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10-28-2013 , 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by SretiCentV
This question could mean two different things so I will try to address both:
1. The definitions aren't all included by default because many are for specific games and/or wouldn't interest everyone.
2. You can access the digest from the software directly and add definitions from it with one click. Please see http://wiki.assaultware.com/Definition-Digest.ashx for full details
The digest on ur site and the digest in HM is a little different right? I was comparing the 2 and noticed some stats on ur site and some stats didnt show up in HM2.
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10-28-2013 , 08:37 AM
They're definitely not supposed to be different and this is the first time I've heard of it. If you tell me the name of one definition that's missing in the software I would be happy to look into it.
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10-28-2013 , 10:38 AM
^^My apologies. I think I didn't click on one of the filters so they didn't match up.
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11-09-2013 , 04:18 AM
can you give some details on how the notes are calculated?

I am looking at total runtime for each created custom note.
And for example "won on 3 barrell sb vs bb" takes about 1000 more runtime than "fold cbet to raise OOP on A high board".
(both definitions are custom created using "Action sequence")

I see lots of strange runtime differences for certain definitions that I cannot explain.
Create notes takes 100+ more time than it should just because of a few notes like that.

And don't give me the standard url to the speed improvement tips page because I am comparing those runtime numbers on the same computer and I am comparing notes that have similar number of occurances.
Only the runtime is way way different.

I think i even have the answer for it:
It just seems that the note calculator goes on to the other conditions and checks them even if the first ones are not met.
If it just checks if the hand is won and if the recipient is sb it eliminates most cases so there is no reason for such a simple and rare definition to take an insane amount of runtime.

Last edited by JonIrenicus; 11-09-2013 at 04:45 AM.
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11-09-2013 , 08:10 AM
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It just seems that the note calculator goes on to the other conditions and checks them even if the first ones are not met.
If it just checks if the hand is won and if the recipient is sb it eliminates most cases so there is no reason for such a simple and rare definition to take an insane amount of runtime.
I'm not seeing how it could check only that when it's BB. Surely it must check that everyone else folded etc. Depending on how the action sequence is structured it could be more complicated than you're making it out to be.

What I do when I want to figure something out like this is to rebuild it piece by piece and check how the runtime ends up at every step and then when it spikes see if there is something inefficient
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11-09-2013 , 12:15 PM
Yes, I am doing trial and error blindly that's why I was curious to know how it calculates the notes so that I would do it easier.

Here is another example:
For the same sb vs bb triple barrel I made 2 notes:
1. On the first one the SB position is specified in the Preflop General tab but not again in the action sequence since I would be repeating the condition uselessly, right?
2. On the second one the SB position is specified in the Preflop General as well but I also added it in the action sequence when the note recipient raises.
I also specified that the caller is the BB, though that also is redundant since everyone else folded.

Ran both of them at once, Note 2 is about 10+ times faster even though I added two conditions that were repetitive :-)

Last edited by JonIrenicus; 11-09-2013 at 12:22 PM.
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11-09-2013 , 12:53 PM
That's pretty standard in programming and I deal with it all the time. That's why I added the runtime column. Just the other day I discovered reading a file via a streamer is much slower than reading the whole thing in one shot once the file gets to a certain size (but for smaller files it is much faster). Also regular expressions in some cases are faster than string operations and other times much slower. Since NC allows you to program so many different things it makes sense it will be subject to the same nuances.

Leveraging the resources that tell you how fast things are going and a little trial and error will definitely get you the best results
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11-15-2013 , 01:49 PM
Trying to create a definition so i can have a range for 5bb in my popup:



Then i go here:



Then i go here:



Then i go here:



Then i go here:



And nothing shows up? What im I doing wrong?
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11-15-2013 , 02:08 PM
I can't tell just from screenshots but the software was built to answer this question for you
http://wiki.assaultware.com/Best-pra...efinition.ashx
Check out this tutorial (particularly steps 3 and 4) and you will get a detailed answer to your question
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11-15-2013 , 10:55 PM
Sreti - are you available for Skype consultation for Notecaddy?

Happy to pay for the assistance.
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11-16-2013 , 07:13 AM
Check out http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/16...ckage-1200373/

He does exactly what you're looking for and is super friendly and knowledgeable
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11-19-2013 , 08:12 AM
Any instructions on how to "create" those stamps? (alphahud has it)
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11-19-2013 , 09:26 PM
MachtiSonni plays by his own rules and edited the ColorDefinitions.xml file to use images smaller than what NC allows. This is not recommended as the consequences can be that it breaks your HUD completely.

I'm not sure what kind of tricks he did to his HEM HUD configuration beyond that though
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11-20-2013 , 04:17 AM
About to try out NC for the first time.

When i click on the note tab and get Note Caddy top 10, i seem to get stats from all stakes ive played, how do i adjust that to just show a single stake ?

Also, how do i adjust what stats are shown as i would like to remove some of them and possibly add others.

A link to a recommended tutorial video for complete beginners would probably be helpful

Thanks in advance.
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11-20-2013 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Hap_Hazard
About to try out NC for the first time.

When i click on the note tab and get Note Caddy top 10, i seem to get stats from all stakes ive played, how do i adjust that to just show a single stake ?
Due to how NC stores data, splitting by stakes is, unfortunately, not feasible. Storing data differently would take up a lot more disk space. However, you can go to file->filters and exclude stakes that you aren't playing from note creation. After you make a change like that you should reset your notes:
http://wiki.assaultware.com/How-to-r...ddy-notes.ashx

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Also, how do i adjust what stats are shown as i would like to remove some of them and possibly add others.
If you are going to customize I would recommend showing the data in more specific popups than in the note popup so you can much more quickly find what you need. You can get exact instructions in the "organizing notes" section of this article http://wiki.assaultware.com/Grouping...ing-notes.ashx
If you want to make some definitions completely inactive then you can do so from the definition listing on the right side of the NoteCaddy screen...

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A link to a recommended tutorial video for complete beginners would probably be helpful

Thanks in advance.
Many screens have a video icon located towards the top right. For example the video for the home screen is here http://www.assaultware.com/videos/Ho...omescreen.html and you should have a look as it demonstrates some things you asked about.

Also have a look at http://forums.holdemmanager.com/note...ead-first.html which explains some things that everyone should know
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11-23-2013 , 02:19 PM
If I purge some of my older hands in HEM2 what happens with the notecaddy database. Do I need to reset and re do the notes for it take full effect?
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11-23-2013 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by andyg2001
If I purge some of my older hands in HEM2 what happens with the notecaddy database. Do I need to reset and re do the notes for it take full effect?
Nothing will happen to the notes other than the replay function sometimes not finding the hands. If you want your data to reflect the remaining hands then you do indeed need to reset notes
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11-23-2013 , 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SretiCentV
Nothing will happen to the notes other than the replay function sometimes not finding the hands. If you want your data to reflect the remaining hands then you do indeed need to reset notes
Ok thanks.
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12-11-2013 , 04:23 AM
Hello,

I want a note definition what tells me how much times in % the bb is calling vs. a sb steal from 2-3bbs in a unopened pot, between 3 and 9 players, stacksizes of the sb and the bb blind between 5 and 15 bbs, and effective stacksizes of the blinds also between 5 and 15 to.

If you read this above it is logic that i want to be the note recipient the bigblind.

1. The General tab:
http://i.imgur.com/NCVzlbQ.png

2. The Preflop/General tab:
http://i.imgur.com/DIbSZZv.png

3. The Action Sequences tab:

Action 1(raise sb)
http://i.imgur.com/ryfAZBV.png
Position is filtered for the SB

Action 2(bb calls)
http://i.imgur.com/yCoCPHk.png
Position is filtered for the BB

If i seed now than i can't get any hands, if a seed without marked "Player had to be the note recipient" then i get alot of hands for this note definition.

I have a database with one million 6max hyper turbo hands.

And if i doesn't mark "Player had to be the note recipient" then i get hands enough, but then is the note recipient automatically in every hand the small blind what is wrong for my note definition

Ty
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12-11-2013 , 04:42 AM
Is anyone able to use Range Meister with their converted Bovada HH's? I keep getting

"Error interpreting hand history: Input string was not in the correct format."

when copying and pasting a HUSNG HH
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12-11-2013 , 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ChipKloner
Hello,

I want a note definition what tells me how much times in % the bb is calling vs. a sb steal from 2-3bbs in a unopened pot, between 3 and 9 players, stacksizes of the sb and the bb blind between 5 and 15 bbs, and effective stacksizes of the blinds also between 5 and 15 to.

If you read this above it is logic that i want to be the note recipient the bigblind.

1. The General tab:
http://i.imgur.com/NCVzlbQ.png

2. The Preflop/General tab:
http://i.imgur.com/DIbSZZv.png

3. The Action Sequences tab:

Action 1(raise sb)
http://i.imgur.com/ryfAZBV.png
Position is filtered for the SB

Action 2(bb calls)
http://i.imgur.com/yCoCPHk.png
Position is filtered for the BB

If i seed now than i can't get any hands, if a seed without marked "Player had to be the note recipient" then i get alot of hands for this note definition.

I have a database with one million 6max hyper turbo hands.

And if i doesn't mark "Player had to be the note recipient" then i get hands enough, but then is the note recipient automatically in every hand the small blind what is wrong for my note definition

Ty
That looks like it should work but often in these cases is it's something set in another tab that is causing problems. I would say try taking a hand that you know should make a note and put it into the test environment as described in step 3 of this article http://wiki.assaultware.com/Best-pra...efinition.ashx and it will give you some indication of what the problem is. I am always happy to have a look at the definition/hand combos if you remain unsure of the problem but I can't really do it on this forum since it won't allow attachments.

If you attach the definition/hand to a new thread at the HEM forum http://forums.holdemmanager.com/notecaddy/ I can give you a precise answer

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Originally Posted by TensRUs
Is anyone able to use Range Meister with their converted Bovada HH's? I keep getting

"Error interpreting hand history: Input string was not in the correct format."

when copying and pasting a HUSNG HH
If you post the converted hand here or PM it to me I can take a look. There are only very few people who use RM though and it is going to be re-released as a different type of program hopefully this month. What were you intending to use it for?
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12-11-2013 , 08:08 AM
I'm trying to develop an optimal general strategy. But yeah, here's a hand

PokerStars Hand #2875276917: Tournament #6388460, $5+$0.25 - Hold'em No Limit (10/20) - 2013/12/07 4:16:11
Table '#1' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Hero (1,500 in chips)
Seat 2: PLR_5006365VQ (1,500 in chips)
Hero: Draw for dealer [4d]
PLR_5006365VQ: Draw for dealer [Js]
PLR_5006365VQ: posts small blind 10
Hero: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [6d 2s]
PLR_5006365VQ: calls 10
Hero: checks
*** FLOP *** [5s Jh Th]
Hero: checks
PLR_5006365VQ: checks
*** TURN *** [5s Jh Th] [4s]
Hero: checks
PLR_5006365VQ: checks
*** RIVER *** [5s Jh Th 4s] [Qh]
Hero: checks
PLR_5006365VQ: bets 80
Hero: folds
Uncalled bet (80) returned to PLR_5006365VQ
PLR_5006365VQ: shows [2c Qs]
PLR_5006365VQ collected 40 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 40 | Rake 0
Board [5s Jh Th 4s Qh]
Seat 1: Hero (big blind) mucked [6d 2s]
Seat 2: PLR_5006365VQ (button) showed [2c Qs] and won (40)

To reiterate, this is a Bovada hand that is converted so it can be viewed on HM2
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12-11-2013 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TensRUs
I'm trying to develop an optimal general strategy. But yeah, here's a hand
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The made up table name (#2) is confusing the parser. Stars never uses the # in a table name so NC wasn't expecting it. I can get that fixed for the next release though. The next RM release is at least two weeks away though. The tree functionality is going away temporarily while the focus of the software will narrow to make it easier to understand. That is why I asked how you used it. I am hoping I don't irritate the ~20 people that actually use RM
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12-11-2013 , 11:26 PM
lol, thank you. Do you have any suggestions for what can replace RM for the time being? Since I'm on Bovada I don't have HUD capabilities, and therefore can't use NC
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12-12-2013 , 06:19 AM
CardRunners EV is what you want to be using. My only issue with it and every other equity calculator is that the output it produces is only as good as the ranges you manually enter for people. With RängeMeister you will still be able to establish true ranges from hands in your database so it will make sense to use it in conjunction with CardRunners EV
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