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02-27-2024 , 05:20 PM
I just bought a month and am concerned by the outputs that ICMIZER is giving me. For a standard 20BB SB rejam versus BTN open it's saying I can reshove any two cards. But the concerning part is the edge value it is giving me for different hands. In the provided example below pocket 22 is 0.00 edge but pocket AA is only 0.02 edge. I've used your product before and this just seems wrong to me.

https://www.icmizer.com/icmizerapp/#EStvDZ

This is an MTT hand early enough in the tournament that it should be close to chip EV. I selected a similar tournament from the list and filled out the MTT Mode information.

Last edited by stinbag; 02-27-2024 at 05:26 PM.
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02-28-2024 , 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by stinbag
I just bought a month and am concerned by the outputs that ICMIZER is giving me. For a standard 20BB SB rejam versus BTN open it's saying I can reshove any two cards. But the concerning part is the edge value it is giving me for different hands. In the provided example below pocket 22 is 0.00 edge but pocket AA is only 0.02 edge. I've used your product before and this just seems wrong to me.

https://www.icmizer.com/icmizerapp/#EStvDZ

This is an MTT hand early enough in the tournament that it should be close to chip EV. I selected a similar tournament from the list and filled out the MTT Mode information.
Hey stinbag,

I am not sure what exactly was entered that led to 100% reshove range, I entered your raising range for BTN and locked it and kept everything else unlocked.
Here is the result I got:
https://www.icmizer.com/screenshot/IqHoGd/
The range makes much more sense now.

In order to end up with 100% reshove range you usually need to limit the calling frequency of the raiser so they simply don't call enough.

Note that regarding 0.00% EV - with 900 players remaining it is hard to gain much in a given hand because we are talking about % of the total prize pool.
For MTTs I generally recommend using ICM $EV mode. In $EV mode you can see how much $ your gaining or missing and it can be easily compared to the tournament which in turn makes choosing the right threshold easier.
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05-15-2024 , 01:40 PM
Best ways to use ICMizer?

Currently I run my completed one-table tournaments through ICMizer Auto Hand Analysis (making sure to select the correct tournament type) and get feedback on push/fold decisions. I also use MTT coach to train those same structures. It's all helpful and I've learned a lot, but I'm not feeling grounded in my progress. Perhaps because I don't have a good foundation in ChipEV push/fold decisions to adjust from?

Do you recommend spending time learning ChipEV push/fold decisions first? Any recommended resources? Short-stack Push/Fold charts starting on page 206 of Modern Poker Theory are helpful, but only cover 10BB or less.

Has anyone worked on a regression model for ChipEV or ICM EV decisions? The inputs could be positions and stack sizes and the output could be push %. Simple cases (single raise from EP with stack X vs hero on BB with stack Y, etc) seem they might bear fruit.

All thoughts appreciated, thanks.

Fortuitous
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