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edit: Would B.5 = 50NL when my starting stacks are set to 50NL? So, If I wanted to study 200BB deep spots, I'd change the starting stacks to 100.00 and leave B.5 in place?

Yes, for a 0.50 blind, enter B.5.
And for 200bb spots, the stacks would need to be 100.

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11-10-2023 , 06:00 PM

#13877

TheStackHunter

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Join Date: Oct 2023 Posts: 202

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Originally Posted by scylla

Yes, for a 0.50 blind, enter B.5.
And for 200bb spots, the stacks would need to be 100.

Ah, of course. 200x.5 = 100. Thank you

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11-10-2023 , 06:01 PM

#13878

TheStackHunter

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Join Date: Oct 2023 Posts: 202

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Originally Posted by scylla

Ok, we'll see what we can do here for future releases.

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11-15-2023 , 06:27 AM

#13879

Dejavudu666

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 407

Not sure whether im remedial but has Scyla changed the nodelock feature? can't get a river lock to "stick" (trying to lock TP just Crawling but every time i go to parent node and take the action it's locked against the nodelock is no longer active? Quick nodelock tutorial? : ) (Not used GTO+ in about 2 years)

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11-15-2023 , 12:49 PM

#13880

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,242

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Originally Posted by Dejavudu666

I have just checked, and it seems to work for me.
Can you perhaps contact support with a savefile, and possibly some screenshots?
If you need instructions for locking+editing solutions, then go here: https://youtu.be/zVkp3dgBO_k?t=287

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11-15-2023 , 03:12 PM

#13881

Mates.

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 203

probably he just have the "Pure Strategy" look.

Nodelock doesnt work in that state

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11-15-2023 , 05:53 PM

#13882

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,242

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Originally Posted by Mates.

probably he just have the "Pure Strategy" look.

Nodelock doesnt work in that state

Are you referring to the mode in the screenshot below?
Node locking seems to work for me when using that setting.

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11-15-2023 , 05:56 PM

#13883

Mates.

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 203

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Originally Posted by scylla

Are you referring to the mode in the screenshot below?
Node locking seems to work for me when using that setting.

Not when you "drag and paint" the filter group.

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11-16-2023 , 03:39 AM

#13884

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,242

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Originally Posted by Mates.

Not when you "drag and paint" the filter group.

That's indeed not possible in "Pure" mode, given that this feature requires the hands being ranked by equity.

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11-18-2023 , 03:49 PM

#13885

LocusM

stranger

Join Date: Apr 2023 Posts: 5

Hello Scylla!
Is it possible to merge certain actions for all solves in a database?
I have solved a large subset of trees with the options b33/x on the flop for my database. I want to use those files for studying defending the flop in that spot.

However, I also want to study how to play turns after rangebetting b33 and defending versus the rangebet. Is there a way to merge b33 and x into b33 for the entire database and not just a single sim? I don't want to have to do this for every single tree separately.

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11-18-2023 , 04:47 PM

#13886

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,242

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Originally Posted by LocusM

I think for this you should take a single tree, and use the editor (top pic) to delete the "Check" action.
After that, rebuild the database from the edited tree.

If you need instructions on using the tree editor, then go here: https://youtu.be/yzROoc5iBec?t=861

To rebuild a database, just click on "Rebuild database".
Or, click on "Clear database" and build the database again from the edited tree.

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11-18-2023 , 08:58 PM

#13887

LocusM

stranger

Join Date: Apr 2023 Posts: 5

Thanks for the response. When I do this though, the trees in the database are unsolved again. If I instead merge actions in the solve, the tree remains solved and changes according to my adjustment.

Is there a way to do this for the entire database. Also am I correct in assuming that the new response to a strategy where x and b33 are merged into b33 is the maximum exploit strategy versus the rangebet or would I have to rerun the sims to arrive at that?

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11-19-2023 , 07:10 AM

#13888

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,242

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Originally Posted by LocusM

Thanks for the response. When I do this though, the trees in the database are unsolved again. If I instead merge actions in the solve, the tree remains solved and changes according to my adjustment.
Is there a way to do this for the entire database. Also am I correct in assuming that the new response to a strategy where x and b33 are merged into b33 is the maximum exploit strategy versus the rangebet or would I have to rerun the sims to arrive at that?

Actually, merging the two actions should also mark the tree as being unsolved.
Once the decision is edited, and different ranges pass through it, a new solve is required to figure out the new play with the given restrictions.

Last edited by scylla; 11-19-2023 at 07:22 AM.

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11-19-2023 , 11:35 AM

#13889

TheStackHunter

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Join Date: Oct 2023 Posts: 202

Is there a flopzillapro/gto+ discord?

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11-19-2023 , 12:30 PM

#13890

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,242

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Originally Posted by TheStackHunter

Is there a flopzillapro/gto+ discord?

We don't offer discord.
For support, please use the "Contact" section on our website.
Or post a message here, provided that it's suitable for public viewing.

Last edited by scylla; 11-19-2023 at 12:37 PM.

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11-19-2023 , 12:52 PM

#13891

TheStackHunter

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Join Date: Oct 2023 Posts: 202

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Originally Posted by scylla

We don't offer discord.
For support, please use the "Contact" section on our website.
Or post a message here, provided that it's suitable for public viewing.

I don't think I'll be needing to post anything that's NSFW

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11-20-2023 , 09:49 AM

#13892

ArrantGod

newbie

Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 34

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Originally Posted by Dejavudu666

What do you mean by locked against?

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11-20-2023 , 12:24 PM

#13893

Mates.

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 203

Scy, thanks for the update.
One thing that cant do with the trainer:

i want to play OOP in the next node : B25-Call / X.

Here im only select Turn Cbet or not, but not Turn when we check.

I hope you understand what I'm saying

https://gyazo.com/28f909acc8355dce146e09999ede53c2

Btw, thank you and waiting for nodelock upt, thanks again

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11-20-2023 , 01:25 PM

#13894

TPLancaster

stranger

Join Date: Oct 2020 Posts: 8

Awesome update. Thanks Scylla!

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11-20-2023 , 01:29 PM

#13895

TPLancaster

stranger

Join Date: Oct 2020 Posts: 8

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Originally Posted by Mates.

You have Hero is IP checked, change to OOP?

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11-20-2023 , 04:34 PM

#13896

Mates.

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 203

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Originally Posted by TPLancaster

You have Hero is IP checked, change to OOP?

i cant select OOP player.. so yes. i try that

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11-20-2023 , 04:43 PM

#13897

Mates.

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 203

Other thing.

The ideal functioning of the trainer would be to drill action in DB Mode, not only 1 board.
Unfortunately we still have the limitation of playing a single flop if we decide an action on the turn or river.

I think the ideal would be to emulate what pio does with syntax:

bet,call,check

(the node would start turning cbet opportunity on any board within the database).

Or
bet,call,check,check
(Start on the river probe node)

Also, you can select play IP or OOP (River probe Op, or facing X or probe oportunity)

The way GTO+ is proposed, we are still "condemned" to study just 1 spot.

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11-20-2023 , 05:11 PM

#13898

TheStackHunter

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2023 Posts: 202

Are we auto prompted for updates when we open flopzillapro and/or gto+?

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11-20-2023 , 05:51 PM

#13899

mug3n

veteran

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,746

This is probably a simple question... but what IS the EV value that is expressed in GTO+? Tried looking for answers but can't seem to find what the relation of the EV # is to equity and the pot size.

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11-20-2023 , 05:53 PM

#13900

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,242

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Originally Posted by Mates.

Scy, thanks for the update.
One thing that cant do with the trainer:
i want to play OOP in the next node : B25-Call / X.
Here im only select Turn Cbet or not, but not Turn when we check.
I hope you understand what I'm saying
https://gyazo.com/28f909acc8355dce146e09999ede53c2
Btw, thank you and waiting for nodelock upt, thanks again

You can just navigate to the decision that you want to drill, and select "Drill the current decision".

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