It will use all the cores but not hyperthreading. It's about 15% performance difference (maybe 25%-30% total as edge compiles are optimized for modern CPUs as well).

Hyperthreading (having ability to run 2 hardware threads on one core) increases the performance by about 10-15% in Pio's case.

It should run faster as long as 20 cores are clocked at not much lower frequency.

You can browse the solutions including rivers (those are recalculated on the fly). You can't do things like node-locking as that would require recalculating EVs which is not possible without rivers. If you would like to use node-locking then it's the best idea to build a new tree, lock there and then solve.
You need RAM.
You may think about trimming the tree a bit though, 13GB is a really big tree in Pio.

Wow, this is much better than expected! It looks like Ryzen cores are faster now than Intel ones and you can get about twice as many for the same price.

Wow. This is really impressive.

I hope you are very happy with it

Thanks for sharing !

Looking to pay someone to make aggregate reports for me and convert them into pretty readable format...something like this: instead of the default format Pio spits them out in.

PM me.

I have about 40 individual scripts in a folder. I want to run them all back to back. Would it be best to combine them into 1 giant script file, or is there a better way?

is there a way for pio to produce an excel report but only on one specific turn or river (ie doesnt show all possible turns or rivers)?

Feel free to ask in #marketplace channel on our Discord as well.

See post #5214 here:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=5214

It's not possible at the moment. You can try filtering the resulting report yourself.

Can someone help me?

When I want to use the function

Runouts aggregated frequencies analysis over multiple files

I get this error

unknown location of current tree. To run multiple files aggregation report you should load files from a directory with several input files

Why?

It needs to run it over multiple files, so you need to open one of the solves in the folder with multiple files in it. For example, if I ran a spot with the 49 flop subset, there is a folder that contains the 49 flop files. If I open one of those, and then run the report, it will open each one of those to create the spreadsheet.

I have had PIO solver for several months now. Am competent with PCs but I have yet to download and run PIO successfully. Cant get past the "Installer and Update" page. Any suggestions as to how i can get it up and running. So extremely frustrating since I know how to use the product but can't access it!

Are you using the newest installer from here:
https://piofiles.com/download/Updater/PioUpdater.exe

It's pretty straightforward: choose your version, installation path (or leave the default) and insert the key when prompted. If you encounter any problems please send us a screenshot containing the error message to support@piosolver.com

I followed that path and it's telling me to "install .NET framework 4.7.2 or later". When I install it still the same problem.

I sent an e mail to support just waiting to hear back.

Thanks

How can one run a script say Blind vs. Blind, then stop it and start it again?
Thanks.

I already made a 74 flop subset + spreadsheet which I wanted to add more boards to. Is there anyway to do this or do I need to just make a new one with the bigger subset provided on the site?
Thanks.

Open one of the flops that you already solved, generate script, add the new flops you want and point it to the same folder where your previous one was, and solve them with the script. You'll have to generate a new spreadsheet though.

Hello. I ran a script for a 184 flop subset and when I tried to make a spreadsheet and weight it, it says weight is missing on one board texture.
How can I fix this? And secondly, what happens if I make a spreadsheet without weighting? Thank you kindly.

Are you sure you don't have another save in that folder coming from different source? If you run a script and have only the saves from it + the script itself in the folder it should be able to read all the weights. It's unlikely situation for it to be able to read all the weights with the exception of one flop unless that flop comes from different source than the script (meaning the weight isn't there).

Aggregate results (for all flops) will not be reliable as a subset without weighting isn't a very good representation of the whole game.

I'm a total noob with solvers and I downloaded the free version just to see how pio works and am thinking of purchasing PioSOLVER pro vs PioSOLVER edge what is the difference between the two as I read your website but if you can explain bit more in laymans? also is the price a one off price for each of them?

And just a few questions re the solver.

Using your basic Qs Jh 2h flop 2x and 3bet before the flop

I'm just a bit confused with the meaning of these numbers see screenshot below, I assume its saying K3o is a bet 0.842? I assume when the number is 1 it is 100% bet, and when its 0.001 its like a no bet? think I'm conduced because K3o is a bet or not sure if I am misundersting it.





Also in a youtube video each hand like in the screenshot below shows raise call fold percentages, but in the above screenshot it only displays one number, is this because its a free version?

Just to add in this screenshot below its saying T9 hearts 0.547 is the best hand of the T9 hands to bet, and that T9 of diamonds and T9 of clubs both 0.486 should be bet more then T9 of spades 0.407? I would have thought a backdoor spade flush draw was a better bet than the other two, not saying it is, just trying to see if i am misunderstanding these pio numbers?

Situations

Starting Pot : 180
Effective stack: 910

Flop IP
Bet sizes: 52%
Raise sizes: 45%

To add all-in to the tree we have several options:

1.Check box "Add allin"
- this will keep all the other options: Raise x%, call and fold

2.Set all-in treshold to .... % of the initial effective stack.
- When this minimum amount will be reached by betting or calling, it will automatically change to an all-in.

3."Add allin" only if less than ... % of pot?

How does option 3 works and can you give an example?

Gr Johan

But then I want to make an aggregated report that's also bigger. I want it to be representative of whole game tree. If I want to add a single flop to my 74 subset, I'm guessing this will mess up the weighting? Thanks.

The main differences are:
-there is a preflop solver in the edge version (it requires big hardware to run)
-you can move edge activations from computer to computer without any limits, even daily while basic/pro licenses are in principle per computer although moving them is allowed within reasonable limits for purposes like new computers, long travelling or some experimentation

It's a good idea to go through the quick start video where I show what various results shows. On your screenshot you are looking at range for a bet of 96. Range is how often hands get there. For example if you have AA:1 to start with and you bet with it 50% of the time then range for a bet is AA:0.5 if you then got called and bet again on the turn with 50% frequency the range for that bet is going to be AA:0.25

The second screenshot shows strategy: what a hand does there. This always sums up to 100% for all possible actions and it may exist even for hands which are no longer in range (answering the question: what you should do if you somehow find yourself with this hand at this point even if you shouldn't).

Pio shows both ranges and strategies (along with EVs and equities) for all hands but you can only see one at the same time as it would be difficult to cram all the information on one screen. Rectangles being scaled by current range (that is squares proportional checkbox) is an attempt to show both range and strategy in one view.

There is "add all-in" checkbox. To avoid adding huge overbets which don't have any value but make things complicated for the solver you may only want them if they are for example not bigger than 300% of the pot (3x pot). For example if the stacks are 1000 and the starting pot 100 all-in won't be added even if you check the checkbox on the flop.

Yes, it will render averages useless unless you are really lucky or really good at improving subsets (both are very unlikely as humans proved to be terrible at constructing good subsets of flops).

In the Range Explorer, can you please explain "Select hand if its selected in any or all subgroups"? Thank you

I didn't understand anything you said in the your reply to me, I'm not a online player so I'm not understanding the online poker lingo you are using, can you just answer these questions below just in simple yes no basics so i dont confuse us both even more.

Where is this video?


Does this suit edge?

Intel (R) Core (TM) i7-4790 CPU @ 3.60GHz
16.0 GB
64 bit x64 based processor




Is showing as K3o is a bet 0.842 yes no?? this is from my original post see post #5367 ITT






can you please answer this one below too as did't understand your reply?

Also just to add, do monker rageconverter and pio solve the same way?, what I mean is what ever pio says to do for a hand, will monkerand rageconverter give the same answers for both NLHE and PLO? btw I'm not interested on purchasing monker or rangeconverter, so that's not why i am asking, but was just curious if they all gave the same answers.

You can choose between "any" (OR) or all (AND). If "any" is selected and you check top_pair and flush draw then all hands which are either a top_pair or a flush draw are going to be shown in 13x13 grid (that means they are "selected"). If "all" is chosen then only hands which are both top_pair and a flush draw will be selected.

I will answer your questions although I also want to warn you that if you don't get familiar with the concept of "range" it's very unlikely you will enjoy using our software as all poker calculations and results heavily depend on it.

Linked on our front page, here:
https://www.piosolver.com/

Direct link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqGQoQKbCB8

It doesn't. You need at least 64GB of RAM.
No, it shows the range for betting contains K3o with weight of 0.842. Range and strategy are different concepts. Understanding them is necessary to make use of the software.
It doesn't show T9 of hearts is the best hand to bet. It shows the betting range has Th9h with weight (probability) of 0.547.

In general it's not easy to make judgement call about what hands are bets or calls on the flop in Holdem. Solvers show that most hands are mixed between the two and it's very hard for a human to predict which hands should bet more often and which should check more often. Decisions are usually more clear in response to the bet (where many hands are 100% folds or calls) or on the turn and river.

As to range and strategy: range says how frequent a given hand is at certain point. For example this:
AA:1
KK:0.5

Means that you have AA twice as often as KK. If you now bet with both of those hands on the flop with 50% frequency your range after the bet is:
AA:0.5
KK:0.25

If you show betting range before making that bet it will be that (AA:0.5 KK:0.25) while if you show strategy it's going to be:
AA:50% bet, 50% check
KK:50% bet, 50% check

It's important to make distinction between the concepts. It's possible for example that a certain hand bets 100% of the time while another one bets 10% of the time but you have the second one more often in range for a bet because it was more frequent to begin with.

Monker uses a different algorithm and abstractions. This makes it less precise but it's able to solve bigger games. It's the first time I see rangeconverter solving anything, I will check it out.
We really don't have resources to test other solvers. We have tested ours against well established ones (Cepheus, Jesolver) and we have used independent implementations to verify the solutions (they are much easier to verify than to derive). In general I would expect the results to be similar although if a solver uses abstractions the results might be off a bit.