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05-25-2010 , 01:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eeeark1
Hjalper not working for me.

I get an error message that says:

"Unhandled exception has occurred in your application"..."The type initializer for (strange sybols) threw an exception."

I can click deatails which gives me some long complex explanation (?)
or continue which will let me see the preferences window. though hjalper still doesn't work
or quit which of course ends the program.

any help would be appreciated.
Can you PM me screenshot please?
05-25-2010 , 02:59 AM
Well don't I feel stupid...It said that right there in the readme.

Thanks for your help HAY GUYS (you too Gnumsploitz). This is definitely a sick little program you got here.

def. have to purchase if the price is right.

Thanks again
05-25-2010 , 03:00 AM
I just got a USB gamepad and want to use this, or something like this, because I can't get AHK to install on either of my computers. Would this possibly be compatible with another gamepad besides the 360 controller? Is there another program for me?
05-25-2010 , 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by skater3598
I just got a USB gamepad and want to use this, or something like this, because I can't get AHK to install on either of my computers. Would this possibly be compatible with another gamepad besides the 360 controller? Is there another program for me?
Read the thread. There's a 360 controller emulator that works very well with hjalper and my logitech wireless rumblepad. I think it should prob work with most gamepads. You can PM me if you have probs setting it up I dont' mind helping.
05-25-2010 , 03:30 AM
perhaps you could include a way to move your bets up and down by increments smaller than a small blind.
05-25-2010 , 03:56 AM
Going to pick up a 360 controller in the morning and give this beta some lovin'. Very intrigued
05-25-2010 , 04:29 AM
I bought a XBOX 360 controller today just to try this out. This is outstanding software. This runs with zero lag and doesn't hog resources...totally the opposite of my experience with TN. Completely smooth operation and no nag or annoyance boxes. This software is reason alone to play on Stars if you aren't already. I'll probably pay whatever you end up charging.

It does lack some features that TN does, most notably auto-regging, but I find the one-click reg button and the arrow up/down lobby controls to be sufficient at least for my purposes.

I especially appreciate how lean this program is and how clean the GUI is.

Awesome job.
05-25-2010 , 04:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eeeark1
perhaps you could include a way to move your bets up and down by increments smaller than a small blind.
Is this really that important? I'd prefer this program to remain simple and uncluttered as it is. Trying to be too many things to too many people is where these programs go off the deep end for me personally. Then again I am old and befuddled.
05-25-2010 , 04:46 AM
whats really missing is a set table aside hotkey like in tableninja
its really nice to got finaltables on a other stack

and yeah sng opener definitely is missing for guys who are playin different kind of games at once
05-25-2010 , 05:17 AM
would be really nice if focus stealing could be fixed for when you get moved between tables.... (it's non trivial, but not overly hard to code considering the code you should already have)
05-25-2010 , 05:48 AM
wtf table move still steals focus?
thats the main issue if u are 30+ tabling
05-25-2010 , 06:22 AM
I've read through this whole thread and am interested in how this product develops fully,but can someone explain what this does that TN doesn't other than the focus stealing which is tilting and less lag ?? Think I'm missing something
05-25-2010 , 09:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eeeark1
Hjalper not working for me.

I get an error message that says:

"Unhandled exception has occurred in your application"..."The type initializer for (strange sybols) threw an exception."

I can click deatails which gives me some long complex explanation (?)
or continue which will let me see the preferences window. though hjalper still doesn't work
or quit which of course ends the program.

any help would be appreciated.

IM getting this same exact problem. I'm using Windows XP, was this your problem? Ive installed framework 3.5
05-25-2010 , 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by JechtSphere
You're using a 360 controller it sounds? Are you making sure to hold the left shoulder when registering?
Yeah 360 controller, and i tried using left shoulder plus button then changed it to start button alone didn't work. Then tried back button and didnt work. Everything else works just no response for registering.
05-25-2010 , 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by lordTasse
whats really missing is a set table aside hotkey like in tableninja
its really nice to got finaltables on a other stack

and yeah sng opener definitely is missing for guys who are playin different kind of games at once
You'll see both of these features in a future build. HG, Jecht, and I have discussed it (and some other new stuff in the works) in IRC at length. We're constantly brainstorming on how to make Hjälper a better product. If you're happy now, even more exciting things are on the way, without making the software bloated or laggy.

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Originally Posted by torx
would be really nice if focus stealing could be fixed for when you get moved between tables.... (it's non trivial, but not overly hard to code considering the code you should already have)
Quote:
Originally Posted by lordTasse
wtf table move still steals focus?
thats the main issue if u are 30+ tabling
I disagree that it's the main issue, but to be clear, we're talking about when you're moved to a different table while playing in a MTT. It's certainly non-trivial, but it's absolutely being developed. In fact, HG was testing this the night before he released the public beta. (Playing with code and mass tabling low buyin MTTSNGS.) I nagged him and said, "Hey man, get the EULA going and the public beta released, then work on that one." -- and he agreed. Once it's working 100%, I'm sure it'll be included in Focus Fixer.

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Originally Posted by mondatoo
I've read through this whole thread and am interested in how this product develops fully,but can someone explain what this does that TN doesn't other than the focus stealing which is tilting and less lag ?? Think I'm missing something
I thought vandweller's post was a very nice compliment, and is exactly what HG has been striving to achieve.

This is quoted from the hjalper.com Home and About pages:
"Our software has been designed to maximize speed and reliability while using the lowest possible amount of resources."

"[HAY GUYS] created these tools for his own 30+ tabling needs with the intention to control all aspects of a SNG session from a gamepad. ...With his desire for raw speed and smoothness, he didn’t want to go the AHK route (and wasn’t entirely satisfied with anything on the online poker software market at the time) so he decided to make something that did exactly what he wanted."

I'm not going to nitpick or attack other software available. You can draw your own conclusions while testing.

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Originally Posted by Any2willdo
IM getting this same exact problem. I'm using Windows XP, was this your problem? Ive installed framework 3.5
Have you also installed the XNA framework, Any2willdo?
05-25-2010 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Gnumsploitz
I disagree that it's the main issue, but to be clear, we're talking about when you're moved to a different table while playing in a MTT. It's certainly non-trivial, but it's absolutely being developed. In fact, HG was testing this the night before he released the public beta. (Playing with code and mass tabling low buyin MTTSNGS.) I nagged him and said, "Hey man, get the EULA going and the public beta released, then work on that one." -- and he agreed. Once it's working 100%, I'm sure it'll be included in Focus Fixer.
ok that sounds good that its being developed
but its really a big big issue for everyone who plays something other than one table sngs
im playin 45 entrants sngs and got on average 40tables open and im gettin table move popups like every 15 seconds and then i need to switch back to the active table with the circle to first in line hotkey in tableninja
without ninja it would be really unplayable because its way to hard to find that table again in time
05-25-2010 , 11:02 AM
In the meantime, there's a 'go to urgent table' hotkey built right into Hjälper, should you need to get back to that table requiring action.

05-25-2010 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by vandweller
Then again I am old and befuddled.
I wonder if we can get it working with an NES controller?

05-25-2010 , 12:59 PM
LOL what about an Atari joystick? As I recall, didn't Atari come with two different controllers? You had a joystick and another one and you had to switch them out based on what game you were playing?
05-25-2010 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Sly Caveat
LOL what about an Atari joystick? As I recall, didn't Atari come with two different controllers? You had a joystick and another one and you had to switch them out based on what game you were playing?
That's certainly more my speed.

the Xbox has too many damn buttons.

What the hell is a shoulder button?
05-25-2010 , 01:48 PM
This software makes table ninjas BB hud eff up which is pretty gay.Over all though I really like it and am looking forward to seeing where this will go.The exact problem I am having is say I have 16BBs on one table and 30BBs on the other some times they over lap and it makes the amount BBs unreadable.
05-25-2010 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Gnumsploitz
...With his desire for raw speed and smoothness, he didn’t want to go the AHK route
I hate this line more and more every time I read it.
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I'm not going to nitpick or attack other software available.
because this is exactly what it sounds like to me. "oh AHK is super-slow no matter what it's doing, this program will be by default much faster simply because it's not using that terrible slow language!". It's imo needless bashing of many poker software creators.

Now I dunno HG may well be an expert AHK coder (note I am not - I'm meaning the people on ahk forums who continually post new amazing things), but I suspect that phrase should read more like : "With his desire for raw speed and smoothness, he wanted to use a language he knew well". The prime reason for using any language really.
05-25-2010 , 04:36 PM
_dave_: have you tried Hjalper yourself? Just wondering your opinion on it, not agreeing/disagreeing with anything you said above. I'd just like to see what you think.
05-25-2010 , 05:22 PM
not yet, although I most certainly will. it looks and sounds impressive. waiting support of other controllers since I don't fancy messing with the emulator with "official" support coming, not even sure I can drive that from my many-buttoned mouse).
05-25-2010 , 08:23 PM
I can't get over how fast the debustifier works. If I am all in with another similar sized stack at the end of a tourney, I have to look and see who has who covered so I will know who won the hand if the tourney ends. The window closes instantaneously.

      
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