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09-09-2022 , 06:03 AM
Does piosolver support dual CPU server setup?
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09-10-2022 , 12:37 AM
Does anyone know if there is a way to change the buttons from chip amounts to pot percentages? These are the buttons where you selection actions on each street.
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09-13-2022 , 11:35 AM
Sorry if this info is already posted somewhere, but how can I update the email that is attached to my license?
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09-18-2022 , 11:20 AM
So, pretty new to Pio and solvers in general. Working my way through this thread, but haven't seen the answer yet. I apologize if its out there and I haven't seen it.

When we see "solver generated preflop ranges," how exactly are the creators of said ranges going about this?



As in, what's the process of using Pio or other solvers to construct preflop ranges for positions? I know I can just find free or buy ranges, but I'd like to learn how to use the software as much as possible.

I have Pio Edge and a dedicated server with 256g ram. So can do most things within reason.

Thanks
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09-20-2022 , 09:57 AM
Trying to open preflop charts editor, coming up with error "Plugin Tools: Open Preflop Charts Editor failed. Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation."

Any idea how to fix?

TIA.
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09-22-2022 , 05:52 AM
I have never used this before, and want to play around with it. If there's a specific spot i want to run, i.e i have xx on xxx, what is the correct play/or variations of an ok play, how do I do this, I can't seem to figure out where I input an exact spot to run? Sorry if I'm being dumb never used it before.
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09-22-2022 , 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by dappadan777
I have never used this before, and want to play around with it. If there's a specific spot i want to run, i.e i have xx on xxx, what is the correct play/or variations of an ok play, how do I do this, I can't seem to figure out where I input an exact spot to run? Sorry if I'm being dumb never used it before.
There’s no “spot” as far as position and ranges.

You have and in position and out of position player.

You input the ranges you think the players will have (for example, you can use whatever your favorite position range chart says for the positions you want to compare).

For preflop, you’ll make your own tree visually in the preflop tree builder.

For postflop, you will input what size bets (based on pot size) and what raise sizes you want for 2 and 3 bets. And it will construct a tree for you.


That’s just a very quick and basic idea. There’s a lot of videos online.

But if you were wanting something like “I want to click on the UTG and BTN positions and see what it says about X flop” then you’ll want to either buy completed solves to view in PIO, or use a utility like gto wizard.
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09-23-2022 , 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by DonkBucks
There’s no “spot” as far as position and ranges.

You have and in position and out of position player.

You input the ranges you think the players will have (for example, you can use whatever your favorite position range chart says for the positions you want to compare).

For preflop, you’ll make your own tree visually in the preflop tree builder.

For postflop, you will input what size bets (based on pot size) and what raise sizes you want for 2 and 3 bets. And it will construct a tree for you.


That’s just a very quick and basic idea. There’s a lot of videos online.

But if you were wanting something like “I want to click on the UTG and BTN positions and see what it says about X flop” then you’ll want to either buy completed solves to view in PIO, or use a utility like gto wizard.
I see thanks perhaps Pio isnt what I need, I have a specific hand history I want to input, not ranges or variations of it, it's a specific spot. No really sure what software to use for this type of thing, either manually inputting the HH or importing it. I believe Simple Poker has a programme that allows this, I just wnat to run various hands to check how I played it vs GTO/optimal and study the exact spots.
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09-23-2022 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by dappadan777
I see thanks perhaps Pio isnt what I need, I have a specific hand history I want to input, not ranges or variations of it, it's a specific spot. No really sure what software to use for this type of thing, either manually inputting the HH or importing it. I believe Simple Poker has a programme that allows this, I just wnat to run various hands to check how I played it vs GTO/optimal and study the exact spots.
GTO Wizard has an upload option.
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09-23-2022 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by dappadan777
I see thanks perhaps Pio isnt what I need, I have a specific hand history I want to input, not ranges or variations of it, it's a specific spot. No really sure what software to use for this type of thing, either manually inputting the HH or importing it. I believe Simple Poker has a programme that allows this, I just wnat to run various hands to check how I played it vs GTO/optimal and study the exact spots.
Also, you're going to want to definitely include ranges and such when you study hands.

As your and the V's range have a large effect on the strategy employed. Many times you'll find out that the strategy against a range vs a specific hand will be different. Actually most times.

In the situation with PIO, you would input what range you believe the V has, and what range you believe V believe's you have. Then give the solver several options of bet sizing and such. And the flop (or flops) you'd like to look at.

Then you can see what direction in the game tree the solver prefers and how close it was to your actions.


And you can also change ranges around. Get a feel for how the strategy would change if you realize you have the V's range wrong after playing more hands with them. So you can properly adjust as the game goes along and you gather more info.
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09-29-2022 , 06:51 PM
I am trying to run a script but PIO is telling me I don't have enough RAM even though my PC shows I have enough RAM. Anyone know what the problem is?
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09-29-2022 , 06:52 PM
I am trying to run a script but PIO is telling me I don't have enough RAM even though my PC shows I have enough RAM. Anyone know what the problem is?


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10-01-2022 , 02:39 PM
"Does piosolver support dual CPU server setup?"

Hi there, hope you are doing well.

Yes, it does but bare in mind that you'll lose some performance, I myself I rented a dual 7502 epyc and benched at 0.35 with pio edge. Rented in hostkey.com.

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10-01-2022 , 02:41 PM
"Does anyone know if there is a way to change the buttons from chip amounts to pot percentages? These are the buttons where you selection actions on each street."

Hi there, hope you are doing well.
It's quite simple, on the top menu: Tools>Config>Data presentation - Betsizes

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10-01-2022 , 02:42 PM
"Trying to open preflop charts editor, coming up with error "Plugin Tools: Open Preflop Charts Editor failed. Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation."

Any idea how to fix?

TIA."


Hey, try to move the pio installation folder to another path rather than c:/program files.

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10-01-2022 , 02:43 PM
"I am trying to run a script but PIO is telling me I don't have enough RAM even though my PC shows I have enough RAM. Anyone know what the problem is?"

Hi there, hope you are doing well.
It seems although you have 64gb ram half of it is in use, try to clear some of the usage and things might go well.

Last edited by GronKiller; 10-01-2022 at 02:51 PM. Reason: I forgot to quote the post I answered.
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10-01-2022 , 02:47 PM
"I'm extremely interested in this software. I almost bought it 4 years ago but was told by friends who crush 1/3 & 2/5 [10BB+pr hr live cash] that they don't use solvers to study. Then last week I ran into a guy who loves poker, has played in tough 5/10, 25/50 games, poker is his life & he swears by them. I confirmed with a poker dealer I know that the guy is a winning poker player for 5+ years now.
Why I don't know that pio would be worth the money to me, is that I play primarily 1/3NL at MGM National Harbor where the games can get very loose. Another problem is that in no games are you going to find people opening for 3x BB in EP unless it's a tight game that you want to get off of asap. In the good 1/3 games people open for $18+, have $400+ stacks and you shouldn't play in the games unless you came with $1200 & are ready to swing.
So, is piosolver really going to worth the money for me?"

Hi there, hope you are doing well.
The inputs you give the software will dictate the pace you'll improve and the amout of money you can extract from it. The hardest part in my opinion is learn how to organize and study the data. Search for nodelock topic and invest in a coach that can help you to study efficiently.

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10-01-2022 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkBucks
So, pretty new to Pio and solvers in general. Working my way through this thread, but haven't seen the answer yet. I apologize if its out there and I haven't seen it.

When we see "solver generated preflop ranges," how exactly are the creators of said ranges going about this?



As in, what's the process of using Pio or other solvers to construct preflop ranges for positions? I know I can just find free or buy ranges, but I'd like to learn how to use the software as much as possible.

I have Pio Edge and a dedicated server with 256g ram. So can do most things within reason.

Thanks
Hi there, hope you are doing well.
PIO take all the hands you allowed preflop, play all the hands in all the flop subsets you choose and then decided which ones are profitable to play or not based on the avg. EV of those hands. Another important thing to note is that PIO doesn't use any kind of simplification while solving which isn't the case for the other softwares like SPF.
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10-02-2022 , 02:34 PM
If Im trying to optimize perfomance for PioSolver (w/o going TR or rent a server)
should I go with the 7950x or the 13900k?

How well does Pio support the hybrid architecture of Intel with perfomance and efficiency cores?

Is there any benefit of using ddr5 over ddr4?

would a 5950x with 64gb ddr4 be enough for most postflop sims?
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10-03-2022 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by XTPHR
If Im trying to optimize perfomance for PioSolver (w/o going TR or rent a server)
should I go with the 7950x or the 13900k?

How well does Pio support the hybrid architecture of Intel with perfomance and efficiency cores?

Is there any benefit of using ddr5 over ddr4?

would a 5950x with 64gb ddr4 be enough for most postflop sims?
Hi there,
Man in my opinion with prices dropping a 5950x/3950x is a nobrainer, I've both and they bench at 0.81 and 0.87 respesctively so if you can set up a 5950x for 1.2k or so would be the best value by far. I bought both of my pc when they were release and I'm telling you from experience that they always overhype the new chips and few months later you see the same PC you paid 2-3k now being worth 1.5k or so.
With 64gb ram you will be able to run 100bb HU preflop ranges with 1 size post flop all streets and around 40-50 flop subsets which is good enough, each sim will take around 6-7h probably.
This a link for a build that I recommend for my students which is a 5950x with 128gb ram for 1.5k usd, https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rafana...d/#view=RFW6Q7
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10-06-2022 , 07:03 PM
Thank you. I guess a 5950x makes sense.

Do you know how well pio works with the hybrid Intel CPUs? I would rather take them for other use cases out of solver work but not if they underperform because pio cant make use of the efficiency cores or w/e.
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10-11-2022 , 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by XTPHR
Thank you. I guess a 5950x makes sense.

Do you know how well pio works with the hybrid Intel CPUs? I would rather take them for other use cases out of solver work but not if they underperform because pio cant make use of the efficiency cores or w/e.
Words from the dev.
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10-12-2022 , 06:10 PM
Thanks, this was very helpful!
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10-13-2022 , 02:50 AM
Cheers
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10-13-2022 , 11:58 AM
Running PIO through Parallels on an M2 Mac. Performance seems kind of slow - takes about 30 minutes to work through a tree. Is running PIO on a Mac much slower than on a comparable i5 or i7 windows laptop? The CPU cores seem to benchmark favorably, so I'd expect the performance to be similar.

I gave Parallels 6 out of 8 cores. I read somewhere that PIO doesn't do well with high efficiency cores. Should I be limiting it to the 4 high perf cores?
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