hello, im a long time user of piosolver, i always let pio run until exploitable for 0.50% of the pot, some days ago i saw a well know high stakes player in the spanish community recommends just running it until 2% and he says much lower than that its most likely a waste of time...
punter can you confirm this please?
thank you

also is there a hotkey to fast change from turn card to a different turn card? or river?

Thanks, just posted it over there as well

File association is a Windows feature unrelated to Pio. Please google "how to associate csv files with Excel" (or another program if you prefer that.

It's a judgement call.
A lot of very good players share the view that it doesn't make sense to go below say 1% (or even worse accuracy) as the strategy is decent enough by then and you only need good outline as microadjustments are done based on reads anyway.
Some people think you need way better accuracy than that because they like the look of smooth solutions.

We are conservative with our recommendations: 0.35% is good for about anything. I would say 0.5% is likely ok as well. Above 1% you may still get quite big mistakes on the river so I would be careful with that unless you really know what you are doing and interpret the results correctly.

Try:
ctrl+arrows to change river card
ctrl+shift+arrows to change the turn card

up/down arrows change the rank of the card.
right/left arrows change the suit of the card.

This feature is there in Pio since I think 2015!

Functionality Request:

So I love the feature in the latest update of Pio where the Range Explorer, when set to show "Strategy", gives a quick visual breakdown of the strategies for each hand class via a colored bar with proportions of each action's/bet size's color (similar to how Simple Postflop does). I had been wanting this feature to appear in Pio for some time.

My one frustration with it is that when I navigate the game tree in the main window of Pio Viewer, the Range Explorer window reverts to showing equity of the range that was selected. I would like a feature where it now shows the range of the player to act and remains showing "Strategy," in much the same way as the main Pio Viewer window will update the matrix with the strategy of the player to act. Is this an option that can be added?

Why if I insert J55 in the Text filter (and in general any paired texture), all those textures come out and not just J55?



also the loading of the various textures after filter I see it much slower than in Pio v1 ... 1-2 seconds or so vs immediate.

Yeah, that's a good idea. Range Explorer should be able to "follow" the tree browsing.
For now Range Explorer follows just one player and doesn't switch.

It looks like a bug, thanks for reporting.

We will check why it happens.

Does anybody have a color code scheme for PIO in RGB format?

In other words, the three (three-digit) numbers, which depict a particular color, for each action.

I understand piosolver has 2 activations. If I want to swap an activation from one computer to another is that possible?

Hi Pio,
I'm in the middle of a script(10 out of 195 flops), and am getting this error message below.
ERROR: dump_tree saving couldn't be completed

The solver then stops itself and will not continue on to the next flop without manually restarting the solver.

I've been using this exact flop subset for scripts before and had no issues with it so I'm not sure what happened in the middle of this job.

Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you

Hi All,

Is there any way for a user to access the data in cfr files programmatically? Yes I know there is since PioViewer does it, but is there any way I might be able to do the same using python or R? There is so much I want to do with this data that PioViewer doesn't do and I can't figure out how these files are formatted.

Hi Punter,

I wanted to get your thoughts on the bunching effect and the limitations it places on high resolution solves.

Traditional wisdom says this effect is small, but more recent analysis shows that this effect can actually be quite significant in a lot of spots. Especially in the modern context of high-accuracy solves with many sizes.

Beat me to it, I was gonna ask Punter the same thing!

In GTOTrainer, is there a way to re-play a board from hand history?

Is there a way to 'compare frequencies' akin to the 'compare actions', in order to highlight which bet sizes are used more/less?

Hi,

Since yesterday, I have been trying to export a bunch of aggregated reports on multiple files :
-human readable data,
-all the combos,
-either 1755 cfr files for flop or turn spots (turn saves) or 15-30 cfr files for river spots (river saves)
... and it's pretty slow (around 1 hour per report). I am using the 1st version of Pio.

I am surprised because neither the RAM (32 GB), nor the CPU (i9-9900) seem to be fully used (maybe RAM is sometimes used 100% when I try to export several reports simultaneously).

How can I speed it up on my PC ? is there a setting somewhere I can change ? is it a question of RAM or CPU ?
A friend of mine has a PC with 64 GB RAM (and same CPU as mine) : would it be faster?
I can also ask another friend with a more powerful CPU, but 32 GB RAM like mine : should I rather try this way to get these reports exported faster ?

Since you launched Pio v2, I am tempted to give it a try : would these aggregated reports on multiple files be faster with this second version of Pio ?

Thanks

What % do i run icm postflop sims to? 0.5-1 chip utility seem accurate enough?

I've asked this question before, you need to use the UPI syntax (https://piofiles.com/docs/upi_documentation/) to interact with the solver text interface. From there you can export any info about the tree you want, calculate EV/EQ at a node etc.

I'm currently trying to figure out how to export my solve library to a database. Sounds like you may be doing similar; if you're interested in chatting or collaborating shoot me a message

punter,

I'm playing around with the UPI solver text commands, and have noticed I get
ERROR: Command print_all_strats not recognized

Is this command antiquated, or only in pio 2.0? Or some other type of error that is not being indicated?
I'm still on pio 1.10.20

Thanks!

Hi is there a way to Node lock for a counter exploit?
For example. I initially node lock a strategy, i.e Villain over folds vs 2CB, then I want to take the new exploitable 2CB strategy and see how villain could counter exploit that.

I've tried using PIO to 'unlock' the initial node lock and lock my new exploitable 2CB strategy, but this doesn't seem to allow the initial combos I used to 'stop over folding' they still stay fixed for some reason.

Any ideas on things I could do to look at a counter exploit strategy?

Thanks

Hello,

I am still stuck with the time reports on multiple files take on my PC. I'd like to test this UPI thing. How does it work in Pio V1 ? Can I find more information somewhere ?

The link in the post you quoted is the syntax for piosolver's command console, meaning you can write scripts that run from piosolver using UPI. So other documentation you are looking for is just under the topic of piosolver scripting. A word of warning; as someone with some level of programming training, I have found implementing my own version of aggregate report exporting decently non-trivial (if you want to add functionality over pioViewer's report function), though it is 100% feasible.

I noticed your post above asking about CPU and RAM; I've found that while exporting aggregate reports, the bottleneck is frequently the disk read/write speed. There is a fixed file access time that piosolver requires to load a tree into memory, while the operations (exporting the relevant tree info to file) is a much shorter portion of the total runtime as long as the solver is not rebuilding subtrees on the nodes you are exporting strategies from (ie river nodes from small saves). You may find benefit from storing your solved trees in SSD rather than HDD if you are not already.

I'm not an expert on the cfr file format by any means, so perhaps punter will have a more accurate response for you. Looking forward to editing out misinformation from this post

Hi Punter,

I have imported pf ranges that are showing as 3 decimal places. Is there a way to have these showing as just 1 or 2 decimals places without having to do any manual work?

https://ibb.co/JtrQZW3

Thanks!

I have a question about the way Pio calculates “% of the pot”.
Menu: Configuration / Data presentation – Betsizes / both in chips and % of the pot
Let’s say:
Starting pot 100
OOP bets 100 (100%)
IP raises 2.5x so a raise to 250
and Pio shows in the tree: Root BET 100 (100%) RAISE 250 (50%)
How does Pio calculate those “50%”? Pot after the raise = (100 + 100 + 250) and 50% of 450 equals 225 (and not 250).

Noob question as I've just bought this...what is the "HandOrders" bit in the Range Selection screen for? My tree is empty (as is the HandOrders folder in the install). Ta!