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10-08-2014 , 06:10 AM
Hey, its a little difficult to explain without showing.
Please check out this video after 9~th minute:

http://www.icmpoker.com/en/video/icm...ator-tutorial/

I explain where each range goes etc.
If you have questions after watching it, please let me know.
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10-08-2014 , 08:28 AM
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Hey TheRider.

Now thats a million dollar question. ICMIZER is pretty cheap software at less than 10$ per month. Compared to that price professional players are definately getting much more value out of it than beginners, and that value comes from their skills of using it.

With more experience, skill and understanding of your table you will be able to adjust ranges accordingly, to take into account every possible bit of information available, and to get the results which are the most precise to the actual situation.

It can take a long time to master assignment of ranges. Nash equilibrium is a great spot to start. Observing your opponents is another important area of knowledge. If nash says they should call with K8o, but when they actually call they always show up with KTo, you know that you should adjust ranges and make them tighter.

Generally the more hands you review and the more you play poker and spend time with ICMIZER the better your range assignment skills will become. I believe you can get some coaching and ask coach this kind of question, like how do I assign ranges to my opponents. But it will be costly. I am not aware of some amazing materials which can help in this area.

You are doing a great job by reading articles and watching videos. A lot of players assume that just buying ICMIZER will improve their game. I have to admit, you got work with it in order to get maximum value out of it and to work efficiently you need to understand the tool and the problem.

It's actually a great feeling ask a question worth million dollars

I think I got your point. Thanks again.

TheRider
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10-09-2014 , 06:07 AM
Am i right in saying that for each overcall range that is for the original raiser pushing AND every player to act before them? Eg Hero is CO, we assign the button calling range, we assign the SB's over calling range, is the BB's over calling range of the CO and HJ (2 playera), or CO, HJ and SB (3 players)? Hope you understand. Thanks.
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10-09-2014 , 10:42 AM
L3goH3ad, I'll try to answer clearly but on my own example.

Lets say we are 4 way, CO pushes, 3 players left to act.
When BTN calls, 2 players remain and both SB and BB can OC, so there are 2 OC ranges to edit.
When BTN folds, SB can call, and then BB can OC, so there is 1 OC range to edit in this branch of tree.

We can't assign a 4th overcall of overcall range in ICMIZER, so when in first case, CO pushes, BTN calls, and SB overcalls, ICMIZER will assume that BB auto-folds all hands. This assumption allows us to avoid insanely slow calculations of 4 way all-ins, ignore insane amount of additional ranges (OOC ranges after all OC ranges) to edit and correspond to reality—generally 4 way all-ins happen extremely rarely, and the probability of such outcome is extremely low.

All OC ranges are exclusive, so if 1 OC happens, all other OCs automatically don't happen.

I hope it answers your question, if not please elaborate on what is left out. I understand that its pretty complex topic but I am still trying to come up with the best way to answer this kind of questions.
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10-09-2014 , 06:00 PM
Thanks for explaining that, i think you've done a great job! Will let you know if i have any further problems!
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10-10-2014 , 05:17 AM
What would you say is a reasonable edge to input when deciding on a calling range?
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10-11-2014 , 08:05 PM
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What would you say is a reasonable edge to input when deciding on a calling range?
If we`re talking about cEV for me personally depends on stack sizes, the more big blinds im risking i want a bigger edge to compensate, the shorter i am the more flexible i can be. in $EV mode for me depends on my ROI expectation i guess but also stack sizes. In both scenarios we have to considered future EV too, meaning if i have a solid edge vs the remaining of the field i would want a bigger edge too.
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10-11-2014 , 08:06 PM
Q...Can you tell me the sites supported by ICMIzer at the moment?
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10-11-2014 , 08:11 PM
Hey onlinepokerwiz

The full list is here:
http://www.icmpoker.com/en/purchase/

It is: PokerStars, Full Tilt, PartyPoker, Merge, Ongame, IPoker, 888 Pacific, Microgaming, Winamax, Revolution
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10-11-2014 , 08:15 PM
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What would you say is a reasonable edge to input when deciding on a calling range?
Another big question. I recommend to start with 0% in ICM mode.
This value depends on the structure you play, on the tournament phase and on a lot of other factors.

Remember that when you call there is ~50% chance that tournament is over for you if opponent has you covered. If you try this chance too early you may never have a chance to beat the rake.

You can observe the EV of each individual hand and figure out which are worth throwing away and which are absolute must calls.

You can ask this in STT subforum (or what type of games you are playing) here on 2+2 and probably you can get more detailed answers. This queston lies outside of direct ICMIZER support and is more about general poker coaching.
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10-11-2014 , 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Q
Hey onlinepokerwiz

The full list is here:
http://www.icmpoker.com/en/purchase/

It is: PokerStars, Full Tilt, PartyPoker, Merge, Ongame, IPoker, 888 Pacific, Microgaming, Winamax, Revolution
The reason why im asking is because im having issues loading a hh from a tournament i recently played on a IPoker skin (William Hill), FWIW is not a txt file is a xml one
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10-11-2014 , 09:46 PM
Please send me the history to support@icmpoker.com and I'll investigate the issue and fix it asap.
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10-15-2014 , 02:25 PM
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I'll give ETA for this update after ICMIZER 2.0 update is complete. Right now I don't want any speculations or broken expectations.
News?
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10-18-2014 , 12:38 AM
Hey nahh12.

We are in the finishing phase.
I plan to make a detailed public announcement with more details about the release in November.

Last edited by Q; 10-18-2014 at 12:56 AM.
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10-28-2014 , 12:04 PM
Hi,

can´t seem to manually type in stack sizes on the webpage calculator. I can erase but 'im not able to type in any numbers...any ideas? using google chrome.

Thanks
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10-29-2014 , 07:56 AM
Does ICMizer takes into account a blockers effect:

For example when you want to find a squueze range and there is an MP open, BTN flat

And you are in the SB and it tells you that QJo is b.e.:
Is this b.e. considering that villains still call w/ the same range or does it actually take into account that I have a Q and J s.t. their OC range is in reality not 6% but like 5% or so, and also that their opening range is slightly less wider since they have less broadways to open with. I.e. does it provide a reduced calling range/ or opening based on our shoving range
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10-29-2014 , 09:44 PM
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Hi,

can´t seem to manually type in stack sizes on the webpage calculator. I can erase but 'im not able to type in any numbers...any ideas? using google chrome.

Thanks
Hey. By "webpage calculator" do you mean ICMIZER or ICM calculator?
If you are on mac, try Safari.
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10-29-2014 , 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by robwa
Does ICMizer takes into account a blockers effect:

For example when you want to find a squueze range and there is an MP open, BTN flat

And you are in the SB and it tells you that QJo is b.e.:
Is this b.e. considering that villains still call w/ the same range or does it actually take into account that I have a Q and J s.t. their OC range is in reality not 6% but like 5% or so, and also that their opening range is slightly less wider since they have less broadways to open with. I.e. does it provide a reduced calling range/ or opening based on our shoving range
Yes, ICMIZER does take complex card removal effects for calculations.
You can hit XX detailed result button and find respective call probabilities to see how the actual calculation works.

You can also see that EV fold for various hero hands is different, this is due to fact that we use hero hand for calculations of probabilities of opponents going all-in against each other.
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10-29-2014 , 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Q
Hey. By "webpage calculator" do you mean ICMIZER or ICM calculator?
If you are on mac, try Safari.
Hi,

i was refering to ICMIZER. Safari works, thanks!
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10-30-2014 , 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Prim
Hi,

i was refering to ICMIZER. Safari works, thanks!
Great, Silverlight plugin is not supported on Mac on Chrome officially, but it is on Safari.
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11-02-2014 , 10:55 AM
Any chance of introducing a dark background theme?
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11-02-2014 , 12:35 PM
I am not sure about dark background, I'll think about it depending on several factors.
We are preparing a complete redesign of ICMIZER look for ICMIZER 2 though.

It will be more eye-friendly (darker background) among other things!
Let's see what you will say about planned ICMIZER 2 look. Maybe darker background won't be needed
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11-05-2014 , 09:42 PM
Hi! Is there a possibility to copy hand details from UniversalReplayer to ICMIZER?
I tried to export "Current hand" by all export types possible on UniversalReplayer but ICMIZER does not recognize it.
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11-05-2014 , 11:15 PM
Hi, no thats not possible right now.
Stay tuned for upcoming ICMIZER 2 update though, something might be done about it right there.
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11-06-2014 , 05:23 AM
Hi guys, considering investing in this excellent tool. Quick question, do I pay a full years subscription up front or does it go out every month in smaller increments. Thanks in advance.
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