that matters is the number of combos with weight != 0 ?

It only matters if the combo is in range or not (has weight bigger than 0). If it's 0.01 or 1.0 doesn't influence the speed. If you remove a lot of hands with very small weights you may want to adjust your range back to original frequency though.

Hello,

I'm very impressed with this software and am looking to buy it either today or tomorrow. I have a few questions though I was hoping you could first help me with:

1) If I buy PIOSolver basic and decide to get a new computer, will I need to re-buy the software? Or can my activation code be transferred to my new computer?

2) I'm not particularly great with computers and software and general. How difficult in general is scripting? If I wanted to get a general sense of "How frequently should the button CB in single raised pots against the BB when 100BB deep compared to 30BB deep" how hard is this for me to do?

I just want some rough sense of this as I'm debating buying the basic or the pro version. Can it be upgraded later?

3) I'm looking to upgrade my ram today after I purchase this. For 100BB single raised pots with 3 or 4 bet sizings on each street, do you have a recommended amount of ram?

Thank you!!

Yes. While our licenses are not intended as floating ones we allow moving them from computer to computer within limits (for travelling, new computers, experiments etc.). The default number of times you can do it is 6 but we have no problems increasing it as long as we have no reasons to think the license is abused.

For the very simple case of running a lot of trees with the same structure but different flop: very easy. For more complicated things: more complicated.

Very easy. First you follow the instructions how to generate/run a simple script, here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhG_YsEvfwU (question number 6)

and then you follow the instructions how to run a multifile aggregation report, here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ozjfnatwms (question number 5)

This basically comes down to setting up the tree structure, choosing flops you want to run it on (or generating random ones or using flop subsets prepared by us) and then waiting till the script completes.

Yes.

So somehow the idea that 3 or 4 bet sizes per decision is "reasonable tree" becomes common opinion since it's now possible to build them on a decent desktop PC. I think this is absolutely humongous tree which you shouldn't attempt to run unless for occasional experiment. That being said if you limit yourself to one raise size and maybe don't include all sizes for donk bets etc. you will be fine under 16GB.
Those tree do take a long time to solve though.

Any idea why the solver takes a negative EV line here when checking is much higher EV? Could it possibly have something to do with the fact that the turn cbet is node-locked? It was solved to 0.24% of pot accuracy with 6.6:1 SPR.

You probably want to post the configuration on pastebin or something rather than only providing a photo so that the situation can be reproduced.

It's hard to say without seeing the config and what exactly is locked. Did you solve after locking? Sometime when you lock on already good solution it has problems converging, in such case it's better to build the tree from scratch, lock and then solve.

Is it easy to upgrade from PIO Basic to Edge? Also we don't have to pay full amount of Edge right?
Because I went to use Preflop Solver there, but noticed you can only get it for Edge. cheers.

Yes. The upgrade is listed here:
http://piosolver.myshopify.com/produ...o-edge-upgrade

That is correct.

Please take into account that you need very powerful hardware to use the preflop solver. 64GB (or more) of RAM is recommended as well as modern fast CPU.

hello, so how do you think one should use the software to examine more of a general question regarding turn/river deviations- like the one in the above quote, or to learn how to play against someone that probes turn too little, but barrels rivers at too high of a frequency?

i may be exposing my lack of understanding regarding pio and poker theory, but i feel like sims with flop node locks can be helpful because in game it is much easier for you to develop an idea of villain's flop play than his turn/river play, and because a flop node lock would take into account all possible turn and river cards so it is much easier for you to learn and examine the generalities-i.e. how much more aggressive you can play on a high card turn if villian is too passive with check raise on monotone board etc.

on the other hand, it seems to me that the questions and answers expressed in turn or river node lock sims would be too run out specific and therefore not as practical for learning?

sorry for the tldr, i'm currently confused with how to use solvers for turn and river exploitative modelling/calcs and any advice in that regard would be appreciated.

thank you

I agree with it in general although I am not an active player anymore so take that into account.

On the other hand running turn solutions alone is much faster so you can try more of them/experiment with more things. Which brings me to:

I think it's not the most productive thing to try to lock all turns at this point to see how flop play changes. There will be more tools to develop exploitive strategies in the future - for now there isn't much you can do when it comes to that.

What you can do though is to analyze how to adjust on the turn (or river) against opponent who plays those differently. The way to do that is to node lock one turn and solve. To make it fast it's the best to make a new tree starting from that point on the turn (using ranges/remaining stacks/betting structure from the flop solution). There is a tool which does it for you, I talk about it here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PEmsGaGLvk (point 2, creating subtree configuration, see the video description).

You can "cut" part of the tree, make a new one, adjust some things, like:
-node lock
-add/remove bet size options
-adjust starting range ("what if he plays a bit tighther on the flop?")

and then solve. As turns are fast to solve you can do it several times and get a better feel for what's going on.

One important thing is to save the original flop solution first so you can go back to it later and "cut" another part of the tree or go back to browsing it.

I think that's the best way to work on turn/river play for now.

Hi, i recently just bought the piosolver basic and i have an issue. I am trying to run a 95 flop subset and after generating script. I went to try running the script but it doesn't seem to be running



Anyone knows what's the problem?

Hi, I'm trying to get PIO edge onto my latop (already have it on my desktop) but it's saying "access denied" and "cannot process request because the process (18536) has exited." Can anyone help me with this, thanks.

Basic version doesn't support scripts (it's the only feature missing comparing to pro version).

That's strange. Is it the updater that is crashing or the solver when you try to run it? If that's an updater then maybe you need to update your Net Framework, here:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/down....aspx?id=42642

If it's the solver then check what Windows version you have (preferably take a screenshot from control panel->system with CPU name, Windows version, RAM amount etc. and send it to support). You need 64bit Windows for it to run (I've seen 32-bit Windows on good machines so many times that I won't rule that out even though it's a complete waste of resources).

It is the solver when I try to run it, the updater works fine. I have i7-6500 CPU, 64bit windows and 16gb ram so not sure why it won't work I will try emailing support, thanks.

Hi Punter,

I bought the PIO basic version ages ago, and I'm pretty sure I upgraded to Pro at some stage. Change of computer recently and I've lost all my information though, what's the best way for me to contact to recover keys etc?

I think I've got your email. One more useful thing you can provide is a screenshot from your Pio folder (so I can see everything is there) along with the full path (so I can see if it didn't end up in Temp/Synch/Downloads etc.)

If you remember registered email that will be enough. If not then try providing some transactions details: name, date.. anything that could help finding the transaction.

Where do i purchase an upgrade for my basic version to pro?

http://piosolver.myshopify.com/produ...ic-pro-upgrade

Additional things you get with pro version (other than scripts):

-ability to use Pio on one more computer (so 2 total)
-support for 12 threads (16 starting from the next release)

Is there any way to know how accurate flops (taken by themselves) are in preflop solutions? And when you run an aggregation report on a preflop tree for a turn spot, for example, are the turns solved to the recalc accuracy before being aggregated, or are they used just as they are, with whatever accuracy they reached during the preflop calc?

Yes but it's not directly supported in the Viewer. Here is what you need to do:

1)navigate to the beginning of the subtree you want to know exploitability of (so in your case go to preflop exit and select one of the flops)

2)copy NodeID of that node, you can do it by right clicking in the right upper corner, it will look like this:
r:0:c:c:3s8dTc

3)hit ctrl+b to bring arbitrary solver command window
4)type:
explo_partial r:0:c:c:3s8dTc

(substitue with your NodeID)
and hit enter

5)the result is going to be in chips so if you want it in % of the pot you need to divide by the pot at this point and multiply by 100.

This works for any node in the tree, not only beginning of the street. Try it

The solution achieved during solving is used. This should be more than enough for aggregation (as EVs/average strategies/EQs etc. converge quite fast). If you try running a report on a small save it will have to recalculate (as the solution is not there) but I don't recommend it as it's going to take a very long time.

I feel unsure about it being enough for aggregation. I just tried it on a 25bb solution in a minraised pot, and the exploitability was 2.35% of pot. That seems way above the 0.5% that you generally seem to recommend.

Are you sure you are dividing by a pot at that point (and not the starting one?). I am trying some solutions from PioCloud packs and flops are in <0.35% range. There is a difference between aggregating things to get an average and being precise with details on particular combos. You don't need as much accuracy for the former as you need for the latter.

Yeah. I just tried another for 12bb MRP and this time it was 0.9% of pot. Do you think it's due to accuracy of the whole preflop solution? PioCloud's are around 1.5bb/100, correct? I wrote about this before here, asking what accuracy is good enough and you said 2-3bb and that most of the change after that will be postflop accuracy and preflop strategy won't change much (which I found to be true, so I just stopped around 2.5bb/100 or so for 25bb).