Thanks for the answer but when I click exit, nothing happens. (The box was checked) What now?

What resources are available for learning more about preflop sims. I've been using pio for over a year and am considering upgrading to edge. Really interested in looking at exploitative preflop ranges based on opponent tendencies. I asked in the discord but didn't get an answer that helped me.

Wanting to see how pio adjusts vs poorly constructed ranges. Eg: value only 3b and 4b ranges, too wide ranges etc.

If we built a tree solution on pio solver e.g. 15bb IP Player raise 2bb or Fold
OPP Player if IP Player min raise call or fold etc if we ran a 1755 sub set solution could we edit the opp players strategy on all of the 1755 flops in the subset to never donk bet and check raise All in with only the nuts if the IP player c bets and fold if IP Player c bets with everything else. e.g. on the flop 2d 2s 2c the opp player will check raise allin if they have Ax2h etc (only 2s in there range) and fold the rest of there range.
Would piosolver recalculate the preflop min raise range to ATC?
Is piosolver capable of doing this?
i.e. exploitative preflop ranges based on an opponents Post Flop tendencies.

You can try navigating to the folder manually (window key + e and then click to the folder you have chosen for installation). The updater open the installation folder but maybe if you have a lot of other folders opened at the same time it just disappears in the list of opened ones.
Do you run any 3rd party antivirus? Those are known to cause other programs to malfunction/change functionality as they overwrite some system calls.

There is a quick start video for the preflop solver:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX8n2E3OGok

You can also browse the development blog:
https://www.piosolver.com/blogs/news

To see videos with description of some new features in recent versions.
We don't have materials about specifics like analyzing exploitive play with the preflop solver. The reasons are that this is a job of poker coaches/training sites and that we are not qualified to make strategy related content as we are not active players anymore.

Node locking and analyzing exploitive strategies with the preflop solver is very time consuming because solving those trees often take several hours or more (in case of really huge trees). This means you need a lot of resources to make comparisons/experiment with locking and removing options.

It is doable (via node-locking) but again, it will take a long time to run those trees. Maybe it's a good idea to look for people who are already doing this work and try to join efforts.

Well, unless you have a few terabytes of RAM or a really simplistic tree you won't be able to run it on all flops because those trees are humongous.

For that it's the best to remove that line when building the tree in the first place. This way the tree will take less memory and will solve faster.

Yes, you could node-lock that although that will be a lot of clicking to do that.
We plan to add some functionality to make such massive general node-locking easier but it's not available yet.

Capable in theory but it's not practical currently and honestly wasn't tested (because of impracticality). There are plans to make such analysis feasible but if you want to do it now the best advice is to wait and see.

Do you mean the 'C:\PioSOLVER' map, punter? Because I don't have a clue where to look. And I actually don't know how to open that map. Not the best with computers.
I think I have the windows 10 antivirus program, so no other antivirus program.

Hi i was wondering if i'm able to get the .cfr files to load into pioviewer from all the text files or if there was a way to convert the text files into viewable .cfr files.

Yes, that folder.
You can open Windows Explorer by pressing Windows key (left side of the keyboard with a flag on it) and E key at the same time. Then you can click on C drive and on C:\PioSOLVER. The files are there and you can start PioViewer from there.

That's ok, please never disable built-in Windows Defender.

.cfr files contain information about tree structure, parts of the solution (only those which can't be recalculated on the fly). This is an efficient non human readable format. There is no way to convert .txt files to .cfr files but if you mean ranges you can load them in Pio as well by copy pasting to range selector or copying them to Ranges folder (they will be visible in range selector then).

If I go to Local disk (C I don't see any 'C:\PioSOLVER'
Only some maps...

I am really not sure what you mean by "maps".
Maybe try running the installer gain, it asks you for a destination folder, like this:

https://gyazo.com/46886f9f07fac12d3f154e4422c08a84

Here you need to click "check fro updater and update" and then "exit" once it's done.
The installation folder is going to be C:\PioSOLVER and all the files are going to be there.

ok great, thanks punter!

Hi,

I've a problem when installing PIO pro. When I get PIOupdater, activate the license, click on "install/update". I then place the installation in a file, but I can't click on "forward" after doing all of that.

Thxs

You need to click "Check for updates and update" button here:
https://gyazo.com/705ec5dcc36d2beaeb34826587bb44a4

We will change it to "install" to make it clearer

I've done it plenty of times, when it finishes loading, I still can't click on "forward"

Do I need to place it in a specific file ?

Thanks.

No, just click exit when you see "Update complete", like here:
https://gyazo.com/62b80f7f7b7d2ac2cbf0f36d1bc0d494

I have piosolver pro on a i5-4690K CPU @ 3.50GHz, 16 gb ram, 4 cores. I was running scripts with not too wide of ranges and was wondering why I was unable to hit 0.35% exploitability but instead would time out after an hour of running. I researched and thought it would be a good idea to benchmark and I got 58, which I know is ridiculously high.

I'd like to note that when I do run the script I see in task manager that Pio is only taking up about 20% of my resources. Is there a way to ramp this up to improve the solve speed? Are there any other details I could provide with my PC that could help us find the problem?

While Pio often has problems with trees with narrow starting ranges it's in fact looks like benchmark of 58 is a problem here. If you encounter a tree that doesn't converge well please send the config to us (support@piosolver.com) there are mitigations within existing engine for many of them and they are useful as benchmarks for the future.

Usual reasons for it not using more are:

1)Energy saving settings (you need to turn them off, "balanced" is not good)
2)Some external antivirus which eats the resources
3)Cooling system not working correctly (when CPU overheats it throttles the performance to save itself)

Try checking those and see if that helps.

Thanks for the reply. My energy settings are set to high, antivirus is off/not running when I run solves, and the cooling system is effective. Are there any other things you think I can try to improve the performance?

This CPU should get around 10 seconds benchmark so something is definitely off.
Maybe there are some Windows settings which limit it to one thread? It's really hard to guess but it's something specific to your setup.
Have you checked in Task Manager if any other program is using CPU? Unfortunately there might be 101 things causing it. Outside of the reasons mentioned above we haven't encountered performance problems like that.

You can try restarting the computer, having thermometer up all the time to see if CPU is not overheating and making sure all cores are in use (you cna check that in Task Manager).

Hi,

I would like to know what to put in the "accuracy settings" when running a sims.
- What does mean accuracy in x% of the pot ?

- Is it depending of the number of sizing you implement ?

- What's a standart accuracy % of the pot for 2 bet size in each street ?

- Is the line "Exploitable for x% of the pot per hand" is an indication for when to stoppe the sims ?

Thanks for all the answers

We measure accuracy of the solution as exploitability. If a solution is exploitable for 1 chip per hand it means a perfect adversary (someone who knows exact strategy of their opponent and adjust perfectly to play maximum exploit vs that) wins 1 chip per hand against an opponent who plays according to the solution.

If the pot is for example 60 chips (common in 5/10 blinds settings) and you require accuracy of 0.3% of the pot then it means the solver is going to work until exploitability falls below 60 * 0.003 = 0.18 chips per hand.

No, althoug the more complicated and bigger the tree the longer it takes to solve to good accuracy.

0.5% for good overview, 0.35% for a very nice practical solution, 0.25% for almost perfect one.
Notice that if you solve to for example 0.35% when having a starting pot of 60 at 5/10 blinds you are solving to 0.21 chips per hand. In comparison rake is often 1.5 chips per hand (3$ total, 1.5$ average per player).

Yes, you can use it as indication of how good the solution is.

Sorry if this is a commonly asked question, but I am trying to determine which version of Pio is best for me. I have a pretty powerful computer (16 cores, 32gigs RAM, motherboard can support up to 128 gigs) and want to eventually solve or view solutions for preflop spots. I'm more immediately interested in studying postflop spots as they won't require any additional memory.

I'm mostly trying to decide between the Pro and Edge versions. If I am not interested in looking at preflop spots right now but will want to in the future, is it a good idea to start with the pro version and go for an upgrade later down the road? If I am definitely set on working with preflop spots in the future, is there any reason not to just go ahead and invest in Pio Edge from the start?

Yes, it's definitely a good idea to start with the pro version. You can load preflop spots with it as well (just not solve them). For example the ones we made available for free lately:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=3635

How are the accuracy settings conveyed in the `set_accuracy` parameter in scripts? If I do `set_accuracy 0.05` is that 5% of the pot or 0.05% of the pot or 0.05 chips or how's that work?

For example this:
https://gyazo.com/3dd8a232bf64fd26a3c90bfcef145dce

means 0.25% of the pot. It will be converted to chips for the script purposes (the solver internally only uses accuracy in chips). Please note that we use a dot "." as decimal separator. Please don't use a comma as we use a comma to separate numbers.

Hi,

I would like to compare the EV of multiple bet size.

- How can you see the general EV of one bet size on the flop turn and river ?

- Ex : if I use 2 bet size On the turn, and I would like to see if removing or adding one bet size change our EV, how do I proceed ?

Thanks