I kinda like it and kinda don't with the tabs.

1) If I want to look at something specific I get something specific.

but

2) If I want to look at two things at once, what happens if they are split

Would it be possible to get somekind of break-even fold equity display for the replayer? So you could analyze draw shoving situations against different stack sizes and villain's range.

I think it'd take at least a week to implement this properly and there'll be all kinds of security concerns with poker clients and whatnot running at the same time. I'd probably write something like this for myself but not in a commercial app for now.

I started out with docking and it soon turned into a usability nightmare as complexity increased, even for someone used to docking. Most people just aren't familiar with advanced docking and the application will feel unfriendly if I go that way. I'm going to reduce clutter in other ways and have some features that make viewing mutiple items easier.

I'll see what I can do.

Any screen-sharing app, like TeamViewer,would be sufficient for this, I think.

hi phil

will it be possible to use PokerEV to filter stats based on flop "types" (inc number of flop high cards/ number of flop connected cards/ highest card on flop/ flop tone etc), and create stats specifically for certain flop types?

thanks

Download.com has crossloop ( a freeware) as one of 2007's best downloads, i gave it a try, kinda liked it. Remote acces etc... but i havent tried any other programs so there might be better ones out there.

When do you think is the public beta available, I mean I know you can't give an exact date but do you think rather a few days or few weeks or at the end of the month etc.

Hi Phil, I have to say I am very impressed with what it looks like you have done so far. I have one question. You stated that we would be able to add support for new sites using your standardized hand parser. Will the HUD work with those sites as well? Also, if we have a hand history converter that converts an unsupported site's HH's to, say, a Pokerstars format that is supported natively by PokerEV, will the HUD work for that site? Thanks!

Ryan

Yes, that's all doable.

Less than a few weeks, likely more than a few days. Either way I'll release something to play with this weekend if the whole thing isn't done. All the screenshots are functional (the importing speed has gone up as well with a few tweaks) and it's just a matter of getting everything to where I'm happy with the average user trying it out.

The way the HUD config files are set out, it's possible to tweak some values and get it working on any site, but with the smaller sites there's usually site specific problems that get in the way. The HUD doesn't run off the database during play - that's the main reason there could be problems.

About stat creation...
I just thought of this last night: will it be possible to create a HUD stat that shows the % of time villain showed down a set (or boat or quads), while holding a pocket pair? I believe this could come in handy against set miners.

You've made me a very happy man.

I haven't read the whole thread but the one question I have is whether I will be able to see how good or bad I am running with any reasonable accuracy, excluding all ins which are obviously easy to calculate. The whole sklansky bux system was obviously very rough in determining how lucky you are all around, I'm wondering if there will be a reasonably accurate graph as to how much you should be making compared to what you are making?

It's impossible to determine what you should have made because it depends on game type, opponent styles, what they were dealt, and so on. You can use things like all-in calcs to cut out some of the variance but a decent part can't be quantified.

That said, PokerEV is built around EV analysis and there's a few extra features at beta and more just before it goes on sale.

Id just like to see one of the setometer metrics expanded. Something that shows how often TT+ runs into JJ+ and how often AK runs into KK/AA

yea, i agree. if you could implement some of the setometer functionality into pokerev, it would be really great.

You guys should really include some of the European Rooms (where it tax free for Eureans to play) since most serious european players play there.

These sites are on networks as: Ongame, Cryptologic, Prima (and party which is allready supported.

Otherwise you will loose out on the european market; as many of the potential buyers simply doesn-t play those rooms that you support (except Party).

You can thank UIGEA for that, imo.

yawn, its friday, gimmie, gimmie, gimmie.

Wow looks great

Looks really good, one thing that would be nice is just a simple way to sort the column by the exact hand you held, I don't think the old EV did this.

Like just click the column and it'll show only how much you won preflop with AA for easy viewing.

i would like to see the following i haven't read through the thread so they may be already included/ already requested.

1. the ability to filter a range of hands drectly from the ev graph. i.e you draw a box with teh mouse around a section of the graph and these hands are selected by the filter for you to look at.

2. an implied odds reviewer function, similar to slanksy bucks, but suppose you bet the turn with a made hand vs. a draw for a positive expection on the turn bet but then call a river beat larger than this positive expectation slanksy bucks show you down however if the bet was small enough so his implied odds<odds of hitting you did infact make a positive expecation play.

Got a bug in the current version I think.

In this picture, the software shows my SB or EV as $68 when I get all in preflop against a $115 stack and my EV should be at least $92. HH is below the IMG



FullTiltPoker Game #4828277287: Table Newburg (6 max) - $1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 2:03:41 ET - 2008/01/12
Seat 1: futhenbuddy ($200.80)
Seat 2: jwpoker4 ($256.85)
Seat 3: carguy612 ($331.45)
Seat 4: Blackize ($255)
Seat 5: xTDOUGx ($227.30)
Seat 6: lostboy79 ($115)
carguy612 posts the small blind of $1
Blackize posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Blackize [Kc Kd]
xTDOUGx folds
lostboy79 raises to $7
futhenbuddy folds
jwpoker4 folds
carguy612 folds
Blackize raises to $24
lostboy79 has 15 seconds left to act
lostboy79 raises to $115, and is all in
Blackize calls $91
lostboy79 shows [Ts Th]
Blackize shows [Kc Kd]
*** FLOP *** [9h Jc 4s]
*** TURN *** [9h Jc 4s] [3c]
*** RIVER *** [9h Jc 4s 3c] [2s]
lostboy79 shows a pair of Tens
Blackize shows a pair of Kings
Blackize wins the pot ($228) with a pair of Kings
lostboy79 is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $231 | Rake $3
Board: [9h Jc 4s 3c 2s]
Seat 1: futhenbuddy didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: jwpoker4 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: carguy612 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: Blackize (big blind) showed [Kc Kd] and won ($228) with a pair of Kings
Seat 5: xTDOUGx didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: lostboy79 showed [Ts Th] and lost with a pair of Tens

It looks ok to me. You need to remember that with 80% equity, you're risking 20% of your stack as well, which comes off your NetSB. Your expected earn is $231 (total pot size) minus $3 rake times 0.805 (equity).

So, net expectation = (231-3)*0.805 - (the amount you put in = $115)
= 183.54 - 115 = $68.54.

This is the NetSB value. It's slightly different to the value quoted due to the fact that old version uses a monte carlo algorithm to calculate preflop EV, which makes each preflop EV calc slightly above or below the true value (but cancels out in cumulative results, such as graphs).

I agree, and will be adding sites shortly after release. Note that you won't be able to run EV on most of the European sites as they don't save mucked cards.

This is already in there.

This is possible with a custom stat, but I'll add that to the default list. Some of the new graphs are designed to investigate these kind of situations as well.

Ahh I hate being impatient but how long until the release we get to play around with?

Cheers.

It's saturday night, where is it? Can't wait...