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02-02-2021 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Q
Hi EspressoShot,
Currently, PartyPoker doesn't store information about bounties in their hand history format so ICMIZER cannot guess it or know it for you, so it has to be entered manually. PokerStars on the other hand does have that data in their hand history files, so ICMIZER can pick that up automatically.

You're welcome to send them an email and request storing bounties in their hand history format, this would be a welcome change by many players.
ok thanks. that is what i thought, made sense once i had a closer look at the hand histories.

i will send them an email now, i cant imagine that would be hard for them to implement considering i will now play bounty tournaments on other sites only,

i can play on GGpoker, pokerStars or 888 poker, can you please confirm the list of popular poker sites that have the correct format for bounty MTTs to use with ICmizer?
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02-02-2021 , 05:55 PM
everyone that is playing on partypoker here, please send them an email requesting to include the bounty in hand histories.

More chance of a quick fix if they have many customers making the request as have to play bounty on pokerstars till the change is made.
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02-03-2021 , 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by EspressoShot
ok thanks. that is what i thought, made sense once i had a closer look at the hand histories.

i will send them an email now, i cant imagine that would be hard for them to implement considering i will now play bounty tournaments on other sites only,

i can play on GGpoker, pokerStars or 888 poker, can you please confirm the list of popular poker sites that have the correct format for bounty MTTs to use with ICmizer?
Hi EspressoShot,

As far as we know, at the moment only PokerStars stores information about bounties in their hand history format. We would be glad to add bounty support for any room which decides to store that information in their hand history files.
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02-10-2021 , 03:46 AM
When i compare results of icmizer 3 and hrc in fgs i get different results as soon as i start saying the blinds go up after xx hands. The results are for maybe 90-95% the same but still a pretty big gap. Is this a common problem? Do both of these programs calculate it in different ways?

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If i do fgs 3 and then the blinds go up after 2 hands. Will each 2 hands then go the blind up or only the first blindlevel up for 2 hands and then the rest of the sng not up anymore. I think hrc will use the latter with only up 1 time and icmizer maybe does this every 2 hands then?
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02-11-2021 , 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by LuukV
When i compare results of icmizer 3 and hrc in fgs i get different results as soon as i start saying the blinds go up after xx hands. The results are for maybe 90-95% the same but still a pretty big gap. Is this a common problem? Do both of these programs calculate it in different ways?

Edit:

If i do fgs 3 and then the blinds go up after 2 hands. Will each 2 hands then go the blind up or only the first blindlevel up for 2 hands and then the rest of the sng not up anymore. I think hrc will use the latter with only up 1 time and icmizer maybe does this every 2 hands then?
Hi LuukV,

In ICMIZER, you can set up the blinds growing in the "FGS Advanced Settings" menu:



For doing that, open the "FGS Advanced Settings" menu, turn on the "Take into account future increase of blinds" option, and open the "Blinds will go up" setting.



For FGS3, there are three available options: next hand (this setting is using by default), hand after next hand, and after 2 hands. You are welcome to use any of these.
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02-21-2021 , 09:33 PM
Is there a way to show the % of hands for a solution? Simple example: 10BB SB vs BB, SB shoves say 55% of hands, but I don't see a quick way to know this %.
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02-22-2021 , 09:43 AM
Hello, icmizer seems super slow at times for me, literary taking minutes on FGS2 for single table calculations. I'm usually the patient type but this is getting frustrating.
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02-22-2021 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by chisness
Is there a way to show the % of hands for a solution? Simple example: 10BB SB vs BB, SB shoves say 55% of hands, but I don't see a quick way to know this %.
Hi chisness,

Could you please clarify what you mean by a quick way to know this %?

Do you mean this?

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02-22-2021 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by rusrs
Hello, icmizer seems super slow at times for me, literary taking minutes on FGS2 for single table calculations. I'm usually the patient type but this is getting frustrating.
Hi rusrs,

I'm sorry to hear that you are having problems with the ICMIZER performance speed.

We will investigate this and let you know as soon as we figure out anything new regarding this issue.

Sorry for the inconvenience.
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02-22-2021 , 07:03 PM
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Hi chisness,

Could you please clarify what you mean by a quick way to know this %?

Do you mean this?

Yes! Thanks. You got there by clicking EDIT, right?
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02-23-2021 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by chisness
Yes! Thanks. You got there by clicking EDIT, right?
Right. To open the range editor of the player, click on his pushing range with the right mouse button. Also, you can open the editor by clicking on the range with the left mouse button and clicking on the Edit button then.
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03-25-2021 , 12:31 AM
Hey there,

I never really used the "detailed result" tab but I was trying to work out the $EV of our stack and just wanted to confirm that this in fact is the $EV of our stack.

The scenario I created was that we max late reg, and everyone else has avg stack. We are UTG.



Then we run a sim and then hit detailed result:



Is the EVFold the current $EV of our stack???
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03-26-2021 , 06:58 AM
Hi Harambee,

The EvFold is not quite the current EV of the player's stack. In the EV Flow chart, there are "EV preflop" and "EV next hand" raws:



The "EV preflop" is a "dry" EV at the moment of the hand's beginning without considering the player's position. So, talking about the "current EV", the "EV next hand" is closer to that term, and it takes into account the players' actions in the current hand. The current hero's EV includes both the EvPush and the EvFold, considering their probabilities.
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03-26-2021 , 05:20 PM
Can we see those values in the EV flow section as ICM$EV as opposed to ICM%EV?
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03-28-2021 , 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by g3r4rd0x
Hello im having problems with pko calculations, i watched the video in youtube channel but still.
This spot is when late reg is still open, so this would be cev pko?



How do i calculate this spot? Since i dont know the price payout yet? Thanks
Going back to this, it would be v useful if we could have a 'chip ev pko' calc. Just taking into account the bounties on the current table and no other tables, i.e. not using mtt mode. So we can see how calling a shove differs in a pko to a vanilla mtt. With no consideration of the other tables in the tournament, Just pure chip ev plus the shovers bounty and no other considerations.

Thanks
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03-28-2021 , 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Mystic
Going back to this, it would be v useful if we could have a 'chip ev pko' calc. Just taking into account the bounties on the current table and no other tables, i.e. not using mtt mode. So we can see how calling a shove differs in a pko to a vanilla mtt. With no consideration of the other tables in the tournament, Just pure chip ev plus the shovers bounty and no other considerations.

Thanks
For the above, I'm thinking would just need to enter what the starting stack and starting bounty is, and this would work well
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03-29-2021 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Harambee
Can we see those values in the EV flow section as ICM$EV as opposed to ICM%EV?
The ICM %EV figures in that chart are the percentage from the whole tournament prizepool. You are welcome to get those values in ICM $EV by multiplying the ICM %EV percentage by the tournament prizepool.
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04-03-2021 , 06:47 AM
Can you please tell me how to add a tourny type to my favourites tab.
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04-05-2021 , 09:32 PM
Can you please increase the number of remaining players in MTT mode from 500 to maybe 1000?
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04-06-2021 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by balls'n'all
Can you please tell me how to add a tourny type to my favourites tab.
Hi balls'n'all,

The Favorites tab is automatically assembled from your most-used tournament structures. So, at the moment, you can't add a tournament type to the Favorites tab manually.
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04-06-2021 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Harambee
Can you please increase the number of remaining players in MTT mode from 500 to maybe 1000?
Hi Harambee,

Thank you for your request.

I’ll pass your feature request to the product team so that they can consider this moving forward and weigh it against our current product roadmap.
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04-06-2021 , 07:18 PM
Did you retire the ICMIZER 2 interface option?
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04-07-2021 , 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Lupin III
Did you retire the ICMIZER 2 interface option?
Hi Lupin III,

Yes, in ICMIZER 3.14.4 update, more than 1.5 years after the release date of the new ICMIZER 3, we disabled the ICMIZER 2 interface support.

ICMIZER 2 was launched in September 2015. After almost four years of very intense work, the highly anticipated update – ICMIZER 3 – was finally released and ready to help our users get to the next poker level. We supported the ICMIZER 2 interface for such a long time to make our users get used to the new ICMIZER 3 interface and its features gradually. At the moment, very few people who bought ICMIZER 3 subscription still use the ICMIZER 2 interface. Also, it doesn't have all the great ICMIZER 3 features such as:
  • Nash equilibrium solutions with mixed strategies based on the new precise CFR+ algorithm for all situations, including complex situations with one or two preflop raisers;
  • advanced auto-analyze settings;
  • the new range editor;
  • nash ranges with locked strategies;
  • non-final table calculations for PKO tournaments, and many others.

We never stop working on ICMIZER 3, and every day we try to make it even better. So we want to be sure that our users are using one of the most relevant and best products of the poker market.
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04-20-2021 , 05:47 PM
Hello, could you clarify this spot that I'm trying to understand?
This is a $15 18p tournament turbo, 4 prize pools. There's 3 peole, two short stacks and I am the CL. I'm in BB with 38bbs and villain is in BT with 2.6bb. He shoves, and I have to pay 1.6bb. I'm always calling any2 here, but I decided to see what ICIMIZER would say.
1) When I run with no FGS, it gives villain 12% and hero 91% calling range.
2) When I run FGS1, it gives villain 31% and hero 100% calling range.
3) See what happens when I run with FGS5:


This is insane. 29% shove for villain and 21% calling range for hero.

This sounds extremely wrong for me. I thought that ICM FGS would always be the best approach to study ICM spots. Could you clarify?

Thanks!!

Last edited by Kopko; 04-20-2021 at 05:55 PM.
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04-23-2021 , 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Kopko
Hello, could you clarify this spot that I'm trying to understand?
This is a $15 18p tournament turbo, 4 prize pools. There's 3 peole, two short stacks and I am the CL. I'm in BB with 38bbs and villain is in BT with 2.6bb. He shoves, and I have to pay 1.6bb. I'm always calling any2 here, but I decided to see what ICIMIZER would say.
1) When I run with no FGS, it gives villain 12% and hero 91% calling range.
2) When I run FGS1, it gives villain 31% and hero 100% calling range.
3) See what happens when I run with FGS5:

This is insane. 29% shove for villain and 21% calling range for hero.

This sounds extremely wrong for me. I thought that ICM FGS would always be the best approach to study ICM spots. Could you clarify?

Thanks!!
Hi Kopko,

This hand is exactly the case that shows the FGS advantages and how the FGS works.

ICMIZER is looking five hands ahead and advising us to fold most hands because it's more profitable to let blinds dry opponents' stacks and have them even shorter stacks than they have at the moment, up to 1-2 BBs. In that case, the Hero's best strategy is trying to prolong the 3-max stage as long as possible and maximize their chances to win the tournament in the heads-up stage with a weakened opponent. We fold to the BTN's push and then push in the next hand, making opponents fold because they don't want to be knocked out in the third place and let the other player take the second place. By this, we put pressure on the middle stack, which can do nothing to counter this strategy except for folding.

Yes, folding almost 80% of hands looks counterintuitive. It is different from the calculation you would get using the ICM or the Chip EV model, but it is the most effective strategy nonetheless if we look five hands ahead.
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