I know the developer looked at it a while back. I'll have to touch base with him and find out what's going on. He was sick last week, so I don't have a current status, but I will find out. I meant that some of the bovada tournaments don't put results. We don't know why. So it's a sorting out process of know which are and which don't because they also add some different formats from time to time. I'll let you know as soon as I hear word.

Bought it recently, this software is really good.

I have added all my tournaments and Im super pleased with the results. Also, gonna buy cash converter soon too.

Even on MTTs which is all I play now. Minor manual changes to Total buy when playing satellites. It confuses Total Buy-in with the ticket prize money. Also it adds a few times the Winnings of these satties I play. Anyways, super pleased with the program and gonna buy the cash one as soon as I start playing the tables.

Cool, thanks for the feedback. If you want to send in one of the original hands that you think is getting confused, we'll look at it. Just e-mail the unconverted hand to support and those guys will examine it for you.

I tried doing this and it did not work...

not sure how exactly to elaborate more but I think possibly the problem is that when I'm importing through PT4, the software is recognizing all the old hands as duplicates and therefore not importing the new hands that now should show all cards?? Any other ideas?

Thanks again for the help...really appreciate it

FreakDaddy, your PM box is full. I have the HH text you asked for earlier today

You'll need to purge the old hands then or create a new database and re-import them. Those are the only two options really at that point

Ok, thanks. I have it now any ways (found it), so I'll let you know exactly what I find.

When I converted the hands I had the PT3/4 box checked, import zone as zoom checked, and randomize player ID checked. Are these the correct settings to get the hands to convert correctly? I then moved these imported hands into PT4. When I did this I got results for stakes I have never played before and results that didn't make sense (specifically very large losses over a time period where i won).

Also, when I open the hand converter I get a message saying the current version of HM2 I am using has decided to block known hole cards. I get this message even though I changed the settings in the converter to convert to PT3/4. Is the software somehow picking HM2 as my default database and converting the hands for HM2 even though I am picking PT3/4? I still have both HM2 and PT4 on my computer. Do i need to move HM2 off my computer to get the hands to convert correctly?

Thanks again for the help.

So like I said, out of that 14.1k sample, 3 errors. All 3 of them the exact same thing. Bovada isn't writing the whole HH because the blind retracted it's post.

This is the original hand. I should probably just have the converter skip these so there's no confusion, but there were zero errors in your 14.1k sample.

Bovada Hand #2905331148 TBL#8765544 HOLDEM No Limit - 2014-08-11 00:31:32
Seat 2: Dealer ($17.69 in chips)
Seat 5: Big Blind [ME] ($31.84 in chips)
Dealer : Set dealer/Bring in spot [2]
Dealer : Seat sit out
Dealer : Seat stand
Dealer : Table leave user
Table enter user
Seat sit down
Table deposit $24.90
*** SUMMARY ***

The image link won't post here for some reason. No idea why. Probably 2+2 banning me from linking anything. lol

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CONVERSION

Freak im running holdem manger 2, recently purchased the converter software. I have a macbook pro with parrells. Having trouble converting hands.

I just reimported those converted files into a new database to double check. Imported 13559 hands, 605 errors. 602 errors were "Invalid pot size for hand #xxxxx" 3 were "unexpected end of hand history." Those are the 3 you cited as errors.

This is on PT4 4.12 and the converter version at the time should have been 1.0.35.

I just grabbed a couple of the original hand numbers out of the 602 that had the errors and here is the text from those 2. I looked through a few of the others as well and they all look similar. All seem to be when the flop is not seen.

Bovada Hand #2899781752 TBL#8724886 HOLDEM No Limit - 2014-07-31 02:40:42
Seat 1: Big Blind ($25 in chips)
Seat 2: UTG ($26.38 in chips)
Seat 3: UTG+1 ($28.35 in chips)
Seat 4: UTG+2 ($56.09 in chips)
Seat 5: UTG+3 [ME] ($25.35 in chips)
Seat 6: UTG+4 ($23.98 in chips)
Seat 7: UTG+5 ($37.07 in chips)
Seat 8: Dealer ($50.94 in chips)
Seat 9: Small Blind ($15.08 in chips)
Dealer : Set dealer/Bring in spot [8]
Small Blind : Ante/Small Blind $0.10
Big Blind : Big blind/Bring in $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Big Blind : Card dealt to a spot [3d Ac]
UTG : Card dealt to a spot [Jh Ad]
UTG+1 : Card dealt to a spot [Tc 5d]
UTG+2 : Card dealt to a spot [Qs 3s]
UTG+3 [ME] : Card dealt to a spot [3c 7d]
UTG+4 : Card dealt to a spot [Th Ks]
UTG+5 : Card dealt to a spot [6s 2c]
Dealer : Card dealt to a spot [Ts 5s]
Small Blind : Card dealt to a spot [6d 3h]
UTG : Folds
UTG+1 : Folds
UTG+2 : Folds
UTG+3 [ME] : Folds
UTG+4 : Folds
UTG+5 : Folds
Dealer : Folds
Small Blind : Folds
Big Blind : Does not show [3d Ac] (High Card)
Big Blind : Hand result $0.35
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($0.35)
Seat+1: Big Blind $0.35 [Does not show]
Seat+2: UTG Folded before the FLOP
Seat+3: UTG+1 Folded before the FLOP
Seat+4: UTG+2 Folded before the FLOP
Seat+5: UTG+3 Folded before the FLOP
Seat+6: UTG+4 Folded before the FLOP
Seat+7: UTG+5 Folded before the FLOP
Seat+8: Dealer Folded before the FLOP
Seat+9: Small Blind Folded before the FBovada Hand #2899783814 TBL#8724886 HOLDEM No Limit - 2014-07-31 02:46:26
Seat 1: UTG+2 ($25 in chips)
Seat 2: UTG+3 ($30.27 in chips)
Seat 3: UTG+4 ($24.04 in chips)
Seat 4: UTG+5 ($55.74 in chips)
Seat 5: Dealer [ME] ($24.85 in chips)
Seat 6: Small Blind ($24.60 in chips)
Seat 7: Big Blind ($37.07 in chips)
Seat 8: UTG ($50.69 in chips)
Seat 9: UTG+1 ($15.33 in chips)
Dealer [ME] : Set dealer/Bring in spot [5]
Small Blind : Ante/Small Blind $0.10
Big Blind : Big blind/Bring in $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
UTG+2 : Card dealt to a spot [8s Kc]
UTG+3 : Card dealt to a spot [5c 6c]
UTG+4 : Card dealt to a spot [6s Kh]
UTG+5 : Card dealt to a spot [4d 6d]
Dealer [ME] : Card dealt to a spot [2c Jh]
Small Blind : Card dealt to a spot [3c 4c]
Big Blind : Card dealt to a spot [Jd 7c]
UTG : Card dealt to a spot [Td 3h]
UTG+1 : Card dealt to a spot [Qd Tc]
UTG : Folds
UTG+1 : Folds
UTG+2 : Folds
UTG+3 : Folds
UTG+4 : Folds
UTG+5 : Folds
Dealer [ME] : Folds
Small Blind : Folds
Big Blind : Does not show [Jd 7c] (High Card)
Big Blind : Hand result $0.35
Dealer [ME] : Table deposit $0.15
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($0.35)
Seat+1: UTG+2 Folded before the FLOP
Seat+2: UTG+3 Folded before the FLOP
Seat+3: UTG+4 Folded before the FLOP
Seat+4: UTG+5 Folded before the FLOP
Seat+5: Dealer Folded before the FLOP
Seat+6: Small Blind Folded before the FLOP
Seat+7: Big Blind $0.35 [Does not show]
Seat+8: UTG Folded before the FLOP
Seat+9: UTG+1 Folded before the FLOP

FYI, I used PT v 4.11. If you could see my screenshot, you'd see all of them went in fine except those 3 we expect to fail. I took these new ones above with the same setup and they imported fine. Are you 100% sure you're on the latest version of the converter? I'll try later today with PT 4.2, but I'm not getting any errors.

I am thinking of purchasing the HH convertor to get the hands that I miss from the Card Catcher HUD.

My question is, will that cause duplicate hands in my database or is PT4 smart enough to realize that they are duplicates?

Yes, it will cause duplicates. I'd advise importing as a different hero name in the same database, and then you should be ok.

This started when I posted this back in Sept:

I had just updated both the converter and PT to those versions and ran the hands. I think dark_horse suggested to roll back to 4.10 , but I don't have a copy. I'll try reconverting those hands and importing into 4.12 again.

Ok, FreakDaddy, I figured it out. Sort of. I have always used the HEM setting and imported those into PT4 with no issue since there was a time when PT4 hid the hole cards and using the HEM format worked. I guess once either PT4 got to 4.11 or the converter got to 1.0.35, the format between the PT4 and HEM are different enough to cause problems. So this time, I switched the setting back to PT4 with "enable known hole cards" and things are better.

This time, my settings are: PT 3 or 4 (true), Import zone as zoom(true), Randomize PlayerId(true), Enable known hole cards(true).

I do still get more than those three end of hand errors, but not many. I had 16 invalid pot size errors this time. Instead of just invalid pot size, PT reports "Invalid pot size (0.35 vs pot:0.10 rake:0.00 jpt:0.00 for hand...." on those. These all appear to be hands that were folded preflop, BB got a walk, and someone showed their cards. The converter shows .25 returned to the BB and a total pot of .1 or these.

There is a line in all of those like "Big Blind : Showdown(High Card)" where as in a "normal hand" it will say "does not show." If you want to check out a few of them, some hand numbers are: #2916443696, #2919042646, #2919480668

Sorry for the initial confusion, let me know if I can do anything else.

thanks

will try this and let you know how it goes

Yeah, I was just about to ask you this. So in that same sample you sent, you had those errors with those hands? Because I still only got those 3 errors. I didn't get any invalid pot size, and I don't have anyone reporting anything like that either. And believe me, I would.

Yes, in that same sample, I saw those invalid size errors. Different wording for the error though and only a few of them. Also seemed to be hands where the BB walked and showed his cards.

This is on PT 4.12 this time though.

I tried on the latest version also and it was the same result. Just those 3 errors. So I wonder what's going on, or if you're still importing some of those old hands somehow. I'm having the developer look at it after the holiday break regardless. It's just odd that I'm not getting the same result you are.

Yeah, that is odd, but it us a very small number of hands and a specific scenario, so I am not too concerned with it. It was the large number I had earlier that was a concern and that is sorted.

I am glad to help troubleshoot though, so let me know what I can do. I have been testing on that original set of hands I sent. I ran them through the converter again to get the last result, but I can always do it again.

Just FYI. I imported another 17k hands and had 37 errors. 35 of them were this same BB walk and showing issue.

Ok, thanks. Send me some of the last ones. It's just odd that no one is having this problem, and no on here can re-produce even with the hands you send. But you never know.

Done

I also have noticed a few hands here or there that have gotten the invalid pot size error. It just started happening maybe a couple of months ago, it wasn't too many so I just ignored them until this recent discussion. I finally took a look at a couple of these hands and can confirm the error COKE_MAN is describing. BB gets a walk and shows his/her cards.

PT4 v4.12.1
Converter v1.0.31

Set for PT3/4, Enable Known Hole Cards (on), Randomize Player ID (on)