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12-08-2009 , 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by welshdave
Has anyone running this on a hackintosh netbook? I've got a Dell Mini 9 running 10.6.2 with 2GB ram that I'd love to try this on.
One beta tester told me he'd try on very fast hackintosh but then I never heard of him anymore : (

You're new so I can't PM you and you can't PM you so just leave your email in the thread and I'll send you an invite... I'd like to know it if runs or not on a Hackintosh!
12-08-2009 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TacticalCoder
One beta tester told me he'd try on very fast hackintosh but then I never heard of him anymore : (

You're new so I can't PM you and you can't PM you so just leave your email in the thread and I'll send you an invite... I'd like to know it if runs or not on a Hackintosh!
It's my username here at gmail.com. Don't know whether it'd count as very fast though - it's just an Atom processor (32GB SSD though - so disk access/startup time is quick).
12-09-2009 , 03:16 AM
Hey,
I really want to try this program, I am a relative newbie, got transferred 5$ from a friend and deposited 15$, now I am up to 80$ getting ready to move to 5NL from 2NL.

I have a MacBookPro on Snow Leopard and would like to test this baby out.

you can email at aaronpkirsch@gmail.com...

Cheers,
PB
12-09-2009 , 07:32 PM
How do you save the Hand History folders for Auto import?

Everytime I exit the program they get lost, and Xypto says I must configure my
autoimport folders.
12-10-2009 , 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Jonathan
How do you save the Hand History folders for Auto import?

Everytime I exit the program they get lost, and Xypto says I must configure my
autoimport folders.
at this point, the database created after you import all of your HHs is not persisted to disk when you exit the program; you must re-import all of your hands every time you start Xypto. similarly, it does not yet remember your auto-import folders from your last import session. it's tedious, but i have been told by TacticalCoder that this will be changed prior to a 1.0 release.

re-importing all of your hands really shouldn't be a big issue though. i can import 2 million hands (stars, 6-max cash) in just over 2 minutes, and 1 million SNG hands (stars and FTP, 9-max with and without antes) in 4 minutes. start the import, go make some coffee, come back and it's done.
12-10-2009 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by GoldnEagl
re-importing all of your hands really shouldn't be a big issue though. i can import 2 million hands (stars, 6-max cash) in just over 2 minutes, and 1 million SNG hands (stars and FTP, 9-max with and without antes) in 4 minutes. start the import, go make some coffee, come back and it's done.


It's good to see a volume player posting in this thread... Especially when it's to tell that importing millions of hands is a matter of minutes : )

As GoldnEagl wrote... A lot of niceties are coming before 1.0 but it's still a beta, which is why I need your help: feedback / bug reports / suggestions / etc.

Several people asked for the number of hands to be displayable as "4.3k" instead of "4325" etc. so I added it (and it's configurable: you're not forced to use the abbrev).

Every stat can be configured to either have one or zero decimal. In the screenshot below, AF and PF 3Bet have been configured to use one decimal, the other stats don't. As usual, I don't recommend using such a layout, it's just to show things are customizable (layout on the left is mine, layout on the right was made for Full Tilt by one beta-tester and has now been included in Xypto):



Color-range codes can now be assigned to the "number of hands" stats too.

If I forgot anyone just PM me
12-11-2009 , 09:31 AM
Hi, I bought a new 17" macbook pro a month ago or so and had been running HEM in bootcamp. For some reason Win 7 kept freezing up on me whenever a browser is open, so I just decided to switch over to the Mac universe for good, and I've been very happy with it. EXCEPT for the fact that I can't really grind without a good HUD, but it looks like you solved that issue.

I'd love to be a beta tester, I have a background in software development and design and would be happy to share any thoughts I have. I'd also be willing to ship some monies for the opportunity..
12-13-2009 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TacticalCoder
It's good to see a volume player posting in this thread... Especially when it's to tell that importing millions of hands is a matter of minutes : )
This is what made me tick when my friend told me about that software. I think this is really big. I mean, I am a programmer and this looks like quite an impressive thing.



this is cool.

I just read the whole thread, kindof. If this thing is for real I think it is really really huge. Can I use it like PokerStove too I see no screenshot with PokerStove? You say you have it 40 times faster than PokerStove too but no screenshot of anything looking like PokerStove here or on photobucket. I need PokerStove on Mac and I don't want to run Windows

same nickname (with 'ck') yahoo fr

There are not many people posting feedback in this thread but then Dazbog says it is as you say. If it's really like in the screenshot then I want to be part of the beta and I'll give help! I have used trackers on Windows, several, and I have used tracker only for Mac too but this time I am really excited.

Looking for your invitation in my mailbox
12-14-2009 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by treeckool
There are not many people posting feedback in this thread but then Dazbog says it is as you say. If it's really like in the screenshot then I want to be part of the beta...
It is really like I say... And I think it's kinda big but ssshhhhttt, I'm keeping a low-profile as of now it's still a private beta

Regarding that "AJ+ vs TT+ vs 55+" kindof stuff. Yup, we do a full enum 40 times faster than PokerStove, it's really true too. I'm not making up things in this thread. But then to answer your question: we're not putting the tab allowing to do that yet in the software. It's scheduled but only for 1.1, I've got other stuff to work on first.

We've worked very hard to develop a very slick, fast, rock-stable solid and efficient foundation to work upon and now we're putting a nice (?) GUI around it (at least the new graphical HUD Layout Editor screen is very nice I think) and more stats etc.

Invites sent by PM to the people who PM'ed me and by email to you, so you can see for yourself that we're not making things up (btw I can see you have a .fr email, french speaker here so you can email me in french if you want)
12-15-2009 , 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by TacticalCoder
(at least the new graphical HUD Layout Editor screen is very nice I think)
Ahh, no.

Not to rain on your parade, but switching to a HUD layout editor, nudging stats around your tables, saving, and waiting for the HUD to refresh to see the results is not nice.

Right-clicking HUD stats and dragging them where you want without ever leaving the poker client is nice. And it's been done, so doing anything less convenient is a drawback.

That said, PokerTracker Mac still isn't out, so you win...
12-15-2009 , 09:07 AM
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Right-clicking HUD stats and dragging them where you want without ever leaving the poker client is nice
Oh but that's a good suggestion... Actually it's really not hard to add.

The idea behind the HUD Layout Editor is to be able to graphically edit your layout, positionning every single stat pixel-wise if you wish and then, well, not ever have to move stats manually again. And it's not just to adjust the stats, it shall also be used to position precisely where you want to other things like mucked cards from previous deal (which is hinted in the current editor even tough the feature ain't there yet) and other things too, which I'm not revealing yet

But, yup, I could also allow people to drag stats around.

That said, you really don't need to leave the poker client nor to "wait for the HUD to refresh": when I fine-tune a HUD I simply leave the HUD Layout Editor opened side-by-side with one table from the poker client. I make modification in the editor, I get a good idea of what it's going to look like in the preview in the editor and when I click on 'save' the real HUD on the poker site disappears and instantly reappears. This on a old Mac Mini / 1 GB of ram. It's certainly not "waiting for the HUD to refresh": you don't need to wait for a new deal. By the time I click on the 'save' button and move my eyes to poker table the HUD has refreshed with the changes.

It's good to see beta-testers believing in the software and helping making it better by making great reports and suggestions, like fixed limit support which got added in 24 hours, keep them coming
12-15-2009 , 11:24 AM
Well, I've been prompted to post a reply here again. And not by TC, btw.

@ treeckool: Yes, I REALLY like this so far, and it has gotten 150% better since I originally started with it. Also, I can assist you in setting up PokerStove on a Mac if you like. It involves X11 and Wine to work, but it DOES work. PM me if you like and I can point you in the right direction.

When I first got a hold of Xypto, the HUD was marginal at best and stat reporting was minimal but ok. Now, despite what others have said, Xypto is a very usable and configurable tracker with a very good HUD. It is not PokerTracker or HEM, but at this rate, it will be comparable relatively soon. Most people do not realize the amount of work that goes into building software. If you don't believe that, try it yourself. I have, and can attest to the fact that it is not easy. For Xypto, support is good, updates are frequent, and the software is pretty stable. Remember, it's a BETA.

Oh, and be thankful that someone is supporting and building on the Mac platform. Mac users have been the red-headed stepchildren of the software world for quite some time. Please show some support for this product and let's all help to build a better tracker.
12-15-2009 , 12:44 PM
any plans to make it work with PLO?
12-15-2009 , 04:07 PM
Here are the issues that have me flummoxed:

1. The HUD does not appear to understand fully the relative positioning of the players when I am "auto-centered" on FTP. This means that sometimes the position labeling is quite off.

2. Xypto appears to be mounting a disk image (.dmg), called simply "untitled," which is involved in running some AppleScript which appears to involve matching up the HUD with the play window. This .dmg file simply will NOT unmount for me, much less cleanly unmount when I quit Xypto.

3. As other users have reported, Xypto is not remembering the Auto-import settings.

This looks like a promising project, but the above are keeping me from abandoning Poker Copilot completely -- for now.
12-15-2009 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Odds Bodkins
2. Xypto appears to be mounting a disk image (.dmg), called simply "untitled," which is involved in running some AppleScript which appears to involve matching up the HUD with the play window. This .dmg file simply will NOT unmount for me, much less cleanly unmount when I quit Xypto.
this is a RAM disk and the AppleScript is used to keep track of the front most window for the HUD. apparently OS X does not define an easy way to do this so the RAM disk (and the script) is a workaround.

the only way to get rid of it is to restart your system..it's in RAM so logging out or trying to unmount it manually simply won't work. of course, after you start xypto again post restart it'll reappear.

afaik, the most recent beta does not include this code so you don't have to worry about it.
12-15-2009 , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by TacticalCoder
...when I click on 'save' the real HUD on the poker site disappears and instantly reappears. This on a old Mac Mini / 1 GB of ram.
Well, I'm on a 5-year-old PowerPC G5 iMac (also 1 GB), so that may explain the lag.
12-15-2009 , 09:51 PM
Hey Odds,

flumoxxing issues indeed!

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Originally Posted by Odds Bodkins
The HUD does not appear to understand fully the relative positioning of the players when I am "auto-centered" on FTP. This means that sometimes the position labeling is quite off.
Beta-testers recently reported a bug concerning FT / shorthanded tourneys where stats are not correctly positionned.

I found the bug and I'm going to smash it but anyway I'll move to something easier to position the stats: you'll still be able to prepare your "label" (group of stats) visually, but you'll then be able to position it directly on the table.

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2. Xypto appears to be mounting a disk image (.dmg), called simply "untitled," which is involved in running some AppleScript which appears to involve matching up the HUD with the play window. This .dmg file simply will NOT unmount for me, much less cleanly unmount when I quit Xypto.
Oh that was a really short-lived beta ; )

GoldnEagle made me notice that that volume was just plain confusing and unacceptable (the unmounting bug ain't mine, it's a known issue with ramdisks) so I just pulled the beta of the website and removed the 'feature'.

Newer betas don't have that problem anymore.

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3. As other users have reported, Xypto is not remembering the Auto-import settings.
I know I know, shame on me... I promised to fix that and it's really annoying, it's even annoying me big times. This one becomes 'highest priority'.

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This looks like a promising project...
Thank you
12-16-2009 , 03:18 PM
Hi there! Can I get in on this beta test?

I've got a core-duo macbook pro, and I play on stars and full tilt.

email me at narrowfellow at gmail dot com
12-16-2009 , 08:09 PM
I really love the the concept that you don't have to install a seperate DBMS because the software has everything built in already. The minimalism regarding resources is also something I really like. The only thing that I have a problem with is... uh... I'm on PC

How hard would it be to port this app to PC?

BTW, from what it looks like, TC, you are doing a great job with this and I really wish you success in all areas with Xypto
12-17-2009 , 04:43 PM
I would like to beta test if it's still available.

I have uMBP, 2.4ghz, 15.4, 2gb, 250gb

I play exclusively on Pokerstars and Full Tilt.

email taekwood at yahoo.com
12-17-2009 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by One
How hard would it be to port this app to PC?
as far as i'm aware most everything, excluding the HUD, is written in Java so after a little tweaking most of it should run ok..haven't tried though
12-17-2009 , 08:31 PM
@ Straw & narrowfellow & those who PM'ed me: invites sent (if I forgot anyone just re-PM etc.)

@ One: Thanks I wanted from scratch to have something easy (but powerful) to use/install, small, fast and accurate. At first I made it for myself (I used to be a huge grinder but I calmed down a bit... I still sometimes put in crazy sessions that said ; ) then at one point decided that it may be helpful for other players too. Not only there's no 3rd party software to install but it's also really a one-click install (a "one-drag-n-drop" install on OS X).

I really like it that as of now you can already click the d/l link, install it (first launch takes some time), import say 1 million hand, and have your HUD running in a matter of minutes.

As GoldnEagl wrote: the software is 99% Java and 1% OS X specific. The tracker works "nearly as is" on Windows and Linux. I continually test the tracker on different OS X versions (10.4, 10.5 and 10.6) but also on at least two different OSes (typically OS X / Linux but sometimes OS X / Windows) to make sure things stay portable.

That said the HUD is OS X only.

As of now the plan is to go for a public beta when basic tourneys reporting shall be in there and when annoying bugs have been smashed.

Then 1.0 for Hold'em (both NL and fixed Limit and both cash games and tourneys/SnG) only and for OS X only.

Then we've not decided yet which direction(s) we'll take. I'm getting more help from my brother who's starting to take this more seriously now that he sees that there are some people giving good feedback : )

@ cts : regarding Omaha... Maybe one day but in any case 1.0 shall be Hold'em only : )

Anyway we're not there yet: it's still a beta and there are still features missing and bugs to fix and things to change
12-18-2009 , 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by GoldnEagl
as far as i'm aware most everything, excluding the HUD, is written in Java so after a little tweaking most of it should run ok..haven't tried though
I'm on Mac now but have it working on Windows to test. No HUD but I tried the HUD on OS X with 2 monitors 12+6 tables fine no issue. On Windows import speeds are very fast too.

I posted in another thread saying this was maybe big and I'm not disappointed.

Now I see you can really make your coffee and comeback and have 1 million hand import at 3000hands by second. Now I want a faster Mac to see faster numbers lol.

Every number you can put your mouse on top and then it tells where the number comes from. The replayer is ugly but it gives correct call odds, I asked question in the private beta forum and made lots of testing with the replayer, verifying the call odds. Calls odds are right even when one calls all-in and there are people that will call after him. I'm a dev in my day job so maybe I'm seeing with dev eyes but this is not easy to do, you cannot use the hand history pots because they are of no importance to find the call odds in many deals when someone calls allin and then people call after him.

There seems to be quality at the root of this software.

I am euro so I like the multicurrency support too
12-18-2009 , 07:33 PM
Actually the hud is not that important for me right now. So I can't wait until this goes into public beta. Then I'll try to run the tracker on windows.
12-22-2009 , 01:01 PM
PM sent to join Beta. This program looks pretty cool!

      
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