Ty for that fast answer. When should ICMIZER 2 come out?

You are welcome.
The release date is always difficult to name, I want the release to be great so its been seriously delayed already. Initially I planned to have it this Summer, but apparently this isn't happening, but even with this delay it can't be too long till its complete now.

How does this feature work, could you explain please?

Besides I have a question for calculating EV in 180s. One has top check the "MTT" box, plus fill in "remaining players", right? If one is not at the FT.

Iam asking because I thought this spot (http://www.icmpoker.com/icmizer/#XWef) was clearly +EV. In fact it was +0.00 (given the ranges in this example).

Btw, ICMizer is great. Next update will be huge -_-.

Hey about drag and drop ranges - you can just drag a range on some other range to copy it.

I cover this in this video: http://www.icmpoker.com/en/video/icm...u-should-know/

As for your 180 spot, everything is set up correctly, except the calling ranges are a little to wide vs hero.
If you try to play as BB vs your shoving range for example, you can see that suggested +EV range for BB is much tighter than in your link:

http://www.icmpoker.com/icmizer/#pFwW

Once you edit ranges accordingly, A9 will be a clear +EV shove I believe.

Thanks for help.

Yes it becomes +EV when editing the ranges.

quick question:

is it possible to buy the annual subscription and pay via stars client?

C.Br0wn Unfortunately we cannot accept pokerstars transfer and the only available payment options are the ones which you can find at the website: paypal, credit card and amazon.

Note that you can ask your friend to buy ICMIZER access key for you, and you will send him the funds on pokerstars. I know some customers are using this option. Purchased keys are absolutely transfereable, and subscriptions are not recurring currently.

Sorry for this inconvenience.

Generally pokerstars prohibits software vendors to sell by PS transfer method.
So most who do are doing this by breaking PS tos.

didnt know it is against the ToS... makes sense tho!

thank u for the quick replys

Im not going to bother u with a aprox date of release for ICMizer 2 but i do would like to know about a couple of feature that are already in place and will differentiate ICMizer 2 from 1, cheers.

Hey onlinepokerwiz

I will make a public a announcement with screenshots and descriptions of some of new features before the release, but right now I am not ready to share any information yet.

EDIT: Nevermind, found the key in my spam folder LDO

the situation is :
step3 sng on pokerstars ,3 players left , top2 paid about 32% , place 3rd paid12% .
blinds t300/t600/t50
BTN t7050 min raise (46%hands) ,will call reshove with 30%hands
hero SB with t2811 with pair six
BB t3639
no one is fish here.
what should hero do ?

I run this situation on icmizer and sngwizard , the results are very different !
icmizer says hero can profitably reshove any two card , but sngwizard says only reshove KK，maybe QQ.

how to explain this result ? or is it my fault to not use icmizer correctly？

Hi.

I've ran this calculation according to your data and assigned appropriate ranges to other players, and the specified ranges to BTN

Here is what I am getting: http://www.icmpoker.com/icmizer/#nBoZ

So 66 is slightly +EV shove

I got payout right 2x 32% + 12 equals 76 so 24% are already distributed?

I am not responsible for what wiz produces but you can rest assured that ICMIZER calculates everything correctly as long as you plug in the data right (ranges are important for all players).

If you aren't sure how to plug ranges please check this video: http://www.icmpoker.com/en/video/icm...ator-tutorial/

Let me know if you need further questions.

hi

just saw your new 24min video with your 5 hands.

i was hoping you explain the following, which i forgot numerious times since i have a memory like a sieve -.-

several players, like 7
ep open. then 1 mp-call. then i push from the button for example

as icmizer cant calculate 4 way allins, i dont know if the blinds-actions affect the utg (icmizer considers ep folding).
lets say the blinds fold. then it should not be a problem.

but lets say the bb goes allin too. then icmizer will ignore the ep. right?

like this http://www.icmpoker.com/icmizer/#eiCS

this whole scenario i cant get into my drug-head :-( i had these scenarios lately a lot , where i had the chance to squeeze-allin vs an openraise + a flatcall. But did not know if any blinds action affect utg or not ?!!!

can u plz explain this in a video or a blog entry: if this is not too much to ask for.
your examples in your video were really str8 forward. and imo everyone knows that already.
ty

Hey bbfreak. Yep examples are very straightforward but you may be giving others a lot of credit. Maybe you know that already and thats great for you, but I get NUMEROUS questions and there are lot of new threads popping up in SNG subforum here where people ask questions about some easy hands year after year. So I think a lot of people actually don't know.

I will investigate your scenario and will let you know what I think. Thanks for watching a video. It is not a 200$ coaching per hour video, I just show to new users how to input a hand into ICMIZER, thats the face value of the video, not some insightful secret poker strategy, although I've gotten some comments that those exact hands did help someone fix an existing leak, which is great.

hi

ty so far. looking forward to it

somehow i get really desperated. i should know the functions after using it over 1 year now oO
but somehow i question everything. maybe i never understood icmizer. maybe thats why i run so bad, always used it wrongly and got wrong results by that. and adjusted my push/fold by that wtf

http://www.icmpoker.com/icmizer/#iqVG

i am in a bit shock now. i tell you how i think it works. this should help others too

i refer to main ranges now: only 2 player allins are possible, right?

Here are 2 columns: left and right side:

left side:
CO limps 23%, i push. THEN either SB calls 12% OR BB calls 17%. OR CO limpcalls.
NO 3 player allins here on the left side.

So its not like: Co limps. i push. SB push and CO overalls: bc thats for the overcall ranges column, right? As this is a 3 player allin

right side of main ranges: where hero folds obviously.
So CO limps, SB pushes 8% and CO calls 13%. OR BB pushes 9.2% and CO calls 13% . again no 3 player allin.


So right column now. (overalls ranges): thats for 3 player allins (no 4 player allins possible) i hope.

Left and right side again:

left side:

i am totally clueless as in my previous post ?!!!

CO limps. I push. If sb pushes now and BB overcalls. The CO gets ignored?!! bc thats already 4 players now. I want to analyze: co limps. I push , then any blind call, then give the CO an overcall range.


Right side: without hero i think

CO limps. Hero folds !, sb pushes! BB call 17%. CO overall 11%. 3way: easy


in my previous post there were no overcall ranges, as this was chipEV.
the overcall-possibility was included!? which somehow confuses me now



this is no trolling around, i want to understand this now, wanna work more on my game.
Ty for your understanding^^

bbfreak, I'll try to answer what I gathered

1) in my previous post there were no overcall ranges, as this was chipEV.

In Chip EV mode EV fold is independant of other player actions. So there are less ranges required, and overcall ranges tab disappears. In ICM mode a lot of ranges are required to correctly evaluate how our equity will change after we fold and some players potentially bust, improving our tournament EV

2) 4 way all-ins are not considered in ICMIZER. There are already a lot of ranges to edit. And as you know usually if people are reasonably short stacked but not too short, 4 way all-ins are rare.

In some cases though if there is an ante auto all-in player for example, or everyone has 2 blinds, 4 way all-in becomes a more realistic possibility. In those spots you are on your own, and ICMIZER may provide more problems, by assuming that there is some kind of FE which in reality isn't there.

When ICMIZER performs a calculation once 3rd player is all-in, other players all fold and their OC ranges are ignored. If CO pushes, BTN calls and SB calls, and BB has 1.5 BB, ICMIZER will assume that he folds 100% of time. This will add some dead money to the pot and can seriously affect results.

3) In your description I think you are correct with ranges. I fail to see what you don't understand, are you questioning everything? In that case it appears that you understand ICMIZER. If you could narrow down things which you aren't sure about I could probably help more.

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left side:

i am totally clueless as in my previous post ?!!!

CO limps. I push. If sb pushes now and BB overcalls. The CO gets ignored?!! bc thats already 4 players now. I want to analyze: co limps. I push , then any blind call, then give the CO an overcall range.

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ty idk . this is my main concern. icm- overcall ranges. in my qjs example

forget the ranges in this example . this is just random.
i dont understand the exact actions. yes once 3 players are allin then its clear, that others are ignored
but with a limper? then my push, and then the blinds come. and then still the limper
i dont like that with 1 limper. i push. then both blinds push. then the limper is ignored :-( idk how to analyze the qjs

i go to bed now, ty so far.

If there is a limper, then you push, and then you get calls from SB and BB then limper folds automatically and adds his auto-folded chips to sweeten the pot as dead money as far as calculation goes.

thank you very much for your reply !
I set wrong calling range for the dealer , it's my fault!

ok then i seem to understand it. main ranges are only for 2 player allins.
this would have been ridic if i had been using it over 1 year wrongly oO
so everything i wrote looks correct?
the really only thing which bothers me are the overall section

http://www.icmpoker.com/icmizer/#iqVG

CO limps. hero pushes. sb pushes. and now it looks like i cant make the bb to fold. bc i wanna give the CO a callrange now.
icm wise lets say i had a bigger stack, then its way more important what the CO does , than the bb. but looks like this is not possible.

ofc to be safe i can put the CO to the BU seat. i am SB instead of BU. SB is BB. and i put the BB in utg. but idk this is necessary ?!

so again idk how icmizer does handle this. co limp. bu push. sb push.
bc only 3way allin is possible: does he either calculate the BB overall or the CO limp-overcall?

i am really confused now . i must be a pain for u :-(

generally i ask a lot, and want to know everything. by nature. + the talent to annoy people

Hey no problem bbfreak

It would be easier for me to answer better if you put the actual question in bold but ill try myself

bc only 3way allin is possible: does he either calculate the BB overall or the CO limp-overcall?

yes, after 2 players go allin there are only 3 potential outcomes from ICMIZER pov:

BB OC, CO fold
BB fold, CO OC
or BB and CO fold.

So the BB OC CO OOC? outcome is treated as if it has zero probability.

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