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Originally Posted by Harambee
Trying to study a spot where SB limps and hero is in the BB and am trying to work out what range we can profitably shove vs a SB complete. However, I'm getting really weird results.
For example:
-20BB eff.
- SB open-limps 15% of hands
- SB limp/calls the top of his range (1/3 of the time)
- SB limp/folds the bottom of his range (2/3 of the time)
It says we can only profitably shove JJ+, AKo
If I now let SB min-raise, giving him the EXACT same range where he raise/calls and raise/folds at the exact same frequency, we can profitably shove 38% of hands.
I know there is an extra BB out there, but the range vs a SB complete seems so incredibly tight. Am I missing something?
Hey Harambee
Let me explain how ICMIZER handles situations where someone limps and we're on BB.
We can either PUSH or CHECK. This is a unique situation compared to everything else what can you calculate in ICMIZER, where the second option is always FOLD. So when we try to estimate EV realization postflop of the check we do a simple calculation and distribute the preflop pot according to hand strength of BB vs limp range of SB (or another limper).
For many hands, the EV of check calculated this way turns out to be better than shoving. It doesn't mean that we fold them of course. If you believe you have a different EV realization you can play with the min diff filter and figure out a shoving range that makes more sense to you.
Hope this helps. ICMIZER is a preflop calculator so when we run into situations that do not have a preflop all-in we are really limited with good options since post-flop equity calculations are extremely hard to do and depend on a huge number of factors.