Ok... answered. But I'm PMing again because I thought your question was about the converter.

New version of the catcher up - 2.05.9
http://acepokersolutions.com/poker-s..._v2.05.9.9.exe

1. Fixed issue when PT4 recognized all S&G tournaments as tournament #1, that caused an issue where you can see old data in HUD.
2. Fixed issue when BCC recreated HH file without data with previous hands during HM2 import, so start table time was incorrect and this issue could mess up hands in HM2
3. Extended trial to 7 days

I've been testing this version the last couple of days, as has others. No errors anywhere. No dropped hands. Looks solid.

Hi FD, I've been having this problem as well. I've been working with the PT4 admins on their forum and not really getting anywhere. Maybe you can help with this issue that TD-74 mention above that I'm trying to accomplish as well:

I basic want to tag MTTs hands as I'm playing live for "review" using BCC/PT4 and then go back after downloading the HH from Bovada to review them in PT4 replayer with cards exposed for all players.

The problem is that when I try to import that HH that I download from Bovada into PT4, all of them are see as duplicates (even tho the live imported HH don't show exposed hands like the downloaded ones do).

Are you guys able to make some adjustments on your software side where PT4 wouldn't see the live import hands and the download hands as duplicates? Or maybe some function where the download HH ones merge with the live HH ones so that the expose hands show up in PT4 replayer?

Thanks

Thanks FD for the update, I'll give it a try next week once the 12 days of turbos are over.

Do you know off hand If the issue with the HUDs not resizing with the table size was fixed from v2.05.7 that I mention a few weeks ago? I can find out the hard way next week if not

Thanks again and happy holidays to you and the team!

does this work the same with pt3?

No, just PT4 and HM2. I know a couple of people who got it to work w/ PT3, but I honestly don't know how.

So I have been testing BBC after taking a long break and since I've upgraded my RAM to 8GB of Crucial Ballistix memory, I'm still getting massive delays w/ my PT NoteTracker which is based on HH's imported. Got a response back from PT and this is the convo...

The only difference I see w/ the new RAM is that instead of taking 20 hands for the notes to show up, it takes about 15 for a single note to be displayed. After this point, it still takes about 3-5 hands for the last note to be displayed. So if I play a hand, for the notes from that hand to be displayed, I have to wait about 5 hands for those notes to be displayed. I know I have a ton of notes but I figured that the upgrade would help immensely but to my surprise, there's almost no change in how they all show at once instead of 1 by 1 and also in the amount of time it takes for new notes to be displayed. How long does it normally take for the latest note to be displayed? Do you have any suggestions on how I can improve the NT's performance?

I don't have metrics for comparison but that does sound a bit long to me, and your machine should be fine. What version of PostgreSQL are you using?

I'm running version 9.3.

You're not playing fast fold poker are you? (Zoom, Rush, etc.)
For those games the hands do not import immediately when you fold (because they can't import until the hand completes for all players) so there would be a delay before you start seeing notes.

If this is for normal tables, how many tables do you play at once? What site(s) do you play? Cash or tournament?

I only play reg. speed 6 max cash on Bovada. I 4 table normally but this happens 1 tabling as well.

Bovada is not a supported site so it's possible that there is a minor problem with the converted hand histories which causes some delays in NoteTracker, but PT4 will not be changed for issues related to non-genuine hand histories.

Does it matter if it's changed the HH format from PS to iPoker? Can you suggest anything that might be the issue so I can let the developer know of possible changes that might be needed? I've been giving him feedback for months while the software is getting the bugs worked out. I appreciate your help.

I don't know what might be wrong, I'm afraid. If the hands are exactly the same as the target format then they should work OK, but I couldn't speculate on what type of differences might cause problems.

So this whole time, I thought the culprit was my system and the lack of RAM but now it looks like that's not the issue.


After testing BCC last night for 7 hours, it seems to pick up every hand, I didn't see any errors. I'm not certain if 100% of all hands were imported though b/c I was testing some other things before and BBC was off for a period at the start. Comparing total hands from the client to imported hands would not tell me anything for that reason but it seems to be working really well. Well done FD, I'll report back w/ full totals my next session.

My understanding of how note tracker works in PT is that once a hand is imported, it's broken up into data chunks because PT places it's hands into it's own format (in comparison w/ HM who uses stores the original hand and then parses the data after). So if the data is importing, then PT should be putting it into it's own format and making notes from that. So it should have nothing to do w/ the original hand format as long as their no errors w/ the data going in. If he's free I'll try and confirm this w/ Derrik of PT next week.

Are you sure there aren't errors in how you're setting up the logic of your notes? I don't have anyone else that's brought up issues around this, and I use this exact setup myself as well w/o issue on the notes. I'm guessing there's some other setting on there that you're missing. Maybe a threshold of when a note is written, but really hard to say.

So I did some more testing for a few hours, 4 tabling and I have about 70-80 more hands imported than I played. Looks like even if you sit out on all 4, hands are imported while being sat out so I couldn't tell if any hands were missed. I'll try testing one table w/ no breaks for as long as I can to see if hands are being missed.

Can you explain your exact setup? I'm not sure what you mean.

As far as my note logic, I'm sure there are some that weren't created properly as I have thousands of notes made. I'm not sure how that affects how 10 notes are being displayed at once instead of one by one. If you could share your settings w/ me for PT, I'd appreciate it. I know my system resources aren't the culprit now since the upgrade.

Funny thing, in the last 2 sessions, hands are now taking about 10 hands to show the first note. For the longest time, it was closer to twenty. I haven't touched any settings but it takes a lot less time for notes to be displayed.

I'm just using the default notes. Well, I added a couple of my own. But everything else is pretty standard.

I'm not sure how response people are going to be heading into the holiday break here. When I hear back on anything from PT though I'll let you know. I'm just curious if there's some threshold setting for when it decides to write a note.

Thanks, I appreciate it. Yeah, I did some digging in the settings but couldn't find anything. Just got some suggestions from PT and I'm going to try it soon.

You can create two separate databases - one for BCC hands and one for the ones you download from Bovada. At least that works with HM2

I'm referring to the hands that went to showdown, not the ones that were mucked preflop or before the showdown. That info is immediately available from the hand history file when I click to review the hand that just happened. However my HUD only displays the board and the hand that won but not the loosing hand.

I've downloaded the updated version but did not get extension of a trial, how can I get that?

Thanks

A big problem I'm having with the latest version (2.05.9) is that MTT's are being caught and labeled as "Tournament" in the table finder on HM2, this is causing stats from all MTT's to be put into the same hud instead of remaining separate. Using Holdem Indicator until another solution is found. Love the program otherwise, though.

You're not understanding. Yes, this information is available in the replayer or hand on Bovada after it's played. However, just like normal poker and other sites, this info is not available in the data being displayed in real time based on the config settings the user has selected. You don't always have to show your hand at showdown at poker. The same rules apply. You will sometimes not see these hands. If the other player wins at SD, then you'll see the hand always.

If you're never seeing any, then it may be a setting on your hud to not show them. But otherwise, you should see these sometimes.

There's no way to extend a trial unfortunately.

Hey freak sent you a PM about the catcher.

Strange, I'll have to look into this more. No one has mentioned this which is odd. I do see what you're saying though, and not sure why this wasn't flagged. It looks like if you go to settings on the catcher, and switch to PS mode it will work fine. So this is a temp work around. If you have an alias set, then it won't matter the format it's using. I'm talking w/ the developer though. It looks like HM2 needs a slightly different heading for the MTT hands now.

Seems like everything is working fine. HUD just won't show up.

You are dragging and dropping the cross hairs onto the table? You need to do that w/ HM2, and not with PT.

Correct. I'm trying to use HEM2. And dragging and dropping the crosshairs to no avail. Doesn't matter how many times I try it. HUD doesn't show up.

Just finished 1 tabling for 8 hours straight, no breaks to see if any hands were missed. My profits match my client balance but PT has imported 4 more hands than the client says I played, how does that happen? I took no breaks to make sure the hand total is right but surprisingly it shows more hands than the client HH total, not less. I played 1 table just so the hand total could be tracked perfectly in case I got sat out. I don't get it... I even went through my PT "view import status" to check for any errors in red and found none. Not sure what to make of this. How can PT count more hands than the client total when I haven't missed a single hand in 8 hours? The profits are on point to the nearest cent and that's nice but how is the hand count more on PT than the client. So confused. Either way, nice job on the update... at least I don't see any line errors but it looks like I still have to keep manual records until this is resolved. Will continue testing while 1 tabling a few more times either way before I play multiple tables.

Hey I am having a problem seeing my reports after downloading the histories. I can see all the hands in the replayer when I go to the "opponents" tab but I cannot get the graphs from it.

What I'm trying to get clear on is you were using PT before correct? Or you've always been using HM2 w/ the catcher? Because there's a manual setting you'd have to change if you've used PT, even if you downloaded the latest and installed.

Did you add Hero (ipoker) as your alias in HM?

How are you counting your hands on the client side? Observed hands could add a few more hands, but it shouldn't show as hero's hands. So I don't know. I'm not sure how you're comparing these.

Are you talking about hands from the converter? Not sure what you mean downloaded. What database are you using? Do you have your target hero player configured?