Me: Hey anton
Me: Ongb is a good product
Me: Why don't you answer the forum guys that doubt the security?
Me: Solve the problem move on
ONG: I answered several times for last 5 pages
Me: Yes but you think it's easy to see it's safe
Me: Most of us can't tell for sure and don't know how to check
ONG: U can send ongbetter to any antivirus and they will confirm that it is false positive.
ONG: Il sent it to several top antiviruses and they fix this false positive, but I don't know how to do this with small one
Me: Yes I agree you've shown that multiple times
Me: Multiple false positives
ONG:
http://ongbetter.com/forum/8-general...false-positive
Me: So I don't think that's the biggest issue
Me: People more concerned about super using, hole card info etc
ONG: here is the description of this false positives
ONG: I wrote several times hoe to check out going traffic
ONG: it's very simple
ONG: download any TCP/IP monitor
ONG: and check outgoing traffic from ongbetter
ONG: and u will see only request to ongame server for HH if function "show mucked cards" enabled
Me: Listen I'm just trying to help you succeed
ONG: If "show mucked cards" disabled ongbetter will be obsolutly silent
Me: So please realize many potential ongb buyers won't test it on their own
ONG: I understand that u want to help
ONG: but stupied discussion take to many time
Me: You've said that in the thread but no one there is knowledgeable
ONG: I'm professional poker player and professional programmer
ONG: ongbetter just my hobby
ONG: and I have 4 more projects
Me: Fair enough then I am selfish because I want ongb to succeed
Me: It's
Me: A great tool.
ONG: If somebody don't believe me or don't want to use it their rights
Me: Fair but I suggest a small effort could make it easy for them to believe
Me: Make it easier to sell a few more and spend more time on it
Me: Which helps us users too
Me: So yes I'm biased
ONG: Try to do this but it is useless
The most decisive argument for them that I'm from russia
Me: Yeah I don't blame you if you're pissed off about that
Me: Bull**** posts IMO.
Me: Hey what do you think of me posting this whole chat in the ongb thread?
Me: It might explain to people a little bit.
ONG: Of, couse u can post this to thread.
Me: hi again.
Me: ok will maybe try to post it tomorrow
Me: do you think you will take any extra steps to try to prove ongb is safe?
ONG: what do u mean "extra steps"?
Me: i mean like getting the code inspected by a third party like some suggested
Me: or getting confirmation for people of what causes the false positives from virus software
Me: or demonstrating that the two-way traffic doesn't happen without 'show hole cards' selected
Me: knowing this stuff may be easy for programmers like you but not for your average customer / user
ONG: Hi, I understand U, I'll prepare video about how to check outgoing traffic. About false positive most of them already fixed at this version and there is a big article on our forum about this
http://ongbetter.com/forum/8-general...false-positive