I play 25-30 tables, but I don't have a Xbox controller. I'd be willing to test this.

Lol at that video. Focus steal + hypers = insanity.

Haha. Camtasia was causing a little delay on my actions so it caused me to start timing out all over the place. It's extremely tilting though.

yep.... really starting to think that the focus fixer would almost be worth releasing on its own, especially if it handles the registering without focus steal as well.

i just tilted very badly by watchin that video..

The focus fix is one small, albeit important, feature of an array of tools. Focus fix alone doesn't improve the entire experience itself. The original goal, as I understood it from HG, was to improve his own personal playing experience as to limit annoyances that can lead to frustration and tilt. By limiting his exposure to those annoyances he was in fact giving himself an edge. Others would have to deal with the annoyances. The annoyances that are in place for more casual players to stay informed about what's going on. Those of us multitabling aren't looking to be informed over and over about what we're playing. We'd love it if we could just play the game were there to play, continually how we see fit, without being disturbed by annoying, unavoidable issues.

I also know I personally felt I ran the risk of incurring injuries if I continued to play using ABC computer peripherals. Problems that really could affect my earning potential in online poker.

Busted tables being instantly removed from existence, no message boxes detailing tournament information, instant one-click registrations and unregistrations, the option to control all play from a 360 controller to minimize wrist movement, an active count of opened tables, the ability to be sat back in if you do happen to time out after your timebank has already been clicked when it comes up and you actually end up using it all. It's a poker suite aimed at improving the poker playing experience, period. It's not a move to fix one oversight that exists. Its creation was thanks to HG being motivated at making a go of grinding for a living, aimed at improving the playing experience itself and allow HG to capitalize on what he loved making money at.

When Gnum and I pushed HG to go public with this product he was reluctant and was more concerned with working on his game because:

May 07 20:14:48 <HAY_GUYS> i still want to grind some
May 07 20:14:50 <HAY_GUYS> i like it
May 07 20:14:52 <HAY_GUYS> i want to be a grinder
May 07 20:14:53 <HAY_GUYS>

From a grinder, for the grinders. What more can I say? Nearly 39,000 games completed by HG since he created it. Gnumsploitz has played around 12,000 since being given the wares. Myself, I've played just over 29,000 games since being gifted with this. Before that, I had played 20,000 games lifetime at Stars. Less than a year after receiving this item, I've more than doubled my number of games played on Stars. ****'s been tested. I make my bread at this game.

If you ever feel like developing this for FTP I'll beta test in a heart beat!

If you need more testers I have some extra controllers around and am free all weekend

indeed
to a lot of people, I'd bet this is exacly a fix of one oversight that has so far been impossible to remedy - the focus stealing.

Everything else you point out has been dealt with numerous times for what is probably years now, in both paid and free versions, to varying degrees of satisfaction I'm sure. I can imagine going from only stars with a 3 button mouse, to a full on suite is an incredibly liberating experience - but for many, I'm sure they're thinking "yeah wow another popup blocker / hotkey app. omfg release the previously unseen and hugely beneficial focus fix to the masses already!".

Now from what has been said it seems HG halper does popup blocking / hotkeying better then others, which if true is pretty awesome and I'm sure will be valuable to some (those whose computers are too slow / laggy to keep up with 30 or whatever tables) - but for most in this forum, it really is only the focus fix that is the unique selling point / object of desire.

Well that's fine, I'm glad HG can already please a lot of people so easily.

You're exactly right, most of the things have been done before to varying degrees of efficiency and effectiveness, both paid and free. I was on that tip myself when I touched on it in my first post in this thread:


Hopefully they will be excited enough about the no focus steal so they can have the opportunity to experience the entire suite as a whole and develop their own opinions about how great the rest of the features are.

I know one thing, I'm glad we're not still stuck in the days of bulky MP3 players simply because somebody else had already done something similar. What world would it be if everyone always settled for so far less than the best?

Yeah sorry it didn't quite come out right. I was just trying to say I can see why people are getting impatient and posting about wanting the focus steal fixer as a standalone. for all I know that's not possible anyhow (obv. I have no idea how to elegantly fix focus stealing issues myself).

I've been using Hjälper for a quite a while and it's definitly a product that has made my sng multitabling a lot more smoother and less stressful. Every one of HG's tools are on their own better than any other similar scripts out there. Of course the no focus steal is the killer app, but the other tools shouln't go unnoticed.

As Gnum said, up until now this has been multitabling's best kept secret.

[QUOTE=HAY GUYS;19029752]Load up 33, you weenie! IMO Hjälper with a controller should allow any competent multitabler switching from another laggy setup to increase his number of tables by 25% with minimal impact on ROI. (Jecht disagrees with me on this...we need more data points!)

bias?: i've known HAY_GUYS through irc for quite awhile.

as someone who 16-21 tabled before with no scripts or software of any kind, i've been 25-30 tabling mtts while beta-testing and i'm wondering how i ever played poker without this before. it's amazing how much simpler it makes multitabling. i'd defintely say a 25% increase in tables is an underestimate. i felt a little pressed 21 tabling before, but 30 in a pile with hjalper has been almost lazy. sorry to dicktease all of you, but when the beta period is over and he finally gets this made public, anyone who doesn't have it must be some sort of masochist.

This software is great but I'm gonna be straight up w/ everyone; I'm not quite sure that I get the total lovefest that's going on ITT.

With the exception of the focus steal solution, which don't get me wrong is a HUGE help and what really sets this software apart, halper doesn't really do much that TN hasn't already been doing for some time. TN of course doesn't natively support joysticks, but you can use any 3rd party joypad mapping software and get it to work very smoothly.

That said, unless TN gets the focus steal solution right I'm almost certainly going to have to buy a license for this just for that. It works that well.

I tile, so the tables still steal focus, but all it generally does is mess me up when I'm trying to take a note or chat. Can someone summarize the benefits for tilers?

(HAY, I plan to beta test next week, I had some AHK changes to make and test this weekend, I didn't want to try to make money and test both of those at the same time)

Hey HAY_Guys

i would like to beta test ?? let me know ..

ETA on public beta ?

omg i want :

I finally just fixed the bug I've been chasing all day. I'm aiming for public release within the next 24 hours. Just have to make sure I didn't break anything else, add an About box, and put together an EULA to cover my ass.

The readme is really good and clear fwiw I know thats not a feature that many people will address but its the little things that make good software

Any idea what your pricing is gonna be? It would tho be sick if youre planning on releasing it for free..

keep dreaming son

Was meant more like a joke.. That's why i added the "Any idea on the pricing?" part..

Hi, you may know me from the HAY GUYS PokerStars Software Interest Thread started by Gnum a couple weeks back.

I'm very pleased to announce that I have just released the first public beta! It's available for download at hjälper.com, which has also just gone live. Protip: the included ReadMe.txt has important information worth reading!

For help and bug reports, please use our support forum and I will also monitor this thread.

Please be aware that this is a beta release, it is not a finished product, it is not bug free, and that you would be foolish to load up a stack of 40+ $60s without having first tested it and familiarized yourself with it at microstakes.

There are a few known issues that are listed in the ReadMe. They are annoyances, not show stoppers. Also note that this release only supports an Xbox 360 controller for an input device. All of the other features will work without the controller.

Now that I've released this, my top priority is adding support for keyboard and mouse input. When that is added, everyone will be able to get in on the fun! I won't promise a hard release date for those features, but I really think I should be able to have that by mid-week.

Please post your feedback and trip reports as I'm very excited to read about them.

Beta has gone public with a new thread!