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11-12-2021 , 10:13 AM
For hands calculated in the standard "Math" engine, you can see the Nash distance as "Exploit%" in the Outline area.

For calculations using the Monte Carlo mode this isn't available.
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11-12-2021 , 08:09 PM
I have never used a solver and just have free(though very good) GTO charts. I an now using HRC and the new postflop engine to replicate what solvers do. I am clueless on how to properly set-up spots.

Spot: 25bb facing a RFI

My free GTO charts have what to 3B/3BJ/C (3B for both value and bluffs)
The problem is when Hero is not the effective stack, so say a stack set-up like this -

Villain RFI on 25bb, Hero 45bb, 15bb, 22bb, 5bb 75bb

My charts know how to react when all have 25bb. If I want to run this to show me how to react on 45bb vs a 25bb should I run the sim like this - 25bb RFI: 45bb 45bb 45bb 45bb 45bb? So creating equal stacks behind, just as the GTO charts do for 25bb...
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11-13-2021 , 03:10 AM
If you are happy with your existing charts and want to replicate them, then setting everyone else to 45bb looks like a reasonable start.

But you should be aware that the mixed stack setup in your example and the simplified version you proposed will probably have quite different results.

That's just the nature of using fixed charts or pre-calculated solutions: They won't perfectly match your actual spots. For best results you'd need to calculate with the actual stacks.

Definitely try running a few variations to see how changing the stack sizes behind affects your ranges, that way you can get an idea about the correct adjustments.
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11-22-2021 , 10:26 AM
Hello. I have a question about bounty calculations. If the prizepool is 50k total in a pko, with bounty prize pool being 25k and there are 1000 people starting. When we are down to 500 people, I see that HRC will show that there is only 12.5k left in the bounty prizepool(cant manually change the nr) but shouldnt it be 18.75k, since half of the bounty of eliminated players will still be in the prizepool on the remaining players heads?
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11-22-2021 , 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Pyha Karu
Hello. I have a question about bounty calculations. If the prizepool is 50k total in a pko, with bounty prize pool being 25k and there are 1000 people starting. When we are down to 500 people, I see that HRC will show that there is only 12.5k left in the bounty prizepool(cant manually change the nr) but shouldnt it be 18.75k, since half of the bounty of eliminated players will still be in the prizepool on the remaining players heads?
HRC will estimate the remaining bounty pool based on the average bounty on the active table and the # of remaining players. But you can override this estimation on the MTT details page by checking "Override Bounty Avg".
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11-27-2021 , 12:48 AM
I am just starting to use advanced Monte Carlo. I watched a poker coach using it and he ran the sims at 1,000m. Is this what you would recommend? How do we know when the ranges are properly sorted out? Can I easily tell if 500m was not enough? Is there documentation to help with these answers?

Any chance you can tell me what time frame my computer should be needing to take to run a 1,000m sim? I assume using Parallels slows it down. If so, any chance you could tell me by how much?

2011 iMac (she still has some life left!)
2.5 GHz Intel Core i5
Memory: 12 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
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11-27-2021 , 01:21 AM
Any plans to add visual hand description for easier reviewing.
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11-27-2021 , 04:20 AM
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Any plans to add visual hand description for easier reviewing.
Yes, we've actually written that a while back and just need to integrate it in the UI. Can't give you an ETA, but it's coming soon'ish.
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11-27-2021 , 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by asunder
I am just starting to use advanced Monte Carlo. I watched a poker coach using it and he ran the sims at 1,000m. Is this what you would recommend? How do we know when the ranges are properly sorted out? Can I easily tell if 500m was not enough? Is there documentation to help with these answers?

Any chance you can tell me what time frame my computer should be needing to take to run a 1,000m sim? I assume using Parallels slows it down. If so, any chance you could tell me by how much?

2011 iMac (she still has some life left!)
2.5 GHz Intel Core i5
Memory: 12 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
First off, we do have an OSX version and you'll probably get much better performance running the native OSX version outside Parallels. Give it a try!

I'm assuming you are talking about the beta version w/ Postflop mode. The 12GB should be ok in combination with small abstractions, you can fit some reasonable trees in there.

The sampling speed is mainly dependent on CPU, simply check multi-threaded CPU benchmark scores to get a rough idea about the relative performance. Your system is probably around factor 10x slower than a current one.

(I'll reply to the sampling question in a bit, this comes up a lot and I'll answer in a separate post.)
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11-27-2021 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by asunder
I am just starting to use advanced Monte Carlo. I watched a poker coach using it and he ran the sims at 1,000m. Is this what you would recommend? How do we know when the ranges are properly sorted out? Can I easily tell if 500m was not enough? Is there documentation to help with these answers?

As a general rule of thumb, 2,500m samples per 1GB tree size should give you a rough ballpark . Some users prefer to run less than that and then subtree sample the specific lines they are interested in, that's fine too.

The current recommendation is to:
1) Run half of the total iterations with decay 1E-6.
2) For the second half, disable decay and check "reset strategies".

How to spot if the ranges are converged?

As a bare minimum, you should not see any -EV hands in the ranges and you should not see any +EV hands being folded.

Beyond the obvious signs, how can you tell if it's fully converged?

No easy way. You can do a save and then run another 25% of total iterations with "reset strategy" checked. Once this new batch of samples is finished, load the previous save in "viewer mode" and compare the last result with the previous save. if the ranges were still moving significantly then repeat this step until they stay static between runs.
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11-27-2021 , 06:43 PM
[QUOTE=plexiq;57430039]First off, we do have an OSX version and you'll probably get much better performance running the native OSX version outside Parallels. Give it a try!

Well damn, I did not realize that. How long has that been an option?

With a current subscription, can I just download the OSX version and be good to go?
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11-27-2021 , 06:45 PM
We've always had OSX versions, ever since launch. Yes, you can use your existing license in OSX, no problem.
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11-27-2021 , 06:47 PM
Please let me know what FGS depth you recommend and whether blind increase should be on or off for these 6 max SNG spots:

6 handed
4 handed
3 handed
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11-27-2021 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by plexiq
We've always had OSX versions, ever since launch. Yes, you can use your existing license in OSX, no problem.
Well shoot, how did I miss that...? I feel rather silly, but good thing I needed Parallels for other things as well...
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11-28-2021 , 03:39 AM
Another question/suggestion(possibly very flawed).
Does HRC takes in account that registration/reentry is closed or if the tournament is freezeout while calculating MTT Mode ICM? Or is that completely irrelevant?
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12-01-2021 , 04:35 AM
We don't have that info available for the calculation, no. The calculation assumes that the entered payouts / entries are final. So ideally use your best estimate of the final pool / entries in case the registration is still open.
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12-01-2021 , 05:04 PM
Please let me know what FGS depth you recommend and whether blind increase should be on or off for these turbo 6 max SNG spots:

6 handed
4 handed
3 handed
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12-01-2021 , 05:16 PM
Apologies for missing this question earlier.

Blind increase should be off unless a blind increase is about to happen in the next 1-2 hands.

Set depth to the maximum setting that still results in acceptable runtime for you. This depends entirely on your hardware and the amount of time you are willing to wait.
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12-01-2021 , 08:56 PM
Hey Plexiq. As always, thanks for the expert and concise support offered here, we all appreciate it.


Can you offer any suggestions on what is the minimum +$EV we would ideally want in certain spots? I understand all the possible multiple variables matter, but can you just offer suggestions for spots in a vacuum? Just in general assuming everyone is playing perfect GTO ranges.

I just ran this spot in a turbo 6 max SNG where Hero wants to over-call on the bubble:

15bb jams 50%
7.5bb calls
Hero 7.5 bb can over-call JJ+ (QQ is +2.98 and JJ is only +0.04)


That is a massive difference. I would assume JJ should be folded here, or not? If so, what should the cut-off be? Call all hands at least +0.10? Or +0.25? Only call hands colored at least light green? I personally only like to jam hands that have at least +0.10 when say at 15bb non-bubble (you may or may not agree with this), but I do not have a number settled on for calling/over-calling all-ins bubble or non-bubble...

It may be that vs perfect GTO ranges (sometimes it will be only good players in the spot) we should not pass-up any +$EV spots... So actually maybe it is better to ask you for suggestions when people are not playing GTO ranges, which happens the majority of the time, as what you would recommend...
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12-02-2021 , 05:10 AM
In general, play anything >0$ unless you have specific reasons not to.

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Originally Posted by asunder
It may be that vs perfect GTO ranges (sometimes it will be only good players in the spot) we should not pass-up any +$EV spots... So actually maybe it is better to ask you for suggestions when people are not playing GTO ranges, which happens the majority of the time, as what you would recommend...
If you have specific reasons to believe that folding is relatively(!) under-valued by the equity model for a particular spot then it's fine to make adjustments for that by skipping some close hands. Skipping profitable hands just because you believe to have an edge in general is probably not a good idea.

It's important to look at the fold EV relative to the EVs of other outcomes here.

Example:

First hand of a HUSNG against some recreational player you believe to have an edge against.

Should you pass up minor +EV calls against an all-in in the first hand? Most likely, yes: If you get all-in then the game is about to end either way and there won't be any additional edge. If you fold you get to realize your edge later. The EV of folding is undervalued due to your edge, while the EV of doubling up is fixed by the prize structure and valued accurately.

Now look at the same scenario at the beginning of a large tournament. It is not clear that you should pass up any edge in the early game here. Folding may be undervalued by the equity model, but so is doubling up. If you maintain e.g. a 10% edge either way then the decision is unaffected. Maybe you actually play really well against the field with an early chip advantage, then doubling up could even be undervalued in relative terms compared to folding.

Caveat: It's quite natural to overestimate ones own edge. Skipping profitable spots can hugely backfire if you are wrong about your actual edge.
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12-04-2021 , 06:07 AM
How do I copy the calculated strategy into a notepad file? There used to be something to click, possibly"export strategies" but that seems to be disabled now. If I click copy paste from the main treeview window I just get an individual spot, not the whole thing.
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12-04-2021 , 06:53 AM
In the beta? The export is still disabled there, should be back on within the next few weeks though.

You can do a save for now and run the export once it's unlocked again.
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12-07-2021 , 06:34 PM
im habing this problem lately, im using the last version of HRCbeta
hand setup has encountered a problem:

https://gyazo.com/e8c826ae8beb47a96222d22626eb5587
https://gyazo.com/16e2da95cbf5757d23a1f35a904503e9
https://gyazo.com/e31aef1811a594a4be5fb0a5223eb32c
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12-07-2021 , 07:12 PM
Switch SB and BB, it should work then. That's an error when SB>BB.
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12-07-2021 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by plexiq
Switch SB and BB, it should work then. That's an error when SB>BB.
ahhh my bad! missed it, thanks
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