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Old 07-31-2020, 05:06 PM   #1376
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Can anyone point me to a tool or guide on how to create range files for monkersolver? Thanks in advance for the help.
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Old 08-04-2020, 02:51 PM   #1377
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Any way to pause a sim without having it revert back to an unsolved state?

Just paused one with 5 I/N and came back to restart it, now it's at 0 I/N again.
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Old 08-07-2020, 11:18 AM   #1378
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Thanks!

Do I have to keep the filter syntax in the filter box for the entire duration of the sim if I want to maintain the nodelock?

Do I need to node lock at the very beginning of the sim for results to make sense? I'm running preflop trees here I force a player to open the pot and I want to node lock the open range instead of opening ATC which is what Monker would have him open unless I adjust that. I would prefer to just use the "Ranges" function in the tree building window but that is always blocked for preflop trees it seems, so node locking seems like the only way to do what I want to do. My concern is if I don't correctly node lock at the very beginning I will get meaningless results.

If I node lock in the middle of a sim will the I/N value change as the downstream nodes get updated? I would expect the I/N to drop initially then move back up as the downstream nodes are recalculated based on the new node locking?
Once you have locked in your range, you do not have to leave the syntax in the filter field.

Regardless of when you perform the node lock, you will have to let the solver run for a reasonable amount of iterations for your solution to converge. You can monitor this by observing whether or not the solution is changing significantly.

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Hi what is good accuracy to aolve to?
Broadly speaking ~30-40 I/N for preflop, and ~20-30 I/N for postflop.

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why the strategies change when I press enter to go from simplified to mixed strategy a few times
the simplified always change its combos (e.g on the first it was 3Betting KJs KQs, after pressing enter twice it is now 3Betting KTs and A9s)...
is there a predefined 4 - 5 solution that show up or the Viewer does some kind of work in real time and choose the combos from the same buckets always with the right %frequencies
When you press enter in MonkerViewer, the strategy switches between "sampling" and "mixing". What it shows you depends on the underlying mixed strategies. For example, if a hand is folding 50% to an open, and 3-betting 50% to an open, then it should alternate between folding and re-raising when you hit enter. That way, on average, it is recommending you the correct frequency with a mixed hand.

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Does anyone from Monkerware reply here anymore? I emailed support about a week ago and nobody has replied to me. Forgot my password and need to reset it and there’s no option to do so when trying to sign in.
Support isn't active in this thread. Support via email is inconsistent. I would recommend using a descriptive title for your email, that may help in getting a response.

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Any way to pause a sim without having it revert back to an unsolved state?

Just paused one with 5 I/N and came back to restart it, now it's at 0 I/N again.
In the 'Threads' field, you need to click on the pause icon to pause and resume your solving. If you press play, your sim will restart.

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Old 08-08-2020, 11:38 AM   #1379
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Does anyone know how to fix this gibberish?
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Old 08-14-2020, 04:16 AM   #1380
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I have 11gb RAM available on my laptop, but Monker is saying in the abstraction that I’m using 2.9/3.5 gb. I saw an earlier post from someone who said they fixed this by resetting their java settings, but when I tried to do this java said I only had 32k megabytes available. Any idea what’s going on here/how to fix it?
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Old 08-14-2020, 12:34 PM   #1381
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I have 11gb RAM available on my laptop, but Monker is saying in the abstraction that I’m using 2.9/3.5 gb. I saw an earlier post from someone who said they fixed this by resetting their java settings, but when I tried to do this java said I only had 32k megabytes available. Any idea what’s going on here/how to fix it?
On Windows, you need to edit a file called "MonkerSolver.l4j.ini" in your Monkersolver directory. The '-Xmx' value determines the amount of RAM addressible by Monkersolver. Save the file, and restart Monkersolver for the changes to apply. In the abstraction tab, you should now see the number to the right of the slash increased.
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Old 08-14-2020, 09:03 PM   #1382
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I have a bunch of ranges in GTO+, is there anyway I can make them viewable in monkerview? I tried copying the newdefs3.txt file into the area where it scans for ranges and it didn't find it.
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Old 08-14-2020, 10:35 PM   #1383
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Hi

I would like to do some preflop sims for app games but i'm unsure what the best input is in terms of rake. For example the rake is 5% capped at 3bb but i receive 70% rake back... how will this effect my input into the rake section?

Thanks in advance
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Old 08-15-2020, 12:46 PM   #1384
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Hello guys, recently I've bought some Monker ranges and I want to use Monkerviewer to View them.

The file that contains my ranges is in the same directory as Monkerviewer is:
C:\Program Files\MonkerViewer\ranges\Hold'em\6-way\Zoom50_100bb

but when I log in the server to view them,I go to the local tab and nothing shows.


If I put all the .rng files into the '6-way' folder directly, I got this and ranges in black.


I've upgraded my Java as it was mentioned earlier but the problem remains!
Any advice on how to solve this???
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Old 08-16-2020, 01:38 PM   #1385
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probably these have been asked already, but i couldn't find the answers..

1)how much ram will i need to reasonably caclculate 6max plo preflop ranges? for example, for holdem and simple preflop, i'd say 128gb would be sufficient to calculate with a very high precision preflop without coldcalls other than from the button or with all coldcalls with a decent precison

2)how many licenses does it come with? can i use it both on my laptop and a server?

3)i've heard monker is not supported any more(and i haven't got any response from their support email) - is that true?

4)i also heard there was some major bug a year or a couple years ago that made all 3+ players calcs prior to that useless. any comments on that?
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Old 08-19-2020, 12:21 AM   #1386
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Hi, I got 2 questions are puzzling me, hope someone could save me:
1. does any one know about the Monker .rng file name rule? How I can match file name to the positions and actions?


2. How could I know the exact percentage of raising or calling for the mix preflop range strategy?

Thanks
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Old 08-21-2020, 10:53 AM   #1387
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Hi

I would like to do some preflop sims for app games but i'm unsure what the best input is in terms of rake. For example the rake is 5% capped at 3bb but i receive 70% rake back... how will this effect my input into the rake section?

Thanks in advance
In that case, set rake to 1.5%, and the rake cap to 0.9bb.

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Hello guys, recently I've bought some Monker ranges and I want to use Monkerviewer to View them.

The file that contains my ranges is in the same directory as Monkerviewer is:
C:\Program Files\MonkerViewer\ranges\Hold'em\6-way\Zoom50_100bb

but when I log in the server to view them,I go to the local tab and nothing shows.


If I put all the .rng files into the '6-way' folder directly, I got this and ranges in black.


I've upgraded my Java as it was mentioned earlier but the problem remains!
Any advice on how to solve this???
Remove the underscore from "Zoom50_100bb".

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probably these have been asked already, but i couldn't find the answers..

1)how much ram will i need to reasonably caclculate 6max plo preflop ranges? for example, for holdem and simple preflop, i'd say 128gb would be sufficient to calculate with a very high precision preflop without coldcalls other than from the button or with all coldcalls with a decent precison

2)how many licenses does it come with? can i use it both on my laptop and a server?

3)i've heard monker is not supported any more(and i haven't got any response from their support email) - is that true?

4)i also heard there was some major bug a year or a couple years ago that made all 3+ players calcs prior to that useless. any comments on that?
1) It makes a very large difference in tree size if you are calculating with our without cold-calls. For very high precision, and with all cold-calls, you are looking at over 512 GB RAM. If you are willing to sacrifice cold-calls, the tree can be solved under 256 GB RAM.

2) Yes.

3) Support is sporadic, but I wouldn't call it abandoned. The last update to the software was October 12, 2019.

4) There was a bug that was addressed on the 28th of September, 2019, that affected some game trees with 4 or more players.
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Old 08-22-2020, 05:04 PM   #1388
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4) There was a bug that was addressed on the 28th of September, 2019, that affected some game trees with 4 or more players.
Sir, could you elaborate on said bug. are preflop trees compromised?
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Old 08-24-2020, 03:38 PM   #1389
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Is there a way to set Monkersolver so that it only creates options that would be chosen at 25% or higher?

By that I mean often times Monker picks 10-15 hands that are only played <10% for a certain action and it would be great if they could get merged for simplification, even if it costs a marginal amount of ev.
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Old 08-25-2020, 05:02 PM   #1390
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Does anyone from Monkerware reply here anymore? I emailed support about a week ago and nobody has replied to me. Forgot my password and need to reset it and there’s no option to do so when trying to sign in.
I dont think, that somebody will reply you here from Monker. The guys in the monker discord group told to someone, that 2weeks reply time via email is standard...

So I wish you luck with that!
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Old 08-25-2020, 08:50 PM   #1391
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Hi, can someone explain to me why the EV of these hands are higher than the EV of the players in the pot?



For instance, some hands have nearly 60k EV (mchip). Yet BTN and BB EV is roughly 7.4k EV (mchip).

Very confused. I inputted the stacks as 1 chip per 1 small blind. Solved for postflop.

Thanks!

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Old 08-28-2020, 11:21 AM   #1392
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Sir, could you elaborate on said bug. are preflop trees compromised?
I can't tell you more than what I wrote. I wasn't able to detect the bug myself. Considering when the bug was discovered, I imagine few people were aware of it.

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Is there a way to set Monkersolver so that it only creates options that would be chosen at 25% or higher?

By that I mean often times Monker picks 10-15 hands that are only played <10% for a certain action and it would be great if they could get merged for simplification, even if it costs a marginal amount of ev.
I don't think that's feasible for the MonkerSolver algorithm.

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Hi, can someone explain to me why the EV of these hands are higher than the EV of the players in the pot?



For instance, some hands have nearly 60k EV (mchip). Yet BTN and BB EV is roughly 7.4k EV (mchip).

Very confused. I inputted the stacks as 1 chip per 1 small blind. Solved for postflop.

Thanks!
I'm not sure there is enough information from the screenshot you shared. If the EV of folding from the player you are showing is negative, that means that there has already been some betting that has occurred, and now the pot is larger than the pot at the start of the street. In that case it would be normal to see individual hands with higher EVs than the cumulative EV from every hand on that street.
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Old 08-28-2020, 01:28 PM   #1393
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^ ah that makes a lot of sense that after EV would be higher since more bets are being put in post street.

But I am confused about this. Why is BTN EV negative of -144 mchip and BB EV is positive 144mchip.

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Old 08-29-2020, 09:09 AM   #1394
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^ ah that makes a lot of sense that after EV would be higher since more bets are being put in post street.

But I am confused about this. Why is BTN EV negative of -144 mchip and BB EV is positive 144mchip.

Because you are playing a zero-sum game. Somebody's wins are another one's losses.
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Old 08-29-2020, 04:55 PM   #1395
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Because you are playing a zero-sum game. Somebody's wins are another one's losses.
I meant why would BTN EV be negative and BB EV positive. BTN is forced to put in less (as small blind) and has position. Shouldn't BB be the one with negative EV mchip here?
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Old 08-30-2020, 05:40 PM   #1396
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I meant why would BTN EV be negative and BB EV positive. BTN is forced to put in less (as small blind) and has position. Shouldn't BB be the one with negative EV mchip here?
You are correct in general that in a well designed heads up tree the BTN should not have negative EV. It's quite possible here that something is wrong in the tree causing the BTN to lose massive amounts of EV.
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Old 08-31-2020, 06:46 PM   #1397
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What's up with the equity graph btn?? Is it not reliable or am I missing something? Here is the spot multiway utg open utg1 call bb sqz kk45:ddxx Flop AA3dd bb cbet small utg jams utg1 folds, now monker says to call which seems odd getting 2 to 1(the ev is also off if you Manuel do ev cal with its presumed equity v pot size, it gives -5bb to call but if your 2to1 and have 37% it's obv a +ev call after u bet). When we click equity graph btn to see what it feels it equity is with kk54dd v the shoving range it says 37%. Thats obv not correct by just eyeballing the shoving range as it's mostly just Ax and 33, when I put monkers complete jamming range v kk54 into odds orcale I get 23.5% which feels more accurate.

What am I missing here? Thanks for any insight

Is it just because multiway somehow fudges it or this one sim itself is wonky,
When I test it in hu spot the equity graph has been accurate

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Old 09-04-2020, 01:29 AM   #1398
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Just talking about monker viewer here ... how do you get the local tab to show up... I am trying to open some rng files using the viewer and have been unsuccessful. Here is path to range folder that I created .....

C:\Program Files\MonkerViewer\Ranges\Hold'em\6-way\100bb (\ 0.0.0.0.rng)
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Old 09-04-2020, 03:35 AM   #1399
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Just talking about monker viewer here ... how do you get the local tab to show up... I am trying to open some rng files using the viewer and have been unsuccessful. Here is path to range folder that I created .....

C:\Program Files\MonkerViewer\Ranges\Hold'em\6-way\100bb (\ 0.0.0.0.rng)
solved this shortly after posting -- missed the edit !
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Old 09-04-2020, 08:06 AM   #1400
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What's up with the equity graph btn?? Is it not reliable or am I missing something? Here is the spot multiway utg open utg1 call bb sqz kk45:ddxx Flop AA3dd bb cbet small utg jams utg1 folds, now monker says to call which seems odd getting 2 to 1(the ev is also off if you Manuel do ev cal with its presumed equity v pot size, it gives -5bb to call but if your 2to1 and have 37% it's obv a +ev call after u bet). When we click equity graph btn to see what it feels it equity is with kk54dd v the shoving range it says 37%. Thats obv not correct by just eyeballing the shoving range as it's mostly just Ax and 33, when I put monkers complete jamming range v kk54 into odds orcale I get 23.5% which feels more accurate.

What am I missing here? Thanks for any insight

Is it just because multiway somehow fudges it or this one sim itself is wonky,
When I test it in hu spot the equity graph has been accurate
How are you inputting Monker's range into PPTOO? Are you manually entering the range? If so, your weighting may be different than that of Monker.
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