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Hey, I have a few questions.

1. I downloaded and installed the latest version of HRC, but I cannot find any new fuctionality regarding bubble factors. Where should I look exactly?
2. When I use the Monte Carlo engine, no matter how many players I specify, it's gonna always take into account card removal / card bunching effects? Why is it max. 3 players by default then?
3. Does an algorithm used in HRC outputs ~same results as Piosolver for preflop?

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02-19-2021 , 07:21 AM

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plexiq

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1) After calculating a hand, select the hand tab and then use Hand: Show Bubble Factors from the main menu bar.
2) Monte Carlo mode always takes full card removal / card bunching into account, yes. Setting the max. player limit higher will increase the tree size and generally result in worse performance and slower convergence. In most setups the lines with >3 players simply aren't played out frequently and they don't affect the overall solution much, that's why the default is 3.
3) I'm not familiar enough with Piosolver to answer that, sorry.

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02-19-2021 , 07:42 AM

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astronomad

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Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 4

By "worse performance" you mean only slower convergence? Or, even if you give HRC enough time, the results will be not that accurate somehow?

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02-19-2021 , 07:56 AM

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plexiq

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By "worse performance" I meant fewer samples per second and by "slower convergence" I meant that more samples are required overall before strategies/EVs settle.

There are no additional restrictions / simplifications introduced to handle the higher player counts. So, given enough time, accuracy isn't negatively impacted by a higher player count. It just takes more time to get there.

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02-19-2021 , 11:11 AM

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astronomad

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Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 4

Ok, thanks.

Another question: is it possible to paste a range in HRC where some hands have weight in percentages? It's easy to copy-paste such a range from one place in HRC to another. But what if I want to copy a range in HRC from somewhere else? What is the syntax I need to use for this?

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02-19-2021 , 11:40 AM

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plexiq

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For e.g. 50% of AKo you can use either AKo@50 or AKo:0.5, both are supported.

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02-19-2021 , 12:44 PM

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astronomad

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Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 4

If I upload some calculation to your database via the "Share Hand" button, how long it's gonna be available on that link?

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02-20-2021 , 12:12 PM

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Axe37

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Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 3

Hello, do you have a youtube channel or some tutorials on how to use HRC?

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02-21-2021 , 12:08 PM

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MarLeu

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Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 28

Where can I try the new feature which was added on Feb 16th:
"Added a bubble factor display at Hand: Show Bubble Factors."

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02-21-2021 , 12:34 PM

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plexiq

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Originally Posted by astronomad

If I upload some calculation to your database via the "Share Hand" button, how long it's gonna be available on that link?

It's not intended as a permanent storage, but typically hands are kept around for at least a few months. After that, hands that have not been viewed for a while are occasionally cleaned up.

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Originally Posted by Axe37

Hello, do you have a youtube channel or some tutorials on how to use HRC?

The main documentation can be found in the program at Help: Help Contents. There are also plenty of third party tutorials around on youtube, e.g.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3Wwpmk0bGk

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Originally Posted by MarLeu

Where can I try the new feature which was added on Feb 16th:
"Added a bubble factor display at Hand: Show Bubble Factors."

Make sure you have the latest update, then use Hand: Show Bubble Factors from the main menu after selecting a hand tab.

(Help: About: Installation Details should show a version number starting with 2.0.0.202102)

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02-22-2021 , 11:14 AM

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MarLeu

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Originally Posted by plexiq

Aaah yes. I get it. I just didn't find the right menu to click on. Great work :-)

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02-25-2021 , 11:11 AM

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Axe37

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Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 3

Hello, I am new to this, when creating an advance hand where there is 4bet push the software give 100% range to the OR, 3bet, 4bet and the call to the all in 78.4%.

How can I make have the OR with a standard range, does the software do this?

Thanks

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02-25-2021 , 12:09 PM

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plexiq

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^ Not entirely clear what you mean. First thing to check is to make sure that you do NOT add any actions to the last setup dialog page if you want these ranges automatically calculated. When in doubt, simply skip that last page altogether.

If that wasn't the problem then you can always manually edit/lock ranges to whatever strategy you like, simply double click the range and then edit it as needed.

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02-25-2021 , 12:45 PM

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Axe37

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Hi Prexiq, THANKS BRO,

I dont do the Prune Game tree and the problem is solved. I have a 2nd issue, it says the hands I should call the 4bet with and the % that I should play it but it doesnt say how many BB I will win calling with that hand. I dont know what cause this change.

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02-25-2021 , 01:22 PM

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plexiq

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Right click the hand grid, then select "Display EVs".

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03-11-2021 , 03:54 AM

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Efte

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Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 39

Hey guys!

I have just downloaded HRC and I need it for a very specific reason.
Basically I am playing fulldeck poker but with a shortdeck blind-structure.

That means that it's pretty common that 4 people limp and I wanna figure out if we can simulate that with hrc somehow - i have only found solutions for 1 limper and a raiser, is there a way to increase the number of limpers?

Thanks in advance

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03-11-2021 , 05:11 AM

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LektorAJ

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What do you mean by a shortdeck blind structure? The blinds and the number of cards in use are not related (as you seem to know if you're playing full deck with a blind structure other people often use for shortdeck.).

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03-11-2021 , 09:29 AM

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plexiq

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Originally Posted by Efte

You can enable two limpers, on top of the big blind player who is also allowed to check. Select both checkboxes in the first line of the betting setup to enable two limps.

Not sure how useful the results are going to be with the current version though, assuming a check-down Postflop is probably not what you want there.

Fwiw, we are already doing closed testing for the new Postflop calculations and expect to have a public beta within a week or so.

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03-11-2021 , 12:04 PM

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Efte

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I would like to know how much EV my jam has when more than 2 people limp with ranges plugged in by me and calling-ranges plugged in by me.

so f.e. 5 people limp, i am on the button with my range and wanna know how much ev a jam has

So more than two limpers is not possible?
(i am not interested in postflop EV because i have other solves for that but they don't help me with preflop jams because the ranges they use are not really realistic)

what i mean by shortdeck structure is that everybody pays ante and the bb is as big as the ante and is paid by another player

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03-11-2021 , 12:22 PM

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plexiq

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Ah, got it.

That's not possible to setup with the current UI, the calculation itself wouldn't be a problem. We may be able to get that option into the new version though, we are working on that UI anyway.

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03-12-2021 , 03:28 AM

#823

Efte

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If that's possible, I would buy a subscription

Thanks for the info

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03-12-2021 , 01:19 PM

#824

Islander636

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Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 43

Plexiq,

Hey, I read the whole thread from the beginning and I hoped to see some link to an official tutorial by the end of it. Few years have passed, and there still not any official tutorial. I understood that your team is small, but might be you could find a few hour to record one? Is there a place on internet where I can find comprehensive tutorial about plots? Pokestrategy videos are outdated and hard to watch without mouse pointer tbh. I love HRC, but it's kinda hard for new users to figure out how to use it correctly, and third party tutorials often don't help at all, because I don't play MTTs and most of them aim at MTTs players.

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03-12-2021 , 02:04 PM

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plexiq

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Fair point, yes.

I'll do a tutorial/intro video for the new beta and if you guys can tolerate the german accent we can add more basic videos later.

In any case, we'll get the documentation up to date and will likely add a discord for support. I'm aware it's a bit hard to get started right now. Fortunately we've got more manpower for development now, hopefully we'll catch up with that part soon.

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