ICMIZER 2 update v2.7.1

• Added highly anticipated support for PokerStars Beat the Clock Tournaments to ICMIZER and SNG Coach

Both 48 man & 27 man are supported

Our coaching is starting in two hours (21 CET) and will be available for everyone here:
https://www.twitch.tv/pokerstrategydotcom

Unfortunately i missed this video; can we have a link to view the video after the fact or to download it?

Do you guys plan to implement an ability to weigh hands in the future?

Watched your twitch coaching, two questions - as far as I understood even with the progKO update it is still not possible to calculate KO situations early on in the tournament, pre ITM etc.? I get that there are other factors (such as covering other stacks and having a future bounty equity) that are harder to convert into chip amount but can you explain what's the value of a starting bounty in chips? As far as I can see there are two opinions - 100$ progKO mtt 50$ go to bounty and you can win half of that (25$) if you knock out a player, starting stack 10k so value of the bounty is a)you buy starting stack for half of your BI and full bounty is worth another full starting stack and when you try to knock someone out you should add 5k chips cause you can win half of their bounty, b)you bought in for 100$ and got 10k in chips so if you get 25% of the buyin in your account when knocking someone out, then it is worth 25% of the starting stack a.k.a. 2500 chips.

Just like this like on this betting site.

http://pasteboard.co/9125b440-a39c-4...3-a0bfd7671d3c

https://gyazo.com/0ffa16a36455597ed6a8e0a46dc92d85

get this msg when I try to open/DL icm2, i tried using opera/chrome/explorer but nothing works ? brah ?

Hi.
Try using FireFox, its our recommended browser now.

Opera is Chrome this days (completely same engine).

Hi. Yes, we plan to add this. It is requested by customers so its scheduled for late winter-early spring.

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Hi. Video should be available soon!

Hi,
Almost every time i start icmizer i ned to enter my un and pw , twice.
I do it once and then it tells me theres a new version and i need to restart, and then it asks for un and pw again, i check the remember box but it doesnt remember.

I emailed support like a while ago and they fixed my problem(i donk remember how) but its back now.
thank you

Hi Pop

Please refer to this guide:
http://support.icmpoker.com/topics/7...ess-clipboard/

I believe it should fix the issue.
Please let me know if it doesn't work for you.
Kind regards,
Valentin

Hi,
it didnt work for me

awesome news! look foward to it

Hi. Can you please contact me via support@icmpoker.com and attach the screenshot of that tab where application storage settings can be seen?

Hello Q,
Piosolver versus Icmizer 2?
i have used Icmizer1 a bit in the past year or two and am a bit familar with it more than Pio. But for 6max sng's mostly, tell me why i should buy one over the other?
looking forward to your sales pitch!

thanks
Rambo911

Hi well, to make a decision you need to understand what the products do.
PioSolver and ICMIZER comparison is strange, why not HM or pokerstove?
ICMIZER focuses on preflop all-ins and provides ICM calculations and FGS calculations with up to 6 depth. I believe its not the focus of PioSolver which focuses on postflop equilibrium and deeper stacks. Also the pricing is completely different for our products, so I am not sure why you wish to compare the tools. If you need improvements in tournaments push fold at late stage ICMIZER will definately be a good pick.

I just noticed that you have added $5 90 man pko to the mttsng section. Does this feature work when calculating situations pre ft using the chip ev method? You mentioned before that you could only calculate pko situations at fts.

Hi. PKOs are only supported for final tables. It doesn't make any sense to review them in Chip EV.

Ok thanks. Can you explain how you came up with the Ft calculations. I watched the twitch stream with Colin Moshman and it seems a little unclear and surprising in some spots where Colin thought we could call much wider in certain spots when we could win a sizeable bounty .

Yep, we ran into some surprising results during the webinar.
I am preparing an article about PKO math, I've checked everything and it appears that there is a lot of counterintuitive math going on in PKOs and all of the results during the coaching were correct, the article will help with that, and probably I'll record another video about them too since PKOs are surprisingly hard to understand.

That would be great thanks

Have just been exploring the PKO features in ICMizer and was also getting some surprising results. For example, in cEV, I was checking the calling ranges of BB vs a BTN shove ~12bbs with different bounties. Even giving BTN a ridiculously large bounty (300BI at early-mid stage) we were getting some super tight ranges (when we should be able to call super profitably ATC).

Does cEV mode calculate what's in the PKO box as $ and then convert it to chips for use in the calculation? When I did this manually and changed all of the bounties into chip values in that box, then it was appearing with ranges that seemed more realistic?

Obv, you are saying that there is quite a lot of counter-intuitive maths going on but gambling for such huge bounties makes perfect sense to me?

Hi Corpsey

Chip EV calculations in PKOs currently do not work as they should, PKOs can only be analyzed using ICM $ or % models. Chip EV mode should produce results in chips, making the results the same for any tournament. Right now in PKO tournaments it's not working as it should and it produces results which are different from other tournaments in chip EV mode. By its definition Chip EV mode scraps away any tournament information and should produce the same results as calculations for cash games. We are preparing the update to fix this behavior, it should be available next week.

Please only review PKOs in ICM % or $ Ev mode to use our IKCM model for PKO tournaments.