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11-24-2024 , 03:04 AM

#14451

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,491

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Originally Posted by silentshowdown

Hi there,
Can anyone give guidance regarding which version to use?

It's probably best to use the beta, v172.
The beta contains several new features, while not having any known issues.
It will probably be made the alpha in the coming week.

Last edited by scylla; 11-24-2024 at 03:11 AM.

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11-24-2024 , 08:04 AM

#14452

Mates.

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 263

Scy can implement how to play Group of filters hands besides to a range complete or specific combo?

Like here, im apply filter how to play set in several runouts, i know is somewhat tricky, but i think it can be done! and will be so usefull to add.. thanks!

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11-24-2024 , 05:23 PM

#14453

scylla

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,491

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mates.

Scy can implement how to play Group of filters hands besides to a range complete or specific combo?
Like here, im apply filter how to play set in several runouts, i know is somewhat tricky, but i think it can be done! and will be so usefull to add.. thanks!

This isn't really possible, given that different runouts will have different sets of statistics.
For example, if the river pairs the board, then a set isn't possible.
And if the river creates a 4flush or some variation of 4straight, then having a set is significantly less important.
So, we can consider adding it, but this is a feature with limited application.

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11-24-2024 , 07:31 PM

#14454

Mates.

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 263

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Originally Posted by scylla

Limit application? this is far from true. Set is one of group of hand example....

Imagine i want to look how to play Fds on all turns with no complete Fd, or how to play Fds on turn when complete (for exame AsXx nut Fd).. this is possible with this addon, or now how to play Flushes on Flush turn card.

you can take the group of hands in future street. For example on the turn brings the A on J62, now TP is A, and mid pair Jx. Or turn when complete flush, you can have Flushdraw now with one card.

on the Set example, now will be a fullhouse. If you choice Set stat, maybe yo "NaN" i mean, no data result for that particular hand because no exist.

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11-25-2024 , 03:12 AM

#14455

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,491

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mates.

Limit application? this is far from true. Set is one of group of hand example....
Imagine i want to look how to play Fds on all turns with no complete Fd, or how to play Fds on turn when complete (for exame AsXx nut Fd).. this is possible with this addon, or now how to play Flushes on Flush turn card.
you can take the group of hands in future street. For example on the turn brings the A on J62, now TP is A, and mid pair Jx. Or turn when complete flush, you can have Flushdraw now with one card.
on the Set example, now will be a fullhouse. If you choice Set stat, maybe yo "NaN" i mean, no data result for that particular hand because no exist.

We can consider it, although we do try to be careful around features that sometimes work (with restrictions), and sometimes don't work at all.
Such features tend to be very difficult to support, and require a deep understanding on the part of the user.

Last edited by scylla; 11-25-2024 at 03:30 AM.

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11-27-2024 , 03:02 PM

#14456

Yellow

stranger

Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 13

Hello,

why is there always a big difference in database size between "extensive storage" and reality?
Example: extensive storage indicates 97gB.
And I have a 26gB database

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11-28-2024 , 03:10 AM

#14457

scylla

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,491

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Originally Posted by Yellow

Hello,
why is there always a big difference in database size between "extensive storage" and reality?
Example: extensive storage indicates 97gB.
And I have a 26gB database

I'll make a note to check whether the size estimation needs to be adjusted.
We do try to overestimate, as opposed to underestimate, but a factor of 3x seems a bit on the high end.

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11-29-2024 , 05:46 AM

#14458

relite

stranger

Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 12

Scylla, i found Incentives feauture really usefull , Even though i can't understand units that it meassure

But once i make some Inc to river - GTO+ makes ajustments OTT.
an example - 3b bvb , flop xx , turn X-B-C river X-B125 --- i found a proper number for Inc with "the brute force method"

to get a folding freq for OOP that i've desired
This Inc applies to all river - thats great. But how can i lock OOP strategy for all turns ? I mean i dont want to bring any changes to this turn "X" node - just to keep it from gto solution

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11-29-2024 , 03:52 PM

#14459

scylla

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,491

Quote:

Originally Posted by relite

Scylla, i found Incentives feauture really usefull , Even though i can't understand units that it meassure

But once i make some Inc to river - GTO+ makes ajustments OTT.
an example - 3b bvb , flop xx , turn X-B-C river X-B125 --- i found a proper number for Inc with "the brute force method"

The unit of incentive is the same unit that you used for stack and pot (so, in most cases USD or BB).
As for forcing the entire turn strategy to remain locked, this is currently not possible, but we can consider it for future releases.

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12-02-2024 , 08:23 AM

#14460

ajakuz

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 26

When I try to select a single combo in node locked mode, sometimes two combos are selected. Here is an example.

If I click on Qs9s, only that row is selected. However, if I click on Qh9h, both Qh9h and Qc9c are selected as shown here.

This behavior is intermittent but not uncommon. I'm running version 1.7.2 on Parallels on a Mac.

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12-02-2024 , 09:21 AM

#14461

scylla

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,491

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajakuz

When I try to select a single combo in node locked mode, sometimes two combos are selected. Here is an example.

If I click on Qs9s, only that row is selected. However, if I click on Qh9h, both Qh9h and Qc9c are selected as shown here.

This behavior is intermittent but not uncommon. I'm running version 1.7.2 on Parallels on a Mac.

The flop is Qd7d4s.
As a result, h and c are the same suit on this board.
We take advantage of this suit symmetry by bucketing all c and h hands together.
By doing so, we achieve a speedup of almost 2x.
The bucketing can however only be applied if we do it consistently, meaning that it will also apply to the editor.
So, this "linking" of Qh9h and Qc9c is intentional, and means that the solver runs almost 2x faster.

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12-03-2024 , 07:51 AM

#14462

ajakuz

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 26

OK thanks for the explanation

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12-06-2024 , 01:43 PM

#14463

tommyaces

newbie

Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 20

Scylla,

It would be helpful in the main window when we select "bet" or "check" to be able to right click and freeze selected hands just like in "entire decision" mode. It is possible to lock with F9 but it does not lock just one action. Currently I need to hold down mouse over.

Also, when in "bet" or "check" mode when I mouse over a combo it displays stats for both actions.

Switching from "entire decision" to "bet" or "check" also switches from splitting vertical to horizontal.

Thanks for your continued patience.

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12-06-2024 , 03:46 PM

#14464

scylla

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,491

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Originally Posted by tommyaces

Ok, I'll make a note of this, and we'll see if we can create some additional options here.

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Originally Posted by tommyaces

Also, when in "bet" or "check" mode when I mouse over a combo it displays stats for both actions.

This is intentional.
Whether to display the decision or the action is more of a stylistic choice (currently we display which fraction of the combo in the entire decision goes to the action).
When designing the interface, we decided to go with the former.

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Originally Posted by tommyaces

Switching from "entire decision" to "bet" or "check" also switches from splitting vertical to horizontal.

If I understand you correctly, then this was recently fixed.
Can you try upgrading to v174?

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12-07-2024 , 12:38 PM

#14465

tommyaces

newbie

Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 20

Ver 1.74 display still switching from horizontal split in entire decision mode and vertical in bet or check mode. NBD

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12-07-2024 , 02:24 PM

#14466

scylla

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,491

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommyaces

Ver 1.74 display still switching from horizontal split in entire decision mode and vertical in bet or check mode. NBD

I'm probably looking at a different part of the interface.
Can you include a screenshot?

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Yesterday , 10:43 PM

#14467

tommyaces

newbie

Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 20

Vertical split

Horizontal Split

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Today , 03:10 AM

#14468

scylla

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,491

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommyaces

Vertical split

Horizontal Split

Actually they have the same split.
For example, look at 33 in both screenshots.
It's easier to see if you move to a more heavily weighted decision.

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Today , 01:45 PM

#14469

tommyaces

newbie

Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 20

I was just noting that the splits are displayed differently in both views the first the cells split horizontal and the second cells are displayed vertical. Its NBD but strange when you toggle back and forth to compare