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02-09-2010 , 11:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by morny
Just send me the name of the exe that launches the poker client, the name of the skin and network and the location of the file i.e C:/Poker/Victor Chandler and ill just send you 2 files, you then just copy and paste those files into your tilt demon folder and your good to go
Thank you - will follow up on this in a few days when I have a bit more time.
02-09-2010 , 12:38 PM
Yeah no problem, ill put an option in the settings window which will allow you to specify one other than localhost and ill release it with the postgreSQL fix
02-09-2010 , 01:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by morny
Yeah no problem, ill put an option in the settings window which will allow you to specify one other than localhost and ill release it with the postgreSQL fix
Great, thanks.
02-09-2010 , 07:02 PM
Suggestion:

Make the alarm time adjustable. The current time allowed me to play an additional ~300 hands.
02-10-2010 , 12:02 AM
Yeah, i set it large to start with to be conservative so people had enough time to sit out when playing a lot of tables, ill be adding options to change these to whatever suits
02-11-2010 , 10:51 AM
For the stop loss calculator thing to see how much you would have saved, is this a trailing stop loss or just from the time you start your session? Say I start out winning 200 dollars and my stop loss is set to when I lose 400. Does it go off when I reach -200 or is still at -400?

Thanks
02-16-2010 , 12:07 PM
I've got problem at PostgreSQL 8.4 + psqlODBC 08.03.0400 and Windows XP sp.3

Quote:
Service for Postgres 8.x Server is not running.
Pls startup Service for Postgres 8.x Server before proceeding with Setup.
You may refer to how2startService.pdf found in folder.
Setup will now stop. Click Begin to start Setup again.
I tried starting server, restarting server, starting by pgadmin and nothing happen at all.
When it will be repaired? Or maybe I cannot start service? I don't see the file how2start Service.pdf in folder either.

Thanks
02-16-2010 , 01:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by menexus
For the stop loss calculator thing to see how much you would have saved, is this a trailing stop loss or just from the time you start your session? Say I start out winning 200 dollars and my stop loss is set to when I lose 400. Does it go off when I reach -200 or is still at -400?

Thanks
Hi, its just from the time you start the session at the moment, i like the idea of having a trailing stop loss and someone also suggested this on the forum so its something ill add to the to do list.

Quote:
Originally Posted by FishWithWish
I've got problem at PostgreSQL 8.4 + psqlODBC 08.03.0400 and Windows XP sp.3



I tried starting server, restarting server, starting by pgadmin and nothing happen at all.
When it will be repaired? Or maybe I cannot start service? I don't see the file how2start Service.pdf in folder either.

Thanks
Were currently in the process of adding postgreSQL 8.4 support, in the meantime you can downgrade to 8.3 if that is convenient. Ill make an announcement as soon as its released.

Thanks
Morny
02-18-2010 , 03:46 PM
How about adding a bankroll function - like it wont let you sit at a higher limit table because you have set a minimum 30x buy-in for yourself, so you are prevented from moving up until you are rolled for it, and/or you are forced to move down after a downswing which takes you below 30x buy, so you have to move down to continue play (or deposit more)
02-18-2010 , 04:48 PM
Im having some real issues Morny,
It's probably me being stupid,But Fulltilt does not automatically get detected by the program? And neither does HEM get automatically recognised either,Although i managed to follow the folders to HEM.config etc

I cannot find the Fulltilt exe file,It doesnt appear anywhere.
I have tried C:/Programs Fulltilt etc etc etc but it will either say "I need to be a admin" Even though i have UAC disabled and this is my main/only user account on my home pc or it will store the details and once i click "save" and exit,Once i return all the details have vanished and the client page is totally blank again.

I use windows 7 and have the correct database downloaded as suggested but i am at my wits end.

This is with use with the latest trial version which i was hoping to purchase as soon as it is all up and running.
02-18-2010 , 10:14 PM
I hope it works as well as it sounds, it looks good on paper.
02-19-2010 , 09:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BuddyQ
How about adding a bankroll function - like it wont let you sit at a higher limit table because you have set a minimum 30x buy-in for yourself, so you are prevented from moving up until you are rolled for it, and/or you are forced to move down after a downswing which takes you below 30x buy, so you have to move down to continue play (or deposit more)
Well if you have it set at say $200 loss if your playing 100nl then if you move to 400nl to take a shot it would still only let you lose $200 so it does kind of stop you moving up limits however with keeping track of a bankroll we have no way of knowing if you deposit withdraw etc so it wouldnt be a fool proof system and would require honesty on your part. There are some bankroll management specific software out there but maybe it could be an idea to incorporate bankroll management into this if the demand was there.

Quote:
Originally Posted by JCS
Im having some real issues Morny,
It's probably me being stupid,But Fulltilt does not automatically get detected by the program? And neither does HEM get automatically recognised either,Although i managed to follow the folders to HEM.config etc

I cannot find the Fulltilt exe file,It doesnt appear anywhere.
I have tried C:/Programs Fulltilt etc etc etc but it will either say "I need to be a admin" Even though i have UAC disabled and this is my main/only user account on my home pc or it will store the details and once i click "save" and exit,Once i return all the details have vanished and the client page is totally blank again.

I use windows 7 and have the correct database downloaded as suggested but i am at my wits end.

This is with use with the latest trial version which i was hoping to purchase as soon as it is all up and running.
I could do a teamviewer session with you if you like to see what the problem is, just email me on info@tiltdemon.com or pm me here as its pretty strange you cant see the fulltilt.exe anywhere but it should be straightforward to figure out.
02-21-2010 , 11:41 PM
are you planning on adding a function in the tiltdemon calculator that finds the sessions where you lost X amount of BB's instead of X amount of $'s. I ask this bc $ amount seems like a much less important figure indicator than BB's does.
02-22-2010 , 08:55 AM
sorry I haven't followed the thread for a while...are tourneys now supported?
02-23-2010 , 09:41 AM
Also,

As I feel I have the discipline to stop when I hit my stop/loss, might you be releasing a lite version of this with just an alarm. I really cannot see me ever using the lock me out of my poker client function as I do not have a problem stopping. However I was astounded at my difference when I ran your stop/loss calculations and would be very interested in just having an alarm, especially if you can incorporate the trailing stop/loss function.

Since your program is going to analyze play. It would also be extremely useful to have graphs for your analysis. Instead of me having to run every different limit of a stop loss, a graph would seem to me to be able to point me in the right direction faster and be more accurate. Also a similar graph I think would be useful showing what one's winrate is compared to the number of tables they are playing. I have always been interested in knowing this but never really had the knowledge to analyze it in my database. I know what number of tables I feel comfortable playing, but I would be most interested to learn what is my point of diminishing return when adding tables.

Thanks again for your great stop/loss calculator.
02-23-2010 , 12:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RickOSU
are you planning on adding a function in the tiltdemon calculator that finds the sessions where you lost X amount of BB's instead of X amount of $'s. I ask this bc $ amount seems like a much less important figure indicator than BB's does.
Yes its already added, we recently added bb's, time played and hands played along with the ability to add positive $ amounts or positive bb's so you can set it to stop when you win $300 or 300bb as well as when you lose.

Quote:
Originally Posted by genher
sorry I haven't followed the thread for a while...are tourneys now supported?
Not yet, im releasing the 8.4 compatible version very soon, that will also have the option to edit the server since some people run their database from a server rather than localhost.

Then what i think is needed is to fix up all the security issues that allow it to be easily bypassed and ill also add a few small features that allow you to edit the lockout countdown time and things like that.

Then the 2 big things that will be coming are Tourney Support and The new Calculator, hope that gives you an idea of whats going to be happening in the next few weeks

Quote:
Originally Posted by menexus
Also,

As I feel I have the discipline to stop when I hit my stop/loss, might you be releasing a lite version of this with just an alarm. I really cannot see me ever using the lock me out of my poker client function as I do not have a problem stopping. However I was astounded at my difference when I ran your stop/loss calculations and would be very interested in just having an alarm, especially if you can incorporate the trailing stop/loss function.

Since your program is going to analyze play. It would also be extremely useful to have graphs for your analysis. Instead of me having to run every different limit of a stop loss, a graph would seem to me to be able to point me in the right direction faster and be more accurate. Also a similar graph I think would be useful showing what one's winrate is compared to the number of tables they are playing. I have always been interested in knowing this but never really had the knowledge to analyze it in my database. I know what number of tables I feel comfortable playing, but I would be most interested to learn what is my point of diminishing return when adding tables.

Thanks again for your great stop/loss calculator.
Hi, yeah ill probably add the alarm option next just before i do Tourney Support or the calculator as they'll be bigger jobs. Graphing and making it easy to see where your tipping point is a big part of the calculator and i quite like the Multi tabling ratio thing to see how that effects your win loss too so its certainly something ill add.

Some people also have had issues with it not starting due to firewall issues, i'm going to try and document the steps we need to do in order to avoid this in future for most of the well known firewalls. It will mostly be just adding some exe's to exceptions, not to hard but necessary.

Ill post the 8.4 version soon along with the firewall info
02-23-2010 , 12:52 PM
8.4-support and the alarm-only would make me very happy
02-23-2010 , 02:59 PM
Trailing stop needs to be added.
A stop should be measured as a loss relative to a session peak.
('session peak' at the start is your buy in amount, obviously)
Only when this functionality is added will this product make sense.
Once it is added, soon I hope, I would buy it for sure.
Without trailing stops, the product is very limited, and I would not pay for it.
I hope you add trailing stops soon.
Thanks.
02-23-2010 , 03:07 PM
Yes thats certainly something that can be and is on the todo list, shouldnt be overly difficult or maybe im misentepretting it.

Do you mean if i win $300 and my session stop loss is -$250 that if i get to +$50 after been up $300 my stop loss should kick in. Im also planning to allow you to have more than 1 stop loss, eg you could set it to -$300 or 1000 hands played whichever comes first.

If your the type of person that tilts when hes winning then you could set a stop loss of +$250 and also -$250 but i know thats not the exact same but using them in combination could be quite useful
02-23-2010 , 03:13 PM
Hey Morny, do you have an ETA on the new version?
02-23-2010 , 03:15 PM
Dont like giving ETAs in case something unexpected goes wrong but it will probably be 1-3 days
02-23-2010 , 04:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by morny
Do you mean if i win $300 and my session stop loss is -$250 that if i get to +$50 after been up $300 my stop loss should kick in.
Yes.

Simple Example: [Buy in: 100; Stop -15]
Hands:
0: win/loss 0: stack 100: +0
1: win/loss +25: stack 125: +25
2: win/loss +18: stack 143: +43
3: win/loss -10: stack 133: +33
4: win/loss -6: stack 127: +27 (-16 from session peak of 143) : STOP

Thanks
02-24-2010 , 03:12 AM
im trying to get this program to work.

i got everything set up and tested it twice with no results. the services are running according to task manager, its just not recognizing when i hit my stop loss. i have holdem manager running and the database appears to be functioning properly. i tried restarting my computer and this didn't help.

fwiw, i'm running windows 7.
02-24-2010 , 10:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BuddyQ
Yes.

Simple Example: [Buy in: 100; Stop -15]
Hands:
0: win/loss 0: stack 100: +0
1: win/loss +25: stack 125: +25
2: win/loss +18: stack 143: +43
3: win/loss -10: stack 133: +33
4: win/loss -6: stack 127: +27 (-16 from session peak of 143) : STOP

Thanks
Quote:
Originally Posted by RickOSU
im trying to get this program to work.

i got everything set up and tested it twice with no results. the services are running according to task manager, its just not recognizing when i hit my stop loss. i have holdem manager running and the database appears to be functioning properly. i tried restarting my computer and this didn't help.

fwiw, i'm running windows 7.
Hi,

Can you go to Start > Programs > Tilt Demon > $ Loss/Won app, when you start that does it say something about not initialised? If so its most likely a firewall issue, if you tell me your Firewall ill write how to do it in detail, then once we fix up the firewall well just need to uninstall and reinstall and it should be good to go, i can do a teamviewer session either if that would be easier.

Thanks
Morny
02-24-2010 , 11:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by morny
Hi,

Can you go to Start > Programs > Tilt Demon > $ Loss/Won app, when you start that does it say something about not initialised? If so its most likely a firewall issue, if you tell me your Firewall ill write how to do it in detail, then once we fix up the firewall well just need to uninstall and reinstall and it should be good to go, i can do a teamviewer session either if that would be easier.

Thanks
Morny
yeah my win/loss app works (but the numbers dont update while im playing)

send me a pm when u can do a teamviewer session

      
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