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New Software: PokerEV (Tracker + Coming HUD) New Software: PokerEV (Tracker + Coming HUD)

01-12-2008 , 09:33 PM
Something to play with, not the whole thing. I still have to finalize a couple of things like compiled stats, the player vs player tab, fix some incorrect stats, and get the database ready for the HUD (which is close to a first alpha version).

I'm going to release the replayer to try out Sunday night, which has a couple of novel features not shown above. For those who want to switch over from the HM replayer, you should be able to just copy to the clipboard in HM and click "from clipboard" in PokerEV, which will load all the hands, or you can load from a file.
01-12-2008 , 11:05 PM
Congrats with your program.
Looks very good

I read that the tournament support is not good and basicly lacking compared to pokertracker.
I would like to see better tournament support because there are no real good tracking programs for tournaments.
It is kind of weird that tournament players need a website like sharkscope because that is the only 'program' that shows tournament stats in a clear fashion. Ofcourse sharkscope is far to shallow to use as a decent tracking program, therefor I hope you will improve on the tournament support so Pokerev is the first program that is decent for tournament players.
01-13-2008 , 10:14 AM
Will the EV of SNGs be measurable in ICM?
01-13-2008 , 05:54 PM
yo phil
would you be able to included datamine feature like PT2
01-13-2008 , 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by LMON
It's Sunday night, where is it? Can't wait...
FYP

Well, on second thought, I guess I can ....... but would rather not ...........well, hopefully soon.
01-13-2008 , 10:02 PM
I decided to integrate the new replayer and parsers with the old PokerEV for the benefit of those not upgrading.

Since there's no database in the old PokerEV, it runs off a "virtual" database so you won't have full database features and all the stats, but things like the customizable datagrid and filters work, and it's a big step up from what's currently available. It's a bit of work to integrate and I'm putting it up late tonight, possibly early AM US time.
01-13-2008 , 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Jehaim
Will the EV of SNGs be measurable in ICM?
Probably not for at least a month. Too much to do before then. For those who haven't seen it, there's a new program out called SNG Luck Analyzer which will do a lot of what of you ask. http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...d.php?t=102873

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Originally Posted by allyasia
yo phil
would you be able to included datamine feature like PT2
Not sure what you mean.

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Originally Posted by playjoy
I read that the tournament support is not good and basicly lacking compared to pokertracker.
I would like to see better tournament support because there are no real good tracking programs for tournaments.
It is kind of weird that tournament players need a website like sharkscope because that is the only 'program' that shows tournament stats in a clear fashion. Ofcourse sharkscope is far to shallow to use as a decent tracking program, therefor I hope you will improve on the tournament support so Pokerev is the first program that is decent for tournament players.
Tournament support will be very good eventually, but not in the immediate future. By mid February tournament features will be a lot closer to what they should be, but that depends on how many issues there are on beta.
01-14-2008 , 06:06 AM
Phil,

I have been using pokerev for a while and am a big fan of the software. Something important to me in tracking software would be the ability to filter hands based on my opponents stats. I would like to be able to see all hands I play against fish, tags, calling stations, short stacks etc. I would like to find out how well or poorly I play against different opponent types.
01-14-2008 , 11:22 AM
No update today, apologies. There were some unexpected problems integrating the old PokerEV with the new replayer so it'll have to wait.

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I have been using pokerev for a while and am a big fan of the software. Something important to me in tracking software would be the ability to filter hands based on my opponents stats. I would like to be able to see all hands I play against fish, tags, calling stations, short stacks etc. I would like to find out how well or poorly I play against different opponent types.
This is difficult to implement since it either takes a very long time to run or, if you make it fast, makes the database quite a bit larger. I'll see what can be done.
01-14-2008 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Phil153
No update today, apologies. There were some unexpected problems integrating the old PokerEV with the new replayer so it'll have to wait.


This is difficult to implement since it either takes a very long time to run or, if you make it fast, makes the database quite a bit larger. I'll see what can be done.
Cheers for the response. I actually played about with this kind of thing today with Holdem manager. I basically assigned all players who had post flop aggro higher than 4 to an alias, all guys with postflop aggro less than 2 to another alias, all guys who raise cbets more than 20 percent of the time to an alias etc.

Seeing how much money I'd won/lost to different player types was frankly mindblowing in both good and bad ways. The problem is of course that adding each player to the alias was a slow, cumbersome task. I see you have a drag and drop option for this, so as long as doing it via aliases is made very easy (like highlighting lots of player names, right clicking and adding them all to an alias in one step) and viewing all hands played against aliases is easy then that would do for me.

With No Limit holdem play being so opponent dependent I think it is just as important to see how you play against different opponent types as it is to see how you play hands from UTG.

Really looking forward to trying out the software.
01-14-2008 , 06:01 PM
for PT2 i can import observe hand history
so datamine on FTP is possible with PT2.
can pokerEV do the same?
01-14-2008 , 06:20 PM
Posting this idea for all new software. I think it would be excellent.

01-15-2008 , 04:43 AM
can you please automate the time offset (dont forget brittish summer tie)
and also make sure that hands with different time zones but played at the same time are shown to be played at the same time for true hourly rate calculatoins, for examples pokerstars is 1 hour ahead of crypto and pt doesn't account for this
01-15-2008 , 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by TheProdigy
Posting this idea for all new software. I think it would be excellent.

Why do you think it would be useful to have FPP information on other players?

EDIT: Or am I reading it wrong and you mean it's simply for tracking your own fpp's?

Last edited by megatron; 01-15-2008 at 09:26 AM.
01-15-2008 , 12:59 PM
Looks awsome!
01-15-2008 , 01:44 PM
this looks great, will the HUD work for everest?
01-16-2008 , 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by fruitloops
and also make sure that hands with different time zones but played at the same time are shown to be played at the same time for true hourly rate calculatoins, for examples pokerstars is 1 hour ahead of crypto and pt doesn't account for this
Second this.
01-20-2008 , 02:29 AM
i couldn't find anyone with a similar problem, but it won't load any hands when i put in my criteria. it says 0 hands found. i then tried to put in my Postgres info manually under the settings tab and it said database doesn't exist?

i found one guy with a similar problem and you said that a firewall may be preventing the software from accessing database info, but i have no firewall.

please help. i loved the software when i first tried it out a while back and wanted to give it a go with my most recent stretch of hands. thanks.
01-20-2008 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by fruitloops
and also make sure that hands with different time zones but played at the same time are shown to be played at the same time for true hourly rate calculatoins, for examples pokerstars is 1 hour ahead of crypto and pt doesn't account for this
I can't promise this will be perfect for everyone, but time zones and DST is accounted for.

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couldn't find anyone with a similar problem, but it won't load any hands when i put in my criteria. it says 0 hands found.
I sent you a PM with some things to try

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this looks great, will the HUD work for everest?
Not at first. Everest won't be supported at first release in the tracker either, but it's a priority.

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for PT2 i can import observe hand history
so datamine on FTP is possible with PT2.
can pokerEV do the same?
Yes, I think all the trackers can do this.

Update: Still working on a couple of things. Getting it from working to polished is taking a long time, but it should mean fewer bugs and hassles.
01-22-2008 , 01:46 PM
I'd like to see an adjustment to the SBux calculator where bux are determined by hand ranges. Like if an opponent is running at VPIP of < 17% you know his range is
22+,Suited Connectors,AXs,AJ+
So basically how our hands play against a villains range, given his VPIP
01-22-2008 , 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Phil153
Update: Still working on a couple of things. Getting it from working to polished is taking a long time, but it should mean fewer bugs and hassles.

Hi Phil,

Your program looks great. I hope we get to see something soonish I hope its a success.
01-22-2008 , 10:33 PM
HM cut the beta today, and PT3 is coming out today or tomorrow, so here's an update for those wondering what's happening with PokerEV:

Tracker release: Wednesday, January 30th.
HUD release: Friday, February 8th.

Intial support is limited to Party, Stars and Full Tilt, with Everest, iPoker and Ultimate Bet added in the first week after release. There is already support for these sites, but it needs broader private testing which I'll ask for on the first release.

Expect some bugs in the first few days, which will be fixed very quickly.
01-22-2008 , 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Orlando Salazar
I'd like to see an adjustment to the SBux calculator where bux are determined by hand ranges. Like if an opponent is running at VPIP of < 17% you know his range is
22+,Suited Connectors,AXs,AJ+
So basically how our hands play against a villains range, given his VPIP
I spent some time looking into this and it doesn't work that well using a rigid ruleset. Too many differences between stakes and player styles. For example, a good LAG might have a tight flop range when played back at - just using an estimate based on VPIP will give hopelessly wrong results for your g-bux in this situation. There are ways of making these calculations useful, but they still require a player to spend time reviewing the hands since you can't really get automatic aggregate results that are reliable.
01-23-2008 , 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Phil153
Tracker release: Wednesday, January 30th.
Jan 24 would be good
01-23-2008 , 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by sf0857
Jan 24 would be good
I know

I expect it to be ready before the 30th, I'm just giving a final date that people can rely on. Note that it won't be anything like HM's initial beta - in terms of design, features, speed and stability I think you'll find it vastly superior to what they're now charging money for.

      
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