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Old 08-27-2008, 05:17 AM   #1551
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Hi,

another odd one cropped up yesterday but this is not the accumulating of 2 (possible) different player's stats or the number of players at the table (HU, 6max FR)

This one relates to time.

I had a player showing up in SE as 16K hands with very tight stats. However in HEM this player only had a few hundred hands despite having a date range covering the last year. His few 100 hands showed his stats as being totally different, this player has loosened up and become more aggressive such that he now falls into a TAG category rather than a nit.

The difference was caused by the fact that this player was often at my tables almost 2 years ago and at that time he was a nit (probably correctly at that time)!

I could get the 2 stats (SE and HEM) to agree by extending the date range in HEM to ALL hands. However, this would not be the best solution because players do change their style as they try to improve.

TY

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Old 08-27-2008, 08:52 AM   #1552
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Re: New Tableselection Software: SpadeEye

Mr. Snood,

I tried to search for this problem in the thread, and e-mailed about it before, but couldn't really find a solution.

So I'm using SpadeEye on both Full Tilt and Party with HEM. On Full Tilt everything works fine, I can datamine 18 tables all night without any problem, in the morning everything's still working fine, and nothing's lagging on my PC.

On Party it's a whole different story. The moment I start datamining, my whole system lags to the point where even my mouse cursor starts lagging behind, and every time I try to click anything it takes about 10 seconds before I get a response, even when I only mine 8 tables. After I click 'stop mining' everything's back to normal again, but when I try to close the tables through SpadeEye, my Party client freezes completely. I can see that SpadeEye is trying to close the tables, but nothing happens. The Partypoker application tab just highlights and flickers, and when I have a table opened I can see the table number changing very rapidly.

I really love using SpadeEye, but just can't get it to work properly on Party. Any suggestions?
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Old 08-27-2008, 11:41 PM   #1553
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Re: Incorrect Data

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Also, SE really needs a filter for HU, 6 max and Full Ring. I was playing 6 max v this player yet his stats in SE were completely distorted by the large number of HU hands in my DB.
Yes, such a kind of filter is already on the to-do-list.
This will be the next "bigger" change on the roadmap,
but i expect first steps on this in about 3-4 weeks.
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Old 08-27-2008, 11:43 PM   #1554
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Re: New Tableselection Software: SpadeEye

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when using spade-eye on party i cant join or open some of the tables. Today it was like 1/2 of the tables couldnt be open via spadeeye, solution?
Do you switch between the stakes in the PartyPoker lobby?
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Old 08-27-2008, 11:46 PM   #1555
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This one relates to time.
Uh, a 2 years old database is very unlikely, isn't it
When i used to play i made a new database e.g. every 3 months.
Nevertheless this problem will be focused, but unfortunately not that soon...

The best current solution for SpadeEye is to keep HU/FR/SH/old hands/new hands in distinct databases.
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Old 08-27-2008, 11:49 PM   #1556
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Re: New Tableselection Software: SpadeEye

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I really love using SpadeEye, but just can't get it to work properly on Party. Any suggestions?
- Some people reported about a freeze when datamining PartyPoker with SpadeEye and having HoldemManagers TableManager running.
Can you give it a testrun without HoldemManager being open?

- What kind of computer do you have?
More like "old" or "finest you can get for money"?
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Old 08-28-2008, 12:18 AM   #1557
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Re: New Tableselection Software: SpadeEye

My Spadeeye no longer minimizes my tables when I datamine (latest update 1.72). How can I fix this? I am using Hansa Poker software.
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Old 08-28-2008, 04:44 AM   #1558
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I have just started using the scoring tab of SE and I think it holds great promise - TY.

However, now that I am looking at data more closely, I see that SE has an odd behaviour that may not be (or probably is not) intended.

I was playing on PP using HEM and SE. The only DB referenced in SE is the HEM DB.

One player was showing as 1300 hands in SE but only came up with 200 hands in HEM.

It transpires that there is a player (or two players) in my DB with the SAME screen name on PP as FTP.

I have played:-

200 hands v him at 6 max on PP
100 hands v him on FTP @ 6 max
1000 hands v him on FTP in HU games.

Clearly SE is aggregating the data from the 2 sites and yet they could be totally different players. (HEM does NOT aggregate them, seeing them as different players which I think is the right approach)


TY - great program

Trevor
Thanks for your replies; very helpful. However, you did not respond to this problem about the same screen name on different sites bing aggregated.

Is this a problem with the program or am I doing something worng?

TYIA

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Old 08-28-2008, 05:49 PM   #1559
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Re: New Tableselection Software: SpadeEye

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- Some people reported about a freeze when datamining PartyPoker with SpadeEye and having HoldemManagers TableManager running.
Can you give it a testrun without HoldemManager being open?
Hmm, interesting, without HEM running it seems to work just fine. So I guess I should just datamine and import the handhistories afterwards.

Thanks!
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Old 08-29-2008, 12:16 AM   #1560
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Re: New Tableselection Software: SpadeEye

Using telescope and the interval scan. I have noticed that often times it will scan only the last table in the stars lobby then stop the scan and act like its complete. I have to manually scroll to the top of the stars lobby then hit scan-all for it to scan all of the tables.
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Old 08-29-2008, 11:30 AM   #1561
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Re: New Tableselection Software: SpadeEye

Mr. Snood, big fan of SE.

Snood, in addition to 'AF', can you put 'Aggression Percentage,' [Agg Pct] the calculation Roy at HM uses, into the scoring and player stats.? This would be much appreciated.

Thanks.
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Old 08-29-2008, 12:50 PM   #1562
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Re: New Tableselection Software: SpadeEye

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Hmm, interesting, without HEM running it seems to work just fine. So I guess I should just datamine and import the handhistories afterwards.

Thanks!
I've tried that too, but after like 15min datamining, HEM could only import 16 HH's...does it happen to u too? Any help Mr.Snood?
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Old 08-29-2008, 05:29 PM   #1563
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Re: New Tableselection Software: SpadeEye

Mr Snood:

Scoring. I want to assign a number value, say 100 points, to those with full sacks, ie at NL100, those with $100+ stacks will get 100 points. Stack size in scoring is 'big bets' so do I set the thing for between 50 (big bets) [$100] and up? (assume no other scoring for other things)

Also, Ive tried both ways bigbets and bigblinds and I still get shorties showing up with points - are you counting their total stacks across multiple tables? ie if a shorty is sitting on 5 tables each with a $20 stack, is it going to have him at $100 stack? and therefore award him the points? seems strange but i can't thing of another explanation of why shorties keep showing up with points in my scoring if all Im scoring for is 100 points for the full stacks.
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Old 08-30-2008, 01:46 AM   #1564
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Re: New Tableselection Software: SpadeEye

hi,

im trying out telescope at stars but whenever it is scanning and i try and view the lobby it gets minimises almost immediately which makes it hard to pick a table via the lobby. i dont have a big database at stars and want to use the lobby stats for tables where i dont have stats on villians

any pointers?

incase it helps im using v1.47b, HEM on vista

thx, ozi
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Old 08-30-2008, 10:05 PM   #1565
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Re: New Tableselection Software: SpadeEye

Hi, I posted this in the SpadeEye forum too, as I'm not sure which gets checked more:

Anyone else having problems using SpadeEye with the new PT3 beta (16)? I've been using SpadeEye for over a year without problems, both with PT2 and PT3, but I've just installed the new beta 16 of PT3 and now SpadeEye doesn't seem to recognize the database.

I changed the db in PT3, then changed the SpadeEye database settings to match, but I still get this error message when I try to scan tables:

ERROR: ERROR: relation "hhps" does not exist
Query: DECLARE myportal CURSOR FOR SELECT sum (hhps.hands), SUM(won), SUM(vpip), SUM(pfr) ... [etc, etc] ... FROM hhps WHERE player_name LIKE 'cradletograve33'

If I hit 'OK' another pop comes up:

Your database is probably not configured correct with SpadeEye .BEGIN command failed: ERROR: current transaction is aborted, commands ignored until end of transition block

And then it will scan tables, but with all stats set at '0'

So obviously something's wrong with the database settings, but I can't figure out what. Any ideas?
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Old 08-31-2008, 02:14 AM   #1566
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Re: New Tableselection Software: SpadeEye

under the options i have datamining set to close tables below x # of players. sadly semi smart datamining ignores this option. also, would be nice if semi smart datamining used the limits in the options not in the filter.
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Old 09-01-2008, 06:38 PM   #1567
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Re: New Tableselection Software: SpadeEye

dear SpadeEye developers if ur out there, no love for this question?

i'd at least like to get a feel for if this is an isolated problem or one others have but i guess i wont be buying the software at this time

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hi,

im trying out telescope at stars but whenever it is scanning and i try and view the lobby it gets minimises almost immediately which makes it hard to pick a table via the lobby. i dont have a big database at stars and want to use the lobby stats for tables where i dont have stats on villians

any pointers?

incase it helps im using v1.47b, HEM on vista

thx, ozi
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Old 09-01-2008, 08:35 PM   #1568
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Re: New Tableselection Software: SpadeEye

I get this message when trying to update to the latest version..

From WinRAR Diagnostic messags

Cannot create SpadeEye.exe
! Access is denied.

Any suggestions?
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Old 09-01-2008, 09:54 PM   #1569
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I get this message when trying to update to the latest version..

From WinRAR Diagnostic messags
Cannot create SpadeEye.exe
! Access is denied.
Any suggestions?
Never heard about this error.
I guess its
1) Vista specific error?
or
2) the download failed. retry.
or
3) You are using an outdated zip application.

Nevertheless you can simply update by install the new version on top of your old.
So just download the installer...
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Old 09-01-2008, 09:55 PM   #1570
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Thanks for your replies; very helpful. However, you did not respond to this problem about the same screen name on different sites bing aggregated.
Is this a problem with the program or am I doing something worng?
This is a problem with the program.
I will consider this when adding the filters...
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Old 09-01-2008, 09:56 PM   #1571
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Re: New Tableselection Software: SpadeEye

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Using telescope and the interval scan. I have noticed that often times it will scan only the last table in the stars lobby then stop the scan and act like its complete. I have to manually scroll to the top of the stars lobby then hit scan-all for it to scan all of the tables.
Okay, means the interval scan does not jump back to the top of the lobby.
Will fix that.
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Old 09-01-2008, 09:58 PM   #1572
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Snood, in addition to 'AF', can you put 'Aggression Percentage,' [Agg Pct] the calculation Roy at HM uses, into the scoring and player stats.? This would be much appreciated.
Chances are low that this is being added, as it's a HoldemManager statistic only?
And I guess people barely select their tables by aggression percentage?
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Old 09-01-2008, 09:59 PM   #1573
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I've tried that too, but after like 15min datamining, HEM could only import 16 HH's...does it happen to u too? Any help Mr.Snood?
This is when datamining Party?
First 10 minutes work well then it brakes down?
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Old 09-01-2008, 10:01 PM   #1574
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hi,
im trying out telescope at stars but whenever it is scanning and i try and view the lobby it gets minimises almost immediately which makes it hard to pick a table via the lobby.
Unfortunately this behaviour is unavoidable.
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Old 09-01-2008, 10:03 PM   #1575
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Re: New Tableselection Software: SpadeEye

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under the options i have datamining set to close tables below x # of players. sadly semi smart datamining ignores this option. also, would be nice if semi smart datamining used the limits in the options not in the filter.
Well, the idea of semi smart datamining is to open the tables by a scanresult.
Thus it relies on the scanning filters...
Tweaking it to close tables if they fall outside a bound will be added.
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