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Originally Posted by Sparkyyy
But that is impossible to do because the decision vary on the board, on his counter actions, ex: raise etc. The tree would end up having like 500 branches on the tree.
For instance with the Q8o hand I wanted to know how profitable is it to barrel a second pair for instance on a draw heavy board.
I misunderstood your question (I thought you meant the EV of an entire strategy, starting from the first decision in a hand).
If you're trying to figure out the EV of the decision to double-barrel, then just look at the EV of the decision where you're making the first barrel. After all, thát is where you're making the decision to double-barrel. In this case it's $2.62, which is very profitable. You're not only winning the entire $2.5 pot, but you're also enticing villain to put in 0.12 more.
Whenever you're wondering which node to look at, just ask yourself, "at what node am I making the decision that I'm trying to evaluate?".
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Originally Posted by Sparkyyy
And what is this EV thing here it clearly does not correspond with USD since both BTN and BB are +EV? We can't be both making money right
Actually, at any decision point the EV of you and villain will add up to exactly the pot (provided rake is 0%). For example, on the turn, you'll notice that 4.74+1.46=6.2, which is exactly the pot at BB's decision. This is because thát is what the players are fighting over. Who gets which share of the pot? As a result, the EVs of the players will usually be greater than 0.
The exact math gets a bit more complex when multiple branches are involved. In that case you'd need to do some work in order to get the numbers to add up to the size of the pot. For example, for the decision on the flop where button either raises, calls or folds, there's 3 possible outcomes for BB, which you need to consider according to their weight. In 2.43% of the cases BB folds and wins $0. In 56.7% of the cases BB will get into a 4.74 spot and in 40.9% of the cases button folds and BB wins the 4.35 pot. That makes for a weighed total of 2.43%*0+56.7%*4.74+40.9%*4.35=4.47. And since button's ev is -0.12 that makes the total 4.47-0.12=$4.35, which is ... the pot.
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Originally Posted by Sparkyyy
I mean I am sorry but I just don't understand, I tried watching your instruction videos but they are more about explaining what each feature does.
I'll be making a whole bunch of small vids this month and next month. The ones this month will be about scripting and unexploitable shoving. The ones next month will deal with all other aspects.
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Originally Posted by Sparkyyy
Why there can not be a feature telling me how much I am making ignoring preflop.This way I have no idea whether this move is better than some other. I am just adding up the EV of a flop/turn/river decision and then deciding upon whatever is higher
That's just the EV field under the decision node. You need to look at that óne decision where you're deciding to double-barrel. That's the EV you should be looking at. In this case it's $2.62.
PS: Fwiw, I've just looked over your tree and it looks great to me. At the turn, after villain raises to 8.5 you might want to include a call in case you have >=2p; and at the river, villain míght bluff if he holds a high-card (but heck, I don't know villain). But the tree is perfectly legit.
Last edited by scylla; 07-10-2012 at 01:48 PM.