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10-18-2019 , 05:15 AM
The current beta features are ready to be released into the stable version in about two weeks. Save/load is the top priority for the next cycle, first beta testing could be available as soon as 1-2 months from now.
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10-25-2019 , 06:29 AM
Can't get HRC installed on Mac because I'm not able to install the old version of Java. I read that you can't install the old Java on Catalina. Any work around for this?
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10-25-2019 , 06:39 AM
The latest beta should work out of the box on OSX Catalina:
https://www.holdemresources.net/blog...c-public-beta/
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10-26-2019 , 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by plexiq
The latest beta should work out of the box on OSX Catalina:
https://www.holdemresources.net/blog...c-public-beta/

Thanks...I got it working.
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10-28-2019 , 10:47 PM
Hey, im trialling HRC, after being a long time ICMzer user. I have trouble importing hands.
I play mostly on WPN (ACR), and use HEM2 which then archives my hand history.

I tried both using the database import and importing the HH from the HEM2archive folder also, but just show an empty 'Import' tab with 0 hands + 0 tournaments showing.

Thanks for any help!
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10-29-2019 , 04:36 AM
WPN should work in general, but maybe there are some ACR details that break the import. Please send me a few hand histories to support@holdemresources.net and we'll get them supported asap.

(Edit: The hands in question already import fine when using the latest beta.)

Last edited by plexiq; 10-29-2019 at 04:52 AM.
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10-29-2019 , 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by plexiq
WPN should work in general, but maybe there are some ACR details that break the import. Please send me a few hand histories to support@holdemresources.net and we'll get them supported asap.

(Edit: The hands in question already import fine when using the latest beta.)
Thanks for your quick replies,

Was very helpful and everything working fine now
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10-30-2019 , 09:35 AM
When editing ranges is it possible to save/load ranges? Would save so much time!
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10-30-2019 , 09:43 AM
At the moment you can copy/paste ranges to/from a text document or a spreadsheet. This works fine for regular ranges, but does not preserve mixed strategies.

We'll add an option to save ranges within the program early in the next beta cycle.
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10-30-2019 , 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by plexiq

We'll add an option to save ranges within the program early in the next beta cycle.
Sounds cool. What's the time frame on this?
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10-30-2019 , 10:47 AM
I expect we will be releasing the current beta features to the stable in about one week and will start implementing new beta features soon after.

The next beta will start public testing in about one month, but the exact order of new features isn't decided yet so I can't give an ETA for range saving atm.
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11-04-2019 , 04:47 AM
When you for example lock an opening range and rerun sim, why does HRC say that the opener could theoretically open any two cards? (i.e. gives a +value to 100% hands).

Also, why does HRC sometimes have players say 3b jamming with 100% freq some combos but has them massively losing? For example an ICM spot when BB can 3bj 22.1% range, including Q8s with 100% frequency, but doing so with these 4 combos loses him 0.03% prize pool?

Last edited by Ist Das Crazyboi; 11-04-2019 at 05:11 AM.
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11-04-2019 , 05:09 AM
I assume you tightened the original Nash opening range and then re-calculated the other ranges? In that case what you observed is normal and expected.

Here is what happens:
1) You start with the original Nash opening range, the original EVs are calculated against the Nash calling ranges
2) When you tighten the opening range, lock and re-calculate, the calling ranges will tighten appropriately to maximize EV against this tighter opening range
3) EVs are now calculated against those tighter calling ranges and, with calling ranges being tighter than in Nash, the original raiser can profitably open additional hands

Obviously, the new calling ranges are now exploitable by changes in the locked range. But that's perfectly ok: By locking the range you explicitly told the engine that this particular range is to be treated as set in stone.

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Originally Posted by Ist Das Crazyboi
Also, why does HRC sometimes have players say 3b jamming with 100% freq some combos but has them massively losing? For example an ICM spot when BB can 3bj 22.1% range, including Q8s with 100% frequency, but doing so with these 4 combos loses him 0.03% prize pool?
When -EV hands are included in ranges, this simply means that the Nash approximation has not quite converged yet. Simply run additional iterations by using the green "Run Nash Calculation" button in the toolbar. You can see the quality of the Nash approximation in the Outline area as "Exploit%". These values should all be close to zero, in a real Nash Equilibrium they'd be exactly zero.
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11-04-2019 , 05:29 AM
Cool, thanks!
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11-04-2019 , 06:18 AM
Another question sire. Is it possible to remove some hands from a range and let the rest of a range be unlocked and calculate itself, so to speak?

E.g. say we have a jamming range and a RF and a RC range. We have 16bbs and want to jam some hands. We also don't want to jam AA and we want to RF some blocker type hands. Is this simmable? Cheers
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11-04-2019 , 06:44 AM
It's currently not possible to lock individual hands.

But you can actually do calculations where you have both a jamming range and a RF/RC range. In the Advanced Hand setup enter e.g. "2bb, all-in" as opening sizes to allow both a 2bb open and open jams. Your range will then be split up between the available sizes.

If you just want to remove some hands then create a dummy sizing, e.g. add an additional open size of 2.345bb and lock the range for that sizing to be e.g. AA only. AA is then effectively removed from the other bet sizings.
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11-04-2019 , 09:12 AM
Awesome!

Feel very dumb as I 'knew' this but it's been a while

Thanks for support ^^
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11-07-2019 , 04:08 PM
Hi,

What would be the best video tutorial to get started?

I found this one: https://www.pokerstrategy.com/video/33261/ but it seems pretty outdated.

Thanks!
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11-08-2019 , 04:32 AM
That's indeed quite a bit outdated, but the basic functionality is mostly unchanged for the current stable version.

You can find a newer getting-started tutorial here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF8kRMmryL8&

We'll be releasing a new version soon and will do "official" tutorial videos then.
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11-08-2019 , 12:43 PM
Thanks a lot for the reply.

Any approximative timeline for those official tutorials?

Thanks again!
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11-10-2019 , 09:18 AM
sorry if it was asked before, i tried last couple of pages but couldn't find.

how is the ev of flatting calculated for bounties? i assume its still equity realization for all hands 100%, but how are bounties incorporated in this?

thanks.
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11-10-2019 , 09:30 AM
@Videos: Probably in the next month or so.


@Flatting with bounties:
Any pots that are not all-in Preflop are assumed to be checked down, there is nothing special about the handling of bounties in this regard.

If some players are all-in and others are not then the pot is checked down and the bounties are awarded to the player who wins the checked down pot. If no one is all-in Preflop then no bounties are awarded.
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11-18-2019 , 02:14 PM
thanks for replay. i have one more question if you don't mind.

how are the simulations distributed in monte carlo. lets say basic open jam hand, 9max, and we run 800m simulations. are they splited in half at every node: 400m for when UTG jam and 400m when he folds. of those 400m when he folds, 200m goes for when EP1 jams and 200 for when he folds, etc...? or every player will get equal part of starting number of simulations, 100m each?

thanks.
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11-18-2019 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by petarlazovic
are they splited in half at every node: 400m for when UTG jam and 400m when he folds. of those 400m when he folds, 200m goes for when EP1 jams and 200 for when he folds, etc...?
You got the basic idea right, but the samples are played out according to the current ranges. This means spots that occur fairly often with the current strategies will also be sampled at a higher frequency.
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11-18-2019 , 05:20 PM
yep, that makes a lot of sense.
just to check if i get it right. lets say UTG open jams, and BTN gets to call/jam 15% of hands while BB gets to call 90% of hands. so, scenario UTG jams BB calls will get way more simulations than UTG jams BTN calls?
or other scenario, UTG jams 10% of hands, while when folded to BTN, BTN gets to jam 60% of hands, so way more simulations for BTN?
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